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amu723

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Hi,

My problem is I haven't seen much improvement. I've been working out for about a month.

Maybe my problem is that I workout every single day
and I work the same muscle groups.

Is working out every day bad for muscle building?

Any advice on routines would be helpful.

I'm an ectomorph... skinny.. thin bones, etc..

Andy
 
Ahem...

Viewing the forums basically everyday, I got the idea on what you're doing wrong so far (correct me if I'm wrong).
What you need to do is let your muscles rest. You can't kill the poor bastards. Get on a good diet, around 5+ meals a day containing lots of protein,carbo,and calorie intake. Workout for no more than an hour. Make sure you drink plenty of water each day, a gallon or so, your muscles will need them. Lift heavy weights with reps around 6-10 or so. I am too in the same situation. I'm a skinny bastard that started at 143 standing at 5'11. I'm now 151 after two months of working out, I'm still skinny, but I'm toned. Not the best advice given, but this is what I have been reading on the boards everyday.
 
BadBoy: your pretty much right.

amu723: whoa dude. you said it your self
"Maybe my problem is that I workout every single day
and I work the same muscle groups. "

You have to rest the muscles to let them grow.
REMEMBER: you dont grow in the gym. you grow resting, eating and in bed.

I train the same muscles 5 times a week......but thats a different type of training......not for building muscle. but i wont go into that here.

My advice. Stick to freeweight compound exercises, like bench press, squats, chin ups. maybe even some bicep curls and additional exercises like that.

Train four times a week.
monday:upper body
tuesday off
wednesday:lower body
thursday off
friday: upper body
saturday off
sunday off

Do excercises for 3-4 sets of 12. eat like a mofo

ANYONE ELSE FOR BEGINNER ROUTINES?????
 
amu723 said:
Hi,

My problem is I haven't seen much improvement. I've been working out for about a month.

Maybe my problem is that I workout every single day
and I work the same muscle groups.

Is working out every day bad for muscle building?

Any advice on routines would be helpful.

I'm an ectomorph... skinny.. thin bones, etc..

Andy
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I hope youre joking cause this will never work, this way you will be overtrained and instead of getting bigger you will get smaller, you do need to rest workout each muscle group max 2 times per week, and as the guys before me said eat, you need alot of protein and carbs to build muscle. Good Luck :angel:
 
maxellyz:
king kamali looks the same colour as a fire truck :mad: acctually the same colour as the that angry face.
 
Welcome to a fellow ectomorph,

after 1 month you can hardly expect any significant muscle growth.
Are you getting stronger? That should be your number one concern, as well as eating.

hardgainer (!)
 
Remember, your muscles do not grow while you are in the gym training. Your muscles grow while you are at home resting, eating, sleeping -- when you are givening them what they need to rebuild themselves. Training is a very small part of this sport -- I feel diet and rest are more important than the actually training part. Training is simply tearing down the muscle -- everything else helping that muscle recover and come back stronger.
 
Three things here.
#1 If you are a skinny looking to build mass, then every day is 95% certain to doom you to failure. Do a basic routine 3 days a week, emphasizing the basic exercises for at least 6 months, probably a year.
#2 The first month you should be gaining strenght, but most of the strength gain will be neuromuscular adaptation-size gains will start after this phase.
#3 Diet and rest. A lot of calories and sleep as much as you can.
 
One can easily train every day and make progress. The question is, how long will you be applying those demands? There is a difference between short- and long-term application, which has a bearing on the dose of the short- and long-term demands. What I can tolerate during a two-week blitz is much different than what I tolerate for 3 months preceding that blitz. The effect is also more profound during that time, but must be short-lived in order to avoid overtraining. Elementary theoretical/practical application of the General Adaptation Syndrome. Of course, this does not address your goals, needs, or reasoning for wanting to do so (viz., why would you want to or need to train for consecutive days?).

I started lifting about 5 months ago, and I started out as a 6'2" 135-pound weed. For the first two months of my training, I trained full-body every day, lifted big. ate bit, and slept big, and as a result gained 45 pounds of solid muscle in those two months alone, not to mention 3 inches on to my arms (which are now 16.75 inches at 16 years old). I still train every day*, many do. Jones was wrong, anaerobic system is, same as aerobic >>made<< for very frequent use. Those two are different, but not opposite.

I believe the less effort you put into your sets, the more often you can (should) work out. If you are stopping two or three reps short of failure, work out every day. If you are working to failure, tossing in some negatives after that, and puking your guts up, you might want to take a few days off between workouts.

Compare and contrast a Pavel Tsatsouline 3x per day workout to a Mike Mentzer 1x per 10 days workout. Both can probably be effective, in different ways, with different approaches.


/Deathspell Omega


* - I now train on a push-pull split, with legs being done on pull day.
 
I call bullshit on 45 pound gain.

dont care if i have offended you.

there is no need to lie here bro.
just keep it real

......................................................................

that aside, have you read pavels Power to the people?

I have wanted to purchase it for a while but didnt know if it was any good
would you recomend it?
 
Well, no offense taken. Fourty-five pounds in (just over) 2 months *is* a rather extraordinary gain. A claim that, spoken over the internet as it is, I would probably not believe myself. But I assure you, I speak the truth. And, to put it mildly, you have no idea how much I ate during those two months. Easily 5000-6000 calories per-day spread out over 7 meals*. I've also come to believe that I have good genetics for strength, as all my lifts have improved by at *least* 300-500% since then.

In any case, Pavel's "Power to the People" is good reading and the concept behind them is sound. As far as books go, I prefer Brooks D Kubik's "Dinosaur Training", but I would not hesitate to reccomend Pavel's works either.


/Deathsell Omega



* - One meal at early morning, then breakfast, meal at mid-morning, Lunch, meal at early evening, dinner, meal at late night.
 
how much improvement can you expect from a month of working out? what are you stats and what are your goals? you said you work out the same muscle groups every time. you probably aren't even sore after your workout that you can do that. perhaps you should get a book on training and get alittle more educated on how to work out.
 
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"Have you SEEN Pavel...?? He has nothing, except maybe abs...."


Well, I was actually impressed by his physique. He is lean and muscular yet not like a "fitness model" -- he looks like a warrior; function over form.
 
"Compare and contrast a Pavel Tsatsouline 3x per day workout to a Mike Mentzer 1x per 10 days workout. Both can probably be effective, in different ways, with different approaches. "

Just wanted to clarify this qoute. Mentzer recommends starting on a 1 day on-2day off routine, not a 10 day rest.
 
If you can train every day it means you don't rock you're muscles hard enough. When I have trained my legs I can barely come of a stair! Example train you're arms once a week so dam hard that the hurt two - three days. Do this for a few months and I swear you will grow and you're power will go sky high. Be sure to do enough different exercises to stimulate grow. The best system is to train one week so hard you feel you're muscles really hurt. Don't do this always. The second week you train them less harder. So you will train for example arms and legs very hard the first week and chest and back less harder and vice versa...
 
I forgot to say I am a real ectomorf myself! Believe me this is the only way for us to grow. Don't train more then 3 times a week and not longer then 1 hour! Belive me if you want to grow you have to go to you're limit. I am doing this for over 4 years and I make the same mistake for the first three years. I trained every bodypart onces a week for 2 - 3 hours a week. Seven days a week where filed! My power increased very much and my muscles became harder but they didn't grew!!!
NO WONDER!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you have any questions feel free to ask! Don't you have a foto so whey can see what you're stats are?
 
Sorry endpoint....
I have to disagree, 12 reps are to much for ectomorfs. Try do do 6 - 8 reps 4 seconds to make the contraction and 4 seconds to lower the weight. What ever you do don't let the weight win! Stay focussed and do everything in you're power to be in control of the exercise. Do the exercise the way that the trained muscle stands under continues tension! You feel the muscles burns. That's a good sign! If you have any questions feel free to ask!
 
Well, no - I don't think that the majority of the members of this board are stupid. And, in any case, I honestly don't care if you believe me or not. The muscles I gained in that period were not gained to impress any of you. Unless you have total 'hardgainer' genetics, if you eat between 5-6k calories every day (spread out over 7 balanced meals), and work your ass off in the gym, you'll grow very quickly indeed! That, coupled with typical 'beginner gains', added up to some serious gains. I worked hard and reaped the rewards, its that simple.
 
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"Well, no offense taken. Fourty-five pounds in (just over) 2 months *is* a rather extraordinary gain"

ITS NOT EXTRAORDINARY..............ITS FLIPPING PHYSICALLY IMPOSIBLE.

Guys on steroids strive and hope for 40 pound gains on a cycle.


Heres why i dont belive you: your body simply cant grow that much muscle in such a short amount of time.

A dude new to weight lifting can gain a max of about 1- 1.5 pounds A WEEK. not because of how much he trains or what he eats. its because thats the most a body can build muscle.

anymore muscle a week...........and its one of two things.

a lie.

or steroids.


you dont have to lie here bro.

I cant go into the science of it.........im not that highly educated (wait till i start my degree in exercise physiology). ill leave that to some one else.


but to sum up my statment.......
ITS NOT PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE

read this:


http://www.ironmag.com/ct_20lbs.html

I hope it clears things up
 
I agree with endpoint on the 45lb in two months assessment, I've read on this board from guys who claimed to have put on 3 inches on their arms in 10 weeks... well, it's kind of insulting the intelligence of the rest of us.

hardgainer (yeah, right)
 
DEATHSPELL , thats got to be the biggest bullshit I have ever heard!!!!!!YOU GAINED 45LBS OF SOLID MUSCLE IN 2 MONTHS, HELL IF YOU GET ON JUICE YOU SHOULD GO PRO IN HEAVYWEIGHT CLASS BY THE END OF THE YEAR:rolleyes: GIVE US A BREAK YOU FUCKING IDIOT
 
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