Ok heres my opinion based on 5 winny only cycles over the period of a few years.
Many many years ago I built my base bulk with sus, deca, dbol and tons of food. I also added a nice set of bitch tits (not gyno, just fat) .
After a few years layoff, I ran across some winny. I decided to use only that as I had a nice base size and didn't want to run the risk of adding gyno – or fat to my chest. I injected for 8 weeks.
It got me in the best shape I had ever been in,. I wasn’t trying to become huge- just better than I was. But my joints felt like they were fused. 4 months later, I decide to go at it again, and I ran the same brand, this time I drank it. Same mg daily, I didn't see the same level of gains. This could have been due to me having reached a good level with the 1st cycle, and maintaining it from there. I didn't expect to see double the results.
The next cycle, I gained a lot of strength, but was kind of slacking at that point and size wise, stayed the same. That time I injected and drank.
Skip 2 years, I find our feline friend. I had gotten very smooth, lost a lot of muscle mass, and was just not what I used to be, but guess what was back? Fat tits. So, I chew 50mg ed and I'm back in business.
I'm on my 2nd round of this product, and I'm extremely happy. I don't need to be a size monster- I already had a good base, so winny only is right for me. I respond well to it. It makes me not went to run the risk of buying and using other products. I'm not greedy.
Cliffs notes: I saw the most gains on winny while injecting, but it was my first cycle in a ling time, and I believe that I would have seen nice gains orally. Also, Paper is the best for me now, for many many reasons. Its working great.