Winstrol + Var

[Selene]

I have 100 25mg winnies, and im thinking about getting about 100 10mg var, any suggestions on dosing, and if this is an ok mix. Im a newbie so any info would be great.
Im looking for some size, definition, and mainly strength with very few side effects. Also what could i expect form this mix/cycle??

Im 6'5"/6'6"
20 yrs old
weight varies from 194 to 205 usually
lifting on and off four days a week
play basketball
not sure on body fat percentage

Thanks in advance

that is one of my favorite mixes, however you are too young and can attain your goals by proper training and diet at your age, you also do not have enough to sustain a proper cycle and have no pct.

please post your diet and training and ask for help with them as that is what will help you attain your goals

 

[mavssolaj]

well atleast some ppl help out, but i have a workout program on and off season for basketball, really dnt wanna type it all out, but it works all the groups and switches it up once in awhile three/four days a week. As for diet i really dnt have a set diet, but i try and eat moderatly healthy, salads and grilled chicken when in the school caf. subway subs light on the fats (mayo), then i have protein shakes morning and afternoon about 175 grams. I have been lifting on and off, taking creatine/protein since junior year of highschool and i have remained basically the same size/weight for the last three years. My athletism has improved but thats a given when makeing the HS to college transition, but thats about all. Its hard being a full time student, working, lifting, playing ball, and finding time to monitor everything you take in and when.

 

[jochensa]

well, good for you man.. at 20 yrs old you don't need to be having sex anyway.. tren with no extra test within 3-7 days i'm willing to wager you won't be able to get it up with a coed on your noob...

but anyway.. do what you want..[/QUOT

do some pct to balance you levels at the end (HCG, clomid, etc.) Just read up as much as you can and do it right (you might be able to slip by without the tren BTW)

And I know alot of guys on here say wait til you are older. but they dont realize that when most peeps get older they don't take gear. simply cuz there is no need for it really. you are at a critical age competing at a high level of athletics. you have a small window to acheive your goals. I say this cuz when i was playing college ball it helped me perform at the level i wanted to. I am taking gear now mostly for HRT, and to push my genetics to the limits.

 

[pound for pound]

he's looking for size and strength.

test e 500mgs for 10 weeks. run the var if you like as well.

 

[jochensa]

he's looking for size and strength.

test e 500mgs for 10 weeks. run the var if you like as well.

i hear ya on the test. but i can speak by exp. most of my linemen/linebackers would do test. the skill positions all did winny, var, and eq. i just dont think it would be appropriate for becoming more athletic. but everyone has diff views on this tho.

 

[pound for pound]

he didn't say he plays college ball. he said he plays basketball and he's in college. whatever, run tren man, knock yourself out.

 

[jochensa]

he didn't say he plays college ball. he said he plays basketball and he's in college. whatever, run tren man, knock yourself out.

oh well i did read that he had a long workout plan that i think his strength coach gave to him. and i kinda did the math. sounded like it was an organized routine not a kid who plays pick up hoops. if it just for pick up run test. either way he wants to enhance his performance, and he is asking ques, thatis a good thing in my book

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

you dont have enough gear....

I'll second that opinion.

 

[mavssolaj]

yes i do play college basketball as in for the team. Jochensa thanks for your input. I play the forward position mainly SF but sometimes PF, i would love to be 225 thats my target weight(atleast by winter/late fall), 6'6" and 225 i think i will have great strength and size but yet still maintain my athletic ability. Its more about strength than anything, but having that muscular weight is a great edge in the paint posting up. well i have my cycle down i beleive, just orderd it now i need to figure out the dosing
50mg ed winnies
200mg weekly Tren
200mg weekly T prop
should i get an anti-e / HCG ??
should i do the tren and test twice a week, or eod??

 

[jochensa]

yes i do play college basketball as in for the team. Jochensa thanks for your input. I play the forward position mainly SF but sometimes PF, i would love to be 225 thats my target weight(atleast by winter/late fall), 6'6" and 225 i think i will have great strength and size but yet still maintain my athletic ability. Its more about strength than anything, but having that muscular weight is a great edge in the paint posting up. well i have my cycle down i beleive, just orderd it now i need to figure out the dosing
50mg ed winnies
200mg weekly Tren
200mg weekly T prop
should i get an anti-e / HCG ??
should i do the tren and test twice a week, or eod??

def have an anti e/hcg on hand. which tren you have A or E will pretty much determine your cycle layout. but def run the winny at the end