Winstrol tabs vs injectables

[Nutrient-Nut]

In the past when oral Winstrol only came in 2mg tablets, most bodybuilders never consumed 25 of these on a daily basis during their cycles due to cost and inconvenience of the low 2mg tablet. Therefore, oral Winstrol never achieved much of a reputation for effectiveness and the injectable was the more popular method.

Now that oral Winstrol comes in higher mg tablets, more bodybuilders seem to be taking higher doses. It's not uncommon for someone to take 50mg oral Winstrol ED.

My question is: Why wouldn't 50mg oral Winstrol be as effective or nearly as effective as 50mg injectable Winstrol? Oral Winstrol is a C17AA and not that much is destroyed on the first pass in the liver. I'm sure that the injectable has a higher percentage of absorption, but it can't be that big of a difference.

Any opinions?

NN

 

[TxLonghorn]

The difference is that first pass. They are both equally toxic to the liver since the liver will metabolize mg per mg oral or injected. The reason injecting it works better (not a huge difference, but still probably noticeable) is that the full amount gets to run willy nilly through your body one time before your evil liver goes to work destroying as much of your precious winny as it can. The oral however goes straight into the gear-destroyer's lair, never getting the same chance that it's brother, Mr. Injectible, had.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

to be quite forthright..

first pass metabolism of 17aa drugs is negligible...

the advantage of injectable is slightly more even blood levels.. though with less igf spike..

the issue of strol is that it is very effective at decreasing SHBG, so a more even release may be more beneficial...

frquent oral dosing should alleviate and likely surpass the injectable with respect to all of the above...

though in all truth..

few see any difference between oral and injectable.

and localized growth is due to irritation and scar tissue.. there may be some slight prostaglandin type growth.. but it will be mediated by scarring which can lead to injury, loss of flexiability and decreased contractile force...

 

[Nutrient-Nut]

Thanks to the moderator's for their interesting responses!

NN

 

[RICOSUAVE]

thanks for the info on this subject very usefull and very intersting

 

[Lift Chief]

yeah i agree- good post!

 

[gethard1]

Injectable also increases the half life due to the absorbsion, and increases the mg absorbsion opposed to oral winny

 

[TxLonghorn]

I have thought I got better results with inject vs. oral. And a few others have told me the same thing. Obviously, it's just anecdotal, but I do believe injecting is preferable to oral. Actually, what I did last time I did winny was inject on MWF and on Tuesdays, Thursdays and the weekend I took tabs. I figure you get the best of both worlds, plus I hate injections.

And I need to look into that first pass being negligible. That's pretty interesting. Makes me wonder how many passes does it take...

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Makes me wonder how many passes does it take...

VERY, VERY MANY..