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I have been sandbagging on the board for a while now. I was wondering if there really is any fat loss while on winstrol. What dosages would be needed to see the loss.
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Well there really isn't any "fat loss" from any steroid. Dieting causes fat loss. Dieting perfectly while taking steroids leads to losing body fat while keeping muscle.
That being said I'm currently using winny in a cutting cycle. It causes great hardness and has helped me keep my strength up while dieting real hard. So indirectly, it has helped me to lose fat, because it is helping me keep my muscle. As far as some mechanism for burning fat on its own, no steroid does that.
I take 50mg IM EOD. But I'm real conservative. (I'm also taking a couple others, but you didn't ask about my cycle.)
So far I like winny. But I know I'm not getting leaner because of it. I'm getting leaner because of my diet.
That being said I'm currently using winny in a cutting cycle. It causes great hardness and has helped me keep my strength up while dieting real hard. So indirectly, it has helped me to lose fat, because it is helping me keep my muscle. As far as some mechanism for burning fat on its own, no steroid does that.
I take 50mg IM EOD. But I'm real conservative. (I'm also taking a couple others, but you didn't ask about my cycle.)
So far I like winny. But I know I'm not getting leaner because of it. I'm getting leaner because of my diet.
I'm taking 300mg/wk of eq, 25mg ED of Var, and 50 mg EOD of winny. Also .5mg EOD of Arimidex. Running clen for 2 weeks on 2 off.
My diet is 1600 calories a day at 50% protien 40% carb 10% fat. A lot of guys on here said my calories are to low, but I don't think so.
The strange thing is I think I'm anabolic even at 1600 damn calories. My weight loss has completely stopped. Fat loss has continued, waist still slowly shrkining, but total body weight hasan't dropped for days.
I'm half tempted to turn my calroies down even more to speed up lipolysis.
Anway, back to the topic, winstrol is good to go, but no steroid is a fat burner.
One last thing about winny, it fuckin' hurts.
My diet is 1600 calories a day at 50% protien 40% carb 10% fat. A lot of guys on here said my calories are to low, but I don't think so.
The strange thing is I think I'm anabolic even at 1600 damn calories. My weight loss has completely stopped. Fat loss has continued, waist still slowly shrkining, but total body weight hasan't dropped for days.
I'm half tempted to turn my calroies down even more to speed up lipolysis.
Anway, back to the topic, winstrol is good to go, but no steroid is a fat burner.
One last thing about winny, it fuckin' hurts.
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trigger80111
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I have heard that when you are on Winny you keep all your muscular gains, and by having a good diet you can loose fat without loosing muscle size and hardness.
jayjuicer9
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As far as my winny exp. goes strength gains are out of control. I have never had any pain from winny and i use delts and bi's. Ive used both 50mg EOD and ED. In my opinion there was a big difference, but I had great results from both. I used winny in my first cycle EOD at 50mgs by itself. Gained fifteen pounds and looked lean. Diet is truely the only way to lose fat, BUT, with that said, you look like you have lost fat after using winny even if not much fat loss has occured. Much gains can be kept with a proper PCT.
Fukkenshredded
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Winstrol burns fat directly. I have explained the mechanism several times on this board. Do a search.
In case you're just too lazy, or you aren't platinum (I'm not), the short expalantion is this:
Winstrol elevates body temperature and exhibits a uniquely effective anticatabolic effect on the body.
The elevated body temp burns the fat, the anticatabolism spares the muscle.
That's why you hear stories of minimal gains with noticable fat loss.
The effect is enhanced if used with a low dose of prop.
Anyone who has used winny at 100mg/day with prop at 50mg/day will tell you for absolute certain that this stack burns fat directly.
Of course, if you eat like shit you will not get as good of results as if you diet correctly. But as to the question of winstrol burning fat, the answer is yes.
By the way, fina also burns fat directly, although the mechanism is slightly different. The increased blood volume in the muscle cell results in an enhanced bioactivity in the organism as a whole, therefore requiring more energy to be burned. Fina is the supreme anticatabolic steroid, so again, we have a preservation of muscle along with accelerated biological activity.
Which of course equals fat loss.
Not all steroids are equal. If they were, there would be no difference in anecdotal accounts of impact, would there?
One other thing about winstrol. It stresses the liver enormously while causing problematic water redistribution internally. It's a harsh drug. Use it sparingly and for short periods of time.
In case you're just too lazy, or you aren't platinum (I'm not), the short expalantion is this:
Winstrol elevates body temperature and exhibits a uniquely effective anticatabolic effect on the body.
The elevated body temp burns the fat, the anticatabolism spares the muscle.
That's why you hear stories of minimal gains with noticable fat loss.
The effect is enhanced if used with a low dose of prop.
Anyone who has used winny at 100mg/day with prop at 50mg/day will tell you for absolute certain that this stack burns fat directly.
Of course, if you eat like shit you will not get as good of results as if you diet correctly. But as to the question of winstrol burning fat, the answer is yes.
By the way, fina also burns fat directly, although the mechanism is slightly different. The increased blood volume in the muscle cell results in an enhanced bioactivity in the organism as a whole, therefore requiring more energy to be burned. Fina is the supreme anticatabolic steroid, so again, we have a preservation of muscle along with accelerated biological activity.
Which of course equals fat loss.
Not all steroids are equal. If they were, there would be no difference in anecdotal accounts of impact, would there?
One other thing about winstrol. It stresses the liver enormously while causing problematic water redistribution internally. It's a harsh drug. Use it sparingly and for short periods of time.
Fukkenshredded said:
To some degree all steroids increase your CNS which raises body temperature. The reason winny is good at burning bodyfat is because it adds to the overall androgens(even though it's not highly androgenic it still adds up especially in higher doseages) in the blood while not being converted into estrogen and as we know the higher the androgens while also being in an environment with less estrogen than you will be able to burn bodyfat better. Since it is dht based it's also been known to be anti-estrogenic and anti-progesteronic as well which again helps the body to be able to shed fat better and reduce water retension. Lastly with all these good things happening winny as with all steroids produce a nutrient partioning effect which helps the body build more muscle instead of storing it as fat. Steroids in general also lower insulin levels which helps in this area as well. Winny since it is c-17 alpha alkylated also causes the liver to produce more igf-1 which we all know is a powerful muscle building and fat burning hormone. There are so many reasons. Ahhh and steroids in general also increase overall blood volume as a whole. Some more than others but this too adds to the increase in metabolism.
bicepts101
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i've used winny twice, i always get leaner on it
animalthug
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Thanks for all the imput. When I decide to go on, I will not expect fat loss, just solid gains, if I dump fat that will be a plus. For right now im just going to continue my research and keep my diet solid and work my ass off at the gym. 
Fukkenshredded
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AAP--
People's livers are different. For most, 34 weeks of winny without any protectants would be a bad idea. I stayed on it for months on end as well. I was fine until I added other liver stressing drugs, which nearly killed me in very short order.
It has been speculated that winstrol causes a change in the way the liver itself processes it after a certain degree of exposure.
I will admit that even 10 or 12 weeks of 50mg/day would not frighten me at all right now, but with the idea of harm reduction being the prevalent function of educating ourselves, I offer the proposal of erring on the side of caution. Eight weeks or less, no more than 100mg/day, no other liver stressing compounds, and liver protectants.
BTW, what was the impact on your physique from that particular cycle?
People's livers are different. For most, 34 weeks of winny without any protectants would be a bad idea. I stayed on it for months on end as well. I was fine until I added other liver stressing drugs, which nearly killed me in very short order.
It has been speculated that winstrol causes a change in the way the liver itself processes it after a certain degree of exposure.
I will admit that even 10 or 12 weeks of 50mg/day would not frighten me at all right now, but with the idea of harm reduction being the prevalent function of educating ourselves, I offer the proposal of erring on the side of caution. Eight weeks or less, no more than 100mg/day, no other liver stressing compounds, and liver protectants.
BTW, what was the impact on your physique from that particular cycle?
str8cubano
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Bro i was in your shoes 3 years ago. IF you do it, do it right. Minium, 50mg/day. DOn't drink. It's horrilbe on your liver. Do if for 6 -8weeks, and make sure your diet is right. I have done winstrol 2wice on regular diet, and my fat loss was minimul. You gotta do shit right. When i first used it, i was amazed at the fact that i actuallly gained 2 lbs on the scale, and while burning fat. Great for hardening and keeping muslce while cutting, but bro to me it was no miricale. I was dieting and hitting cardio everday as well. Don't expect your abs to pop out simply on it, you have to do your part. Good luck.
fugetaboutit
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p.b.- your avatar makes my eyes water like fuck everytime I see it.
Moderate_THIS
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mg/mg winny is the best out there for positive body comp changes, taking into account side effects. Every cycle should be winny based.
Texas Ranger
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Good thread.....
bicepts101
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im gonna run winny fina and proviron in a month or so...looking forward to it quite a bit
Moderate_THIS
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bob said:
Sorry for missing your statement.
If you up your var dose from 50 to 100mg/day, anecdotal evidence (sorry, this is all we have) shows little if any increase in anabolic/lipolytic effects. Not that these remarks hold much water... I doubt if anyone did 100mg/day of var for very long. But I would love to see a cycle log on that.
From what I gather from the more intelligent people I have met, the difference between winny at 50 and 100 mg is tremendous. I've done 50 and got great results. I did 40mg of Var (pretty sure it was good... meow) and wasn't impressed. Granted I was trying to bulk, but perhaps it is most effective in a energy deficit.
I'm itching to try winny at 100mg/day. I'll start a cycle log if I do.
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solidspine
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My favorite cutting cycle is:
3 months reduced calories, cardio and clen 21 days one, 7 days off, liquidex.
Next three months, reduced calories (carbs) increased protien, Primo, winny (6 eweeks), fina (6weeks) and Test, anti e's and pct
3 months reduced calories, cardio and clen 21 days one, 7 days off, liquidex.
Next three months, reduced calories (carbs) increased protien, Primo, winny (6 eweeks), fina (6weeks) and Test, anti e's and pct
TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT
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Fukkenshredded said:
True dat...people need to read up on gear b4 posting stuff
Veinlover
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Fukkenshredded said:
Do you think Winny is harder on the system than Tren? I've heard Tren is very hard on the Liver, and I've heard it is NOT. My personal experience with tren is no harm done, but I've dosed it reasonably. Personally, I think Tren is far more effective than Winny, though Winny does give a certain hardness to the muscle. Tren makes you STRONG, which I like.
And, I've never had pain from Winny, for those of you who think its painful. I've injected biceps, tris, calves, quads. No problems at all. Never delts, that always hurts me, no matter what the A/S. Never done Winny and Tren together, I would suspect the Tren would just overshadow the Winny, wasting your money.
floridalife
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Ok so here's a question in response to someone's comment
Do you think drinking winny is any harder on the liver then IM? I thought IM gets processed via the liver just the same?
Also re drinking, you see some loss when drinking it right so would you add say 25-50% to your nomal dosage to compensate for that?
Do you think drinking winny is any harder on the liver then IM? I thought IM gets processed via the liver just the same?
Also re drinking, you see some loss when drinking it right so would you add say 25-50% to your nomal dosage to compensate for that?
Flamboyant
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heres a question for the experts,
Im going to go on a cycle of Winstrol - stanozolol for 6 weeks. I want to gain alot of strength and gain some weight so if I eat as much as I can and drink alot of protein shakes. how much weight do you think I would gain if this is the first steroid I have ever taken, and I trained super hard (all power no cardio)?
Im going to go on a cycle of Winstrol - stanozolol for 6 weeks. I want to gain alot of strength and gain some weight so if I eat as much as I can and drink alot of protein shakes. how much weight do you think I would gain if this is the first steroid I have ever taken, and I trained super hard (all power no cardio)?
bicepts101
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winny test are the best
Flamboyant
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cmon I need some advice here
I've just read up on Winstrol and the side effects sound pretty scary.
Nausia, vomiting,diahria
development of breast in men (as in t!ts)
hair loss (not that I have much left)
Liver cysts
Deepening of the voice
Swelling of the face,genitals and bowl
Increased aggression and depression
Can anyone who have used this please comment tell the rest of us about what side effects they have experienced?
Nausia, vomiting,diahria
development of breast in men (as in t!ts)
hair loss (not that I have much left)
Liver cysts
Deepening of the voice
Swelling of the face,genitals and bowl
Increased aggression and depression
Can anyone who have used this please comment tell the rest of us about what side effects they have experienced?
lol. look up the side effects of any medication over the counter or prescription.
winny is good to keep bloat down and for hardness. if you want to bulk use test if you dont want to swell up like a baloon add some winny. if you like to suffer or are super resistant to sides add tren.
ok, ive read all ure reviews and this seems to be the type for me, ive been doing weight training and cardio now for a year, changed my diet really good, lots of protein, just enough carbs to keep me in the mood to blast weights out and 20 mins on a treadmill 5 days a week. Never done gear befour, im on 2 protein shakes a day, and a healthy diet plan what consists of tuna,chicken,vedge,pasta,salad, ext. also drinking 2 litres of water a day
what dose should i use?
how long for?
is winstrol on its own fine to take or should i use tes with it ?
should i be worried about side effects, or is this just a state to scare people?
Thanks
p.s im 5.5 ft , weigh 69 kg, abit chubby but loving the burns i get each morning from a great gym session. BUT really want to get rid of the fat with a healthy diet plan.
But want big muscles. thanks
what dose should i use?
how long for?
is winstrol on its own fine to take or should i use tes with it ?
should i be worried about side effects, or is this just a state to scare people?
Thanks
p.s im 5.5 ft , weigh 69 kg, abit chubby but loving the burns i get each morning from a great gym session. BUT really want to get rid of the fat with a healthy diet plan.
But want big muscles. thanks
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Hey I'm new to this winny steroid. I'm 6 ft 220lbs. I'm looking to cut down my fat and build a some muscle I'm pretty big right now but I just want to lose the stomach I have and keep and build the muscle that I have. Is winny the right way for me to go? Please reply with info. I know that with a diet I'll cut my fat down but with winny will it cut it a lil faster or.... Also I'm wondering if anyone know a good and safe place to buy winstrol. Also before I forget which one is better to faster? By injecting it or oral? Please anyone with good advice I need to know.
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