I posted this before in another thread but I will post again to hopefully save some people some money. Winstrol is not a very good steroid. It is good for a few weeks before a contest when you can replace test or whatever with it because it doesn't hold water. Winstrol alone will not give very many gains unless you are willing to spend a boat load of money. Think about it this way, even if you can get winnys at say $6-7 a pop they are only 50mgs a piece and not a very effective 50 mgs at that. To equal an ampule of sustonon or testoviron you need 5 winnys a week. Your talking about 30-40 dollars a week when you can pay about 12 for a shot of testoviron. Now 250mgs is not very much, you probably need more then that, how much are you willing to spend on a cycle of wintrol? $1000? So if you want to spend lots of cash for a lower return more power to you. As for "wanting to cut up for summer", this is one of the biggest misconceptions in bodybuilding that certain steroids are "cutting" steroids. No anabolic burns fat very well. Getting cut can as easily be done on test or anadrol as on winstrol or primo and you probably will look better because with the heavier steroids you will hold more muscle. As long as you diet and do cardio it really doesn't matter what steroid you use. The only time one would switch to a weaker steroid like winny is if they are going to compete and they want to reduce some water retention. I am talking about getting contest hard not walking around the beach hard. Just take some test, diet right, do cardio and you will get in shape. If you want, throw in some growth and t3 also. Don't waste your money on winstrol.