Winny, Var Cycle

[gharvin]

Guys,
I am looking to start a mid march cycle:
Week 1-8 50mg winny every day
Week 1-8 40mg Anavar every day
Cycling clen 2 weeks on and off through cycle
Week 8-12 Nolvadex?Clomid?

I have a goal of adding only strength and getting cut not mass, I know i will get blasted for not adding test. I am going to do another one of these same cycles in the fall with test prop. All my gear is from pinnacle I hear they are solid, has anyone used their prop is it painful on injection and afterward?

 

[myfault]

be sure and use liver protection...
thats a pretty good amount of orals

IMO you should start liver supps a few weeks before your cycle. then continue through your cycle and pct.

not sure about pinnacles prop... good luck man.

 

[gharvin]

i was planning on taking MilkThistle during the run, any other suggestions on supps?

 

[NickyE3]

tyler's liver detox
LOTS and LOTS of water

cranberry extract
glucosamine (help with joints)
fish oil, flax seed oil

 

[52_21_30]

I dunno bro. The cycle looks like a waste to me, and I'm not even talking about how silly it is to run two orals, both of which are synergistic with test which you have not included. Regardless of what you might have read or heard, winstrol and anavar do not get you cut (yes anavar has fat burning properties but they are negligible, esp at this dose). If youre above 12% bf you dont need AAS to cut. If you are lean to begin with, you still only need something like 500 mg of test per week to preserve lean body mass. The meat and potatoes of a cutting cycle is your diet and cardio.

I just dont like the cycle. You can get so so so much more out of 100 mg of test prop EOD or ED with the 50 mg of winstrol.

 

[myfault]

i was planning on taking MilkThistle during the run, any other suggestions on supps?

tyler's or liv52 along with the milk thistle.
as nicky said glucosamine, choindroitin, msm would be a good idea. be sure to use it in liquid form, as pill form is near worthless for the most part.

 

[gharvin]

I dunno bro. The cycle looks like a waste to me, and I'm not even talking about how silly it is to run two orals, both of which are synergistic with test which you have not included. Regardless of what you might have read or heard, winstrol and anavar do not get you cut (yes anavar has fat burning properties but they are negligible, esp at this dose). If youre above 12% bf you dont need AAS to cut. If you are lean to begin with, you still only need something like 500 mg of test per week to preserve lean body mass. The meat and potatoes of a cutting cycle is your diet and cardio.

I just dont like the cycle. You can get so so so much more out of 100 mg of test prop EOD or ED with the 50 mg of winstrol.

I am still considering running the prop but maybe every third day as i have read that is the longest you can go. My diet and cardio are spot on, I have been on a cutting diet and training program for a month. I am 6'1" and 230 and do not want be heavier than what i am now, actually would like to be around 220. Is it possible to lose weight on prop with proper diet and cardio?

 

[52_21_30]

I am still considering running the prop but maybe every third day as i have read that is the longest you can go. My diet and cardio are spot on, I have been on a cutting diet and training program for a month. I am 6'1" and 230 and do not want be heavier than what i am now, actually would like to be around 220. Is it possible to lose weight on prop with proper diet and cardio?

Absolutely you can lose weight. The top pro's shed 40 lbs sometimes in 8 weeks before a show, all when on 3000 mg of gear or more. Granted, theyre usually using little to no test, but all that gear and dropping all that fat and water shows you it is indeed possible. I wouldn't get hung up on your weight though, unless you're competing in a weight class in a certain sport. Just go by how you look and feel. If you gain a few pounds from using test and winstrol but lose bf and look harder and more vascular, I'd say that's a success.

 

[gharvin]

Week 1-8 50mg winny every day
Week 1-8 40mg Anavar every day
Week 1-8 100mg of test prop every other day
Cycling clen 2 weeks on and off through cycle
Week 8-12 Nolvadex?Clomid?

Throwing in the prop what will be the best PCT??