winny+tren for 20 weeks

[Sergio Garcia]

I am considering running tren at 75mg Ed along with winstrol orals at 50mg ED along with test at 750mg per week. Deca at 600mg per week. Proviron will be run at 75mg ED. This cycle will be 20 weeks in length. I would like to hear some opinions on this. Thanks guys.

 

[nice6pac]

i think in all honesty you did jackshit for research 50mg of any oral for 20 weeks is stupid you wanted my opinion there you got it

 

[Sergio Garcia]

all proper precautions will be taken. Blood tests, ancillaries, h20 intake, etc.

 

[The Almighty]

The only reason anyone would consider doing a cycle like that is if they are a pro about to compete or they wanted a new liver.

Chances are you are not a pro about to compete.....

 

[Sergio Garcia]

Bro, did you not see where I stated that proper precautions will be taken, physician monitoring, blood tests, ancillaries. I am hoping to add 50lbs of LBM within the next year, thus, these types of cycles are necessary. The key is to take the necessary precautions.

 

[sk*]

Bro, did you not see where I stated that proper precautions will be taken, physician monitoring, blood tests, ancillaries. I am hoping to add 50lbs of LBM within the next year, thus, these types of cycles are necessary. The key is to take the necessary precautions.

You really have to stop, in one day I have seen at least 4 threads such as my 20week cycle, i've been working out one year but I wanna take a year long steroids cycle, my summer cycle, and now this.

Do more reading than asking, it will really help you. I replied to every one of your other threads but now I feel like I wasted my time since you didn't even listen.

And stop dreaming, you aren't gonna put on 50lbs of lean body mass in one year. And if you know the key, then just go do it don't ask questions.

-sk

 

[The Almighty]

Oh my god.

LOL in the past year since I started using gear I have put on close to 60 pounds (not all muscle of course) and my 3 cycles were nowhere near as stupid as the cycle you are planning.

There are no proper precautions when taking that much shit for that long. If you need those types of cycles to gain 50 pounds in a year then there is something wrong.

 

[Juice Authority]

I am considering running tren at 75mg Ed along with winstrol orals at 50mg ED along with test at 750mg per week. Deca at 600mg per week. Proviron will be run at 75mg ED. This cycle will be 20 weeks in length. I would like to hear some opinions on this. Thanks guys.

I hope you plan to get routine blood work done. I personally wouldn't go longer than 6 weeks on oral winnny and no longer than 8 weeks of Tren. You'll probably also start noticing severe joint point from an extended winny cycle. Make sure to use the Glucosamine/Chondroitin/MSN combo starting day 1 and throughout the cycle for the joint pain.

Also, you're planning on taking both Tren and Deca in the same cycle??? Why?? Hopefully you will be running HCG throughout your cycle since Tren and Deca taken separately shut you down very hard let alone taking them together.

All and all, this is a very poorly planned cycle. I would go back to the drawing board if I were you.

 

[Sergio Garcia]

Hey buddy, what are your stats? 60lbs in one year is impressive, what % would you say is LBM. There is a big difference between 60lbs and 60lbs of LBM

 

[Paulos]

If you need 20 weeks of tren and winstrol to grow then you have no business juicing.

 

[The Almighty]

Hey buddy, what are your stats? 60lbs in one year is impressive, what % would you say is LBM. There is a big difference between 60lbs and 60lbs of LBM

No shit there is a big difference. My highest weight was about 228 at 15%. Right now I am sitting at 213 at around 9-10%.

I started gear at 170 @ 8%bf.

 

[Sergio Garcia]

juice authority, deca will be used to counteract the joint problems from winny. Of course HCG will be used, I have access to excellent physician monitoring, thus every precaution will be taken

 

[Fonz]

I am considering running tren at 75mg Ed along with winstrol orals at 50mg ED along with test at 750mg per week. Deca at 600mg per week. Proviron will be run at 75mg ED. This cycle will be 20 weeks in length. I would like to hear some opinions on this. Thanks guys.

Winstrol is pretty harsh. 12 weeks is as far as I would go if using 50-100mg/day. And then I'd be using every single liver ancilliary I know of.
Problem with your cycle is you're stacking A LOT of different AAS.

I'm on Week 39 of Fina...but I only use Fina and EQ. And thats 50mg Fina ED/400mg EQ.

You're doing (75*7) + ( 50*7) + (750) + (600) = 2.225g AAS/week

And thats not counting proviron...which is technically an adnrogen too.

Simplify it.

Fonz

 

[Juice Authority]

juice authority, deca will be used to counteract the joint problems from winny. Of course HCG will be used, I have access to excellent physician monitoring, thus every precaution will be taken

I still don't understand why anyone would take Tren with Deca especially at that dose.

 

[Sergio Garcia]

Almighty, I am basically starting gear at 5'9'' at 200lbs 7% bodyfat. I have completed one previous cycle of sust at 250mg per week for 8 weeks, i gained 28lbs. I believe I probably have much greater potential for LBM gains than most people

 

[Sergio Garcia]

Fonz, I like your idea of a long running tren cycle. How would tren at 75mg ED, 750mg test per week+75mg proviron ED, look for 20 weeks? Thanks

 

[sk*]

And don't forget he says he can squat 405 for sets of 20 naturally too.

He does it with rest pause.

LOL

-sk

 

[Fonz]

I still don't understand why anyone would take Tren with Deca especially at that dose.

Ditto.

All is needed for improved joints is 200mg/week.

Fonz

 

[Fonz]

No shit there is a big difference. My highest weight was about 228 at 15%. Right now I am sitting at 213 at around 9-10%.

I started gear at 170 @ 8%bf.

Almighty, that is a very childish signature. Seriously. WTF?

I think he got the message.

Fonz

 

[Paulos]

Almighty, I am basically starting gear at 5'9'' at 200lbs 7% bodyfat. I have completed one previous cycle of sust at 250mg per week for 8 weeks, i gained 28lbs. I believe I probably have much greater potential for LBM gains than most people

Then gain it in two reasonable cycles instead of one insane one.

 

[Fonz]

Fonz, I like your idea of a long running tren cycle. How would tren at 75mg ED, 750mg test per week+75mg proviron ED, look for 20 weeks? Thanks

Thats more doable.

I'm not a big test fan though.

I normally just run it at 250mg/week. It makes me irritable.

Fonz

 

[The Almighty]

Almighty, I am basically starting gear at 5'9'' at 200lbs 7% bodyfat. I have completed one previous cycle of sust at 250mg per week for 8 weeks, i gained 28lbs. I believe I probably have much greater potential for LBM gains than most people

Ok, well you just answered your own question.

If with sust at 250mg/week for 8 weeks you gained 28 pounds, why use all this other shit?

Why not just run sust 500mg/week for 8 weeks?

 

[The Almighty]

Almighty, that is a very childish signature. Seriously. WTF?

I think he got the message.

Fonz

I respect your opinion. I personally just think it and the whole situation surrounding it is funny.

 

[Sergio Garcia]

SK-Dial Tone, you guys must be pussys in the weight room. 405lbs for squats is not that much weight. Fonz, what would you suggest to replace Test, I was thinking about EQ at 600-800mg per week, however I have heard that it competes with tren for receptor space? Thanks

 

[Fonz]

I respect your opinion. I personally just think it and the whole situation surrounding it is funny.

OK. Fair enough.

Fonz

 

[Juice Authority]

SK-Dial Tone, you guys must be pussys in the weight room. 405lbs for squats is not that much weight. Fonz, what would you suggest to replace Test, I was thinking about EQ at 600-800mg per week, however I have heard that it competes with tren for receptor space? Thanks

It all boils down to technique and form. 405lbs squat below parrallel is considerably different than a squat @405lbs above parrallel.

 

[Fonz]

SK-Dial Tone, you guys must be pussys in the weight room. 405lbs for squats is not that much weight. Fonz, what would you suggest to replace Test, I was thinking about EQ at 600-800mg per week, however I have heard that it competes with tren for receptor space? Thanks

A good cycle for you would be:

250mg Test/600mg EQ/75mg Fina ED.

You could run this for 20 weeks if you were monitored.

This will give you great gains and be a lot safer than the first
cycle you posted.
.

Fonz

 

[Sergio Garcia]

thanks for the advice Fonz, Also, I will be using Tren whuch is made from a powder base, manufactured out of a underground lab in Europe. How does the powder form compare to Fina pellets?

 

[Fonz]

thanks for the advice Fonz, Also, I will be using Tren whuch is made from a powder base, manufactured out of a underground lab in Europe. How does the powder form compare to Fina pellets?

Exact same thing.

Some people just get Fina cough from home-made. The reason why this happens is still being debated.

Fonz

 

[sk*]

405lbs 20reps parallel or below, no I can't do it nor have I seen anyone do it. I am a pussy.

-sk

 

[Fonz]

Me too. LOL. I got a $50 that says you can't do 10 straight reps with 405 ass to heels. If you can do 20, pause or not, you have World Powerlifting Champion written all over you.

Murder on your joints.

I have very strong legs(Soccer)....and I seriously doubt I could crank out 5 maybe 6. I weigh 184lbs btw.

Fonz

 

[Juice Authority]

405lbs 20reps parallel or below, no I can't do it nor have I seen anyone do it. I am a pussy.

-sk

Today was leg day for me. I was lucky to get 6 reps @405lbs.

 

[Paulos]

I got 405 x 7 then 475 x 1 last leg day.

Can't wait till I go back on, I should be able to hit 405 x 15 by the end.