winny doesn't have to be tapered....right?

[str8cubano]

just about to end winny cycle and i know that clomid pattern im supposed to take, but just making sure that you dont have to taper the winny.....do you?yea i know i dont know just making sure

 

[PimpnAintEasy]

No, not when using clomid.

 

[Fonz]

just about to end winny cycle and i know that clomid pattern im supposed to take, but just making sure that you dont have to taper the winny.....do you?yea i know i dont know just making sure

There is no reason to taper ANY oral.
An orals half-life is TOO short.

Anyways, the tapering vs static dosage debate
is ridiculous, even when applied to injectables
(since they are self-tapering anyways).

Godspeed

 

[Wrongun]

Re: Re: winny doesn't have to be tapered....right?

There is no reason to taper ANY oral.
An orals half-life is TOO short.

Anyways, the tapering vs static dosage debate
is ridiculous, even when applied to injectables
(since they are self-tapering anyways).

Godspeed

I am with Fonz on this and he is my mentor for orals.

 

[AnabolicDiabetic]

No need to taper as the other guys have said

 

[Yellowbomber]

the old threat pyramiding vs not is still alive. Myselves still using the old pyramiding theory, so that guess what's my advice on it?

 

[str8cubano]

thanks

 

[Fonz]

Ok, I see an explanation is in order.
For orals anyway. The inj. explanation
is in the old archives.

I'll give you an example:

Winstrol at 50mgs/day for 8 weeks STATIC DOSAGE
Winstrol pyramid for 8 weeks with a 50mg peak
on week 4.

With the tapering dosage, recovery isn't going to start
until you take 5-10mg/day, and even then its
highly probable you're still suppressing TSH
by quite A LOT.

So basically, the first 2 weeks are WORTHLESS
because you were tapering up the dosage,
and the last 2 weeks ALSO because
you were tapering down the dosage.

All for what? Better recovery? NOPE.

You're still suppressing the HPTA those
last 2 weeks.

Now, lets look at a STATIC DOSAGE.

50mgs/day for 8 weeks

Right from the start your cycle is in an anbolic mode.
The HPTA is being suppressed also.

But here is the kicker:

As soon as you stop the dosage, recovery starts as the
half-life of oral winny is very short.
The pyramid method will start recovery with
a slightly less suppressed HPTA but this difference
is so minimal its almost non-existant.

So, to sum it up:

1. You get 4 MORE WEEKS of BETTER
muscle-building on the STATIC
dosage then on the pyramid dosage
(You also use more mg's of sthe steroid)
yet you START recovery of the HPTA
at almost the exact same time.

See how ridiculous pyramiding with orals is?


Godspeed

 

[Wrongun]

Ok, I see an explanation is in order.
For orals anyway. The inj. explanation
is in the old archives.

I'll give you an example:

Winstrol at 50mgs/day for 8 weeks STATIC DOSAGE
Winstrol pyramid for 8 weeks with a 50mg peak
on week 4.

With the tapering dosage, recovery isn't going to start
until you take 5-10mg/day, and even then its
highly probable you're still suppressing TSH
by quite A LOT.

So basically, the first 2 weeks are WORTHLESS
because you were tapering up the dosage,
and the last 2 weeks ALSO because
you were tapering down the dosage.

All for what? Better recovery? NOPE.

You're still suppressing the HPTA those
last 2 weeks.

Now, lets look at a STATIC DOSAGE.

50mgs/day for 8 weeks

Right from the start your cycle is in an anbolic mode.
The HPTA is being suppressed also.

But here is the kicker:

As soon as you stop the dosage, recovery starts as the
half-life of oral winny is very short.
The pyramid method will start recovery with
a slightly less suppressed HPTA but this difference
is so minimal its almost non-existant.

So, to sum it up:

1. You get 4 MORE WEEKS of BETTER
muscle-building on the STATIC
dosage then on the pyramid dosage
(You also use more mg's of sthe steroid)
yet you START recovery of the HPTA
at almost the exact same time.

See how ridiculous pyramiding with orals is?


Godspeed

Nuff said thanks for the info

 

[str8cubano]

thanks for the explenation fonz...