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winny and low dose d ball stack

rouss

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thinking about running winny 40mgs day for 6 week but adding a low dose of d-bol (10 mgs)every day . I figure it will add some water to my joints and some slight size . Also the winny will counter act the estrogen from the d-bol. The point of the cycle is primarily cardio, strength and recomp , I not lookin to bulk. opinions??
 
we all know guys who take rediculosly large amount of steroids year in and year out without acute liver failure,. Granted it can happen . The signs of a liver being over stressed are quite noticable and gradual . Simply lower the dosage ot stop the cycle.
 
we all know guys who take rediculosly large amount of steroids year in and year out without acute liver failure,. Granted it can happen . The signs of a liver being over stressed are quite noticable and gradual . Simply lower the dosage ot stop the cycle.

True, but why in the world would you take ANY chances when you have products like N2Guard, Liv-52, etc. at your disposal? To run a Winstrol/D-Bol only cycle without some type of on-cycle support is asinine.

And to quote PICK3 on this:
"just sayin' "
 
rouss,ur not ready to juice,u need more reasearch,most people dont do 2 orals at once,and if they do they have about a 5week break between the 2 orals,and they may not have imdate failure but thats not to say in 5 years form now something wont spring up,the human body is tricky like that
 
I am not ready to juice , I have done about 8 cycles in the past 16 years or so. I just train natty for the past few years. Im not ready thats funny . I used dbol when it was actually good ( made by ciba). we should all be carefull with our liver ,however The stess steroids put on the liver is over exagerated. Many prescription meds that people need to take long term put more stress on the liver than steroids. A six week cycle should not do permanent damage if there is no pre existing condition
 
I always read the "don't use 2 orals at once" "your liver will be destroyed" but then you see many cycles that use 50-100mg dbol or 100+mg , anadrol and that's ok?? I don't see why combining 2 and the total being only 60mg per day can be that bad. There's so much bullshit passed around and concidered to be fact, you end up having to just rely on common sense and knowing your body to know what's best. Plenty of cycles with 100+mg winny or 60+ mg of dbol around, I'd say you're fine but when doing any cycle you better be paying attention to your body and using common sense. There's so many guys running 600mg a week of tren and then saying you shouldn't use an oral longer than 6 weeks.. Or don't combine this with that.. Makes me question alot if what's pasts around these boards as "fact".
 
Bro I doubt 40 mg winny and 10 mg dbol is going to be any worse than 50mg dbol or 70mg tbol or even 100mg anavar that are quite common these days. That being said, none of it is helping your liver
 
My liver values improved while I was on 50 mg Winstrol for 4 weeks. No liver protection whatsoever, and the test at end of cycle was an extended test as well. They checked a lot of different stuff. This is the 3 time I have checked my liver while using Winstrol, and none of them have showed increased values. So at least for me orals don't seem to bother my liver.
 
^^^^^i call BULLSHIT,there is no way,your going to be able to take winstrol which is one of the worse orals for your liver,and your liver values improve,just bullshit
 
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