Winni Tren & Test Cycle?

[streetyfatb]

Hi,

I am 20 years old with 4 cycles under mybelt using many popular steroids such as sus, deca, bdol, tren etc. I weight 217lbs and have lots a bit of size since 1 year without steroid use, but not much weight since i assume i have lost water.

For this cycle I plan on having 8 weeks just to give me more of an edge before progressing onto a larger cycle in the new year getting ready for summer.

Here is my plan:

Week 1 - 8 800mg Test - Test 400 (Test mix) 1ml every mon & fri
Week 1 - 6 450mg Tren Ace 150mg every mon, wed, fri
Week 1 - 6 50 - 70mg Winni ED on pyramid
Week 1 - 8 80mcg Clen 2 days on 2 days off (2 x 40mcg)

Can anyone asist with a PCT I can get hold of clomid, hcg, nolvadex and proviron. Plus anything to keep water down. I hope to get 5lbs or somewhere in that region that I keep with a lower body fat.

I will be stackig with muscletech's Nitrotech Extreme, Celltech Extreme, Anator and Nano Vapour.

Cheers folks

 

[solidspine]

20 years old,

The consensus is don’t start gear until you are about 25 years old, or until your bone plates have closed.

That conversation is over in your case.

Question how tall are you?

Don’t need to pyramid your gear, and I like

1000 IU HCG for 6-10 days with Nolvadex and if necessary

30 days of Clomid at 50mg per day after the HCG/

 

[holy ghost]

needto is good with pcts plans bro

 

[streetyfatb]

any comments on cycle guys? I am aroung 5"8 - 5"9

 

[Gorilla65]

i would do 75mg tren a day or 125mg eod. winnie 50mg ed or 100mg eod. clen two weeks on, two weeks off. also on your 3rd week use take benadryl 50-100mg before bed so to reduce beta 2 receptors activity and restore receptor function. and don't go over 120mcgs of clen.

 

[streetyfatb]

Cheers mate what if I did 150mg tren EOD and 400mg test everyy 4th or 3rd day. Will this achieve the goals I hope to achieve and are the supplements I have suggested compatible?

Cheers

 

[socket]

Looks good fella, few observations:

Keep winny at 50mg every day, no need to pyramid
Run Tre.n at 75mg each day to keep blood levels stable
Introduce low dose of T3, as Tre.n will suppress T3

Keep protein high, water intake high to minimise bloat, get hold of some arimidex or femara just in case of progesterone gyno onset.

Good Luck !

 

[streetyfatb]

Cheers mate can't I just run tren @ 150mg EOD as there are less injections as everyone including myself hates injections?

Also is 50mg of winstrol enough, I want to try and get myself really cut, and the test is that okay also?

Cheers mate

 

[ego boner]

Hi,

I am 20 years old with 4 cycles under mybelt using many popular steroids such as sus, Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - , bdol, trenbolone etc. I weight 217lbs and have lots a bit of size since 1 year without steroid use, but not much weight since i assume i have lost water.

For this cycle I plan on having 8 weeks just to give me more of an edge before progressing onto a larger cycle in the new year getting ready for summer.

Here is my plan:

Week 1 - 8 800mg Test - Test 400 (Test mix) 1ml every mon & fri
Week 1 - 6 450mg Tren Ace 150mg every mon, wed, fri
Week 1 - 6 50 - 70mg Winni ED on pyramid
Week 1 - 8 80mcg Clenbuterol 2 days on 2 days off (2 x 40mcg)

Can anyone asist with a PCT - post cycle therapy - I can get hold of clomid, HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - , nolvadex and proviron. Plus anything to keep water down. I hope to get 5lbs or somewhere in that region that I keep with a lower body fat.

I will be stackig with muscletech's Nitrotech Extreme, Celltech Extreme, Anator and Nano Vapour.

Cheers folks

one word---- IDIOT

 

[socket]

The cutting of fat is completely down to diet. Going with Every day injections keeps the levels in the blood much more consistent, meaning less side effects, and better gains. If you want to cut, then the test you are looking to run will cause you to hold water, so if you can, swap it out for test Prop, and go 100mgs per day with the prop.

Daily jabs are a pleasure of life, i look forward to my daily shot! If you don't like jabs, get some smaller pins.

 

[Gorilla65]

you can get by with 150 mgs tren eod

 

[streetyfatb]

hey ego boner why does asking for advice doing research and asking for suggestions make me an idiot? Surely an idiot would take steroids with a lack of knowledge and correct use, I post on here to ensure that I do everything as professional as possible? Please post something to contribute and enhance my knowledge on the subject rather then post inappropriate comments.

The reason I am using a strong more long lasting testosterone blend is mainly because it is cheaper and has less to inject. I will run armidex to help with bloat but wish to minimise water retention, however a friend of mine I work with who won Mr Universe I think 1994 dennis francis, suggests using test, tren, winni, clen, anadrol and lots of PCT stuff like proviron, armidex, hcg and clomid but I think this is way too much and too costly plus I will gain too much water, he is ripped all the time and can take these without too much bother but I struggle ripping up as opposed to gaining weight.

Cheers

 

[ego boner]

hey ego boner why does asking for advice doing research and asking for suggestions make me an idiot? Surely an idiot would take steroids with a lack of knowledge and correct use, I post on here to ensure that I do everything as professional as possible? Please post something to contribute and enhance my knowledge on the subject rather then post inappropriate comments.

The reason I am using a strong more long lasting testosterone blend is mainly because it is cheaper and has less to inject. I will run armidex to help with bloat but wish to minimise water retention, however a friend of mine I work with who won Mr Universe I think 1994 dennis francis, suggests using test, trenbolone, winni, Clenbuterol, anadrol and lots of PCT - post cycle therapy - stuff like proviron, armidex, HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - and clomid but I think this is way too much and too costly plus I will gain too much water, he is ripped all the time and can take these without too much bother but I struggle ripping up as opposed to gaining weight.

Cheers

your thirst for knowledge is good and all, but the reason i say IDIOT is because at the very first line of the original post... you are 20 yrs old and have already done 4 cycles?? I don't buy it. With proper on/off time for four cycles that means you started juicing when you were what??? 16??. i bet your pecker never developed and i hope you enjoy being on HRT by the time you are 25. Now what is more than likely the truth of the situation is--- you are 20 and are trying to impress some chicks by being buff.. BUT . you dont think the rules apply to you and want to just skip a few years of working out your body naturally while it is in prime condition for it (being 20yr o). and you want to hop on all sorts of A.AS and ruin the potential you could have down the road by researching NOW and using it properly once you have reached your genetic potential naturally.

I dont say idiot out of hate. I say it because starting20 researching this stuff you have a greater opportunity than most on here. but youmay have already hindered this IF you really have already done 4 cycles.

BUT- thats just my opinion... do what you will and good luck when impotence strikes early

 

[streetyfatb]

I have had 4 cycles 2 @ 6 weeks and 2 @ 10 weeks starting at age 18, so get your facts right, I have been training since 14 and I do it for myself I am quite happy with my girlfriend and have only myself to train for.

It would help if you didn't stereotype me thank you.

I also follow advice from mr universe 1994 dennis francis who I work with and offers me great advice, no disrespect but im sure he knows more than you.

Also my 1st cycle was deca/sus/dbol (never again since I became a water ballon), 2nd was tren and test 3rd was tren/test/deca and 4th mast/tren/test.

I would appricate constructive critism rather than stereotypical judgements, you know nothing about me, my situation, experience or level of dedication so please don't pass judgement.

Anything else please ask rather than jump to conclusions thank you.

 

[holy ghost]

let it go

thread is over

 

[needtogetaas]

Hi,

I am 20 years old with 4 cycles under mybelt using many popular steroids such as sus, Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - , bdol, trenbolone etc. I weight 217lbs and have lots a bit of size since 1 year without steroid use, but not much weight since i assume i have lost water.

For this cycle I plan on having 8 weeks just to give me more of an edge before progressing onto a larger cycle in the new year getting ready for summer.

Here is my plan:

Week 1 - 8 800mg Test - Test 400 (Test mix) 1ml every mon & fri
Week 1 - 6 450mg Tren Ace 150mg every mon, wed, fri
Week 1 - 6 50 - 70mg Winni ED on pyramid
Week 1 - 8 80mcg Clenbuterol 2 days on 2 days off (2 x 40mcg)

Can anyone asist with a PCT - post cycle therapy - I can get hold of clomid, HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - , nolvadex and proviron. Plus anything to keep water down. I hope to get 5lbs or somewhere in that region that I keep with a lower body fat.

I will be stackig with muscletech's Nitrotech Extreme, Celltech Extreme, Anator and Nano Vapour.

Cheers folks

I would run 500uis hcg twice a week for the last 4 weeks of cycle..2 weeks after last shot use dermacrin sustain 4 weeks 5 pumps ed with 25mg clomid ed
I would have letro and destinex on hand during this cycle.