Will This Work?

[Juice Authority]

Why Deca and Test? For a first cycle I would go Test/EQ or Deca/D-bol

 

[stef]

Bros,

I've got about 5 yrs consistent natural bodybuilding experience and the only supplement regime that has worked for me is overdosing on Nordiol prohormones . So naturally I've decided to try the real thing and am preparing a 1st cycle as follows:


Deca/Test

WK1 200/250
WK2 300/500
WK3 300/500
WK4 300/500
WK5 300/500
WK6 300/500
WK7 300/500
WK8 300/500

Will take 25-50mg Nolvadex/day throughout and finish in weeks 10, 11 & 12 with Clomid @ 100mg (300mg 1st day), 75mg, 50mg respectively.

Its quite a strong stack for a first time but I would like to hear how peoples experiences on dosages and timing, especially on post cycle prep and whether to go for Sust, Cypionate or Ethanate. APPROX. HOW MUCH MASS/STRENGTH SHOULD I EXPECT TO GAIN/KEEP?

I'm 27, 6'5, 200lbs, v. low bodyfat and consider myself a "Hardgainer". Will be maintaining a minimum 4000 calorie, 350g protein diet throughout.

Any advice from those with experiences of such stack would be greatly appreciated - I want to get it right first time!

Thanks!

 

[stef]

Why EQ and not Deca? Have you had experiences on both? I would expect more gains on Deca although I realise I could lose more post cycle than on EQ. What do you think about the dosage for a first timer?

thanks.....

 

[Juice Authority]

Why EQ and not Deca? Have you had experiences on both? I would expect more gains on Deca although I realise I could lose more post cycle than on EQ. What do you think about the dosage for a first timer?

thanks.....

EQ increases your appetite and gives you a more vascular look.

First cycle

Week 1 to 10: 400mg of EQ
Week 1 to 10: 4-500mg of test
Week 13 to 15: Clomid Therapy

 

[Deleted member 33117]

JA's advice is good here. Go with the eq, and don't taper up the doses. Either frontload the first week with a higher dose or keep it constant start to finish. Test/eq is a great first timer's cycle.

 

[stef]

Are you saying that I should do EQ over Deca cos at the end of the cycle I'm going to keep more quality muscle regardless of how much I gained on Deca during the cycle? Thats obviously the goal isn't it!

 

[galaxy]

cycle looks solid. Drop the nolva , unless you need it though.............galaxy

 

[Deleted member 33117]

You'll probably gain more total muscle on the eq, with less side effects. That is what alot of guys will tell you, though deca does have its following. Eq vs. deca is a hot debate right now.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

galaxy, damn bro... that's alot of gear. What are your current stats?

 

[galaxy]

6.0' tall weighed 244lbs tonite and can see abs. Just started training hard the last couple of weeks. Cant get scanner to connect or Id take some pics. BTW Im drunk right now. Although I dont condone it, but Im pounding down the H20 as we speak...............galaxy

 

[stef]

Jus tover 200 lbs lean muscle. 6'5. What would you recommend on dosages?

Thanks.

 

[galaxy]

You said your a hard gainer, plus your tall, which sucks....So, do your current cycle as planned. If you were shorter, Id just stick to the test, but being tall, you got some area to cover............galaxy

 

[Juice Authority]

Oh I gotcha BodyByFinaplix - thought you were taking the piss for a moment!!! Or maybe I'll throw in some booze if that works for Galaxy!

Arnold used to pounds beers and workout.

 

[stef]

Oh I gotcha BodyByFinaplix - thought you were taking the piss for a moment!!! Or maybe I'll throw in some booze if that works for Galaxy!

 

[stef]

Cheers Galaxy! Get that H20 in you!

 

[galaxy]

On my third cup right now. Just brushed my teeth also, so I wake up feeling minty fresh........ Was going to pop a 25mg dbol tab, but thought better of it.......Stef, have your considered some dbol? I had a tall friend who just never seemed satisfied when he juiced and I think its because he never did enough gear. It easy for those short fuckers to fill out, so I dont have a problem recommending over 1g to you. I truly do believe its the only way you will be happy with your cycle and thats not the booze talking...........................galaxy

 

[tapoutm]

hey galaxy how does that test 400 fell when injected. Do you mix it.
Tapoutm

 

[galaxy]

Only quad shots mixed with equal eq and Ive been fine. Havent done it straight and wont. Why risk it? Shot 2ccs of QV t100 though and that stung, but did fill out my bicep nicely. Ttokkyo testonon 250, now that sucked. Could barely walk up stairs, but I still kept shooting it.

 

[stef]

Dianabol's just going to bloat me. I know its common to throw it in for a few weeks to start but I don't want to go overboard and if I get side effects I wont have a clue where from!!!

If I did include it for the 1st 3-4 weeks would i see that extra muscle post cycle?

 

[tapoutm]

lol lol I was running my mouth being tough and was dared to shoot test 400 in my tricep I did and it swelled for about a week I will never shoot that stuff alone again.