Why use anything but Testo?

[jhkram]

I've been reading through the forum posts trying to educate myself on the various aspects of AAS, and understand that Testosterone (with the various esters) is the "gold standard" of steroids.
Almost any stack seem to involve Testo, and most beginners are advised to start with just Testo, maybe with some Dbol.
With the exception of Tren, most other steroids are said to be weaker than Test, but also have less side-effects. So the question then is, if I'm not particularly prone to sides, why use anything else than Testo?

Would there be benefits using for example 300mg of decca and 250mg of testo instead of just 550mg of testo in a bulking cycle?
And since Testo, at least in my country is far cheaper than decca, and even more so if we are talking Masteron or Primo, if you're not looking for the cutting properties of those steroids, Testo would be cheaper and more potent?

 

[-SD-]

different steroids have different androgenic/anabolic rations and when they are stacked there is a synergy between certain stacks that when compared on a milligram to milligram basis to just test, turns out to be better for reasons of less sides, less bloat, more quality lean gains, more strength, etc. The combos are almost endless.

 

[ArmaniAK47]

I've been reading through the forum posts trying to educate myself on the various aspects of AAS, and understand that Testosterone (with the various esters) is the "gold standard" of steroids.
Almost any stack seem to involve Testo, and most beginners are advised to start with just Testo, maybe with some Dbol.
With the exception of Tren, most other steroids are said to be weaker than Test, but also have less side-effects. So the question then is, if I'm not particularly prone to sides, why use anything else than Testo?

Would there be benefits using for example 300mg of decca and 250mg of testo instead of just 550mg of testo in a bulking cycle?
And since Testo, at least in my country is far cheaper than decca, and even more so if we are talking Masteron or Primo, if you're not looking for the cutting properties of those steroids, Testo would be cheaper and more potent?

I agree with superdave..

And there is also a limit on how much test you can use before the side effects come up..
noone can use a gram (1000mg) of test a week without serious side effects or using strong drugs to prevent the sides..

On the other hand, someone /may/ be able to get away with say 400mg test, 200mg deca and 400mg primo.. I havn't tried that, but maybe you get the idea?

Test is the gold standard.. but when you use the safe dose and still want more.. you can turn to other drugs..

It's like having a tool chest.. sure the basic couple of tools can get a lot of jobs done, but having some unique or high quality variations of these tools can come in handy to finish the job... I'm not sure that is a good analogy.. but hope that helps.

 

[jhkram]

OK. So that means that a steroid may build more muscle in combination with Testo, even if by taking that steroid you lower the anabolic ratio of the mix to less than 100:100?

Would the best course of action be to run shorter cycles (say 8 weeks) of Testo only, and up the dosage for each cycle until sides became noticeable, lower a little and try adding other types of steroids?

 

[ArmaniAK47]

Well Jhkram.. There are a few ways to look at this..

I run something ALL the time.. I don't go through the rollercoaster of PCT many do.. but this methed may have some negative effects.. for one, I am probably sterile at least temporarily.. (which I like)
I do take breaks, what someone may call a maintenance period.. where I use lower dose test and kind of take it easy a bit. (instead of PCT)

I can say from experience.. that all the drugs I have tried were very different in effects.. One reason people always include Testosterone is to avoid sexual disfunction and a lot of people like the way test makes them feel (along with the gains)

I usually use lower doses than most people in general.. I think if your diet/training/rest/supplements are all perfect you don't need mega doses of anabolics..
The highest I could ever see me going is around 800mg or 1000mg of anabolics per week.. and that would be a heavy bulking cycle..I also like to avoid what we call ancilliary drugs when I can..

To give you a cleaner answer, to the point.. If I were you (and wanted to do PCT) I would do 10-15 week cycles with 4-6 weeks pct each time..

I would start with 250 or 400mgs test, or as my first cycle went 10mg dbol a day for 30 days..
Then up the test and see how sides go.. or try adding another drug like say..Deca 200mgs/week.

-Just what I would do. Not medical advice.