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why the AK-47

Lao Tzu

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why is the AK 47 the machine gun of choice for terrorists & gang members? why not the MP5, M16, Mac 10, i'm guessing it is because there is some country out there that makes AK-47's, but has really lax purchasing laws. so people buy them by the ton in that country then ship them out over the world. Is that true, and if so what country do they come from (russia, china, etc)
 
:devil:
Because of it's durability. You can drop it off a building and it will still fire. It wont jam in auto either. It's also simple internally.
 
Bigsatan13 said:
:devil:
Because of it's durability. You can drop it off a building and it will still fire. It wont jam in auto either. It's also simple internally.


yeah but is that the main reason why gang members & terrorists are always seen with one instead of an MP5 or UZI? i would assume that for some reason the AK is more easy to get than, say an M16, but i don't know why.
 
CHEAP, RELIABLE, PRECISE, POWERFULL AND EFFECTIVE.
DID I MENTION RELIABLE?

IT'S ONE OF THE BEST DESIGNED GUNS IN THE WORLD.
 
It's all in the price.

And AK's are produced all over the place--china, bulgaria, romania, russia, hungary.

They are much cheaper than the others mentioned.


I would very much like to operate and possibly own an MP5.
 
You can drop one in a mud puddle and pick it up and start firing. Tolerance on the M16 is too tight and it would only jam. Price and availabilty are a biggie also.
 
AK - 47 has made my top 5 marijuana strains on 2 different occasions. 1 strain was govt. grown and I copped it in North Carolina, the other strain was recently acquired about a week ago. They both have left a definite memory for me personally.
Top 5
1. Purple Kush(was from Minnesota but got it in Houston, was mailed, circa 1998)
2. Purple Haze(from North Carolina, circa 1999)
3. AK - 47(from North Carolina, govt. grown circa 1999)
4. Skunk #5(from Houston, circa 1998)
5. AK - 47(from Houston, 2002)

Sometimes I don't like talking about my top 5 because the first 2 are purple strains, usually purple strains are not as potent as something like a Silver Haze or Pearl, but these were straight up heavenly bliss, peace
 
The AK was first made in Russia i beleive but now they're made everywhere.


I think that terrorists use them mainly because of the 7.62mm round it fires so that in the unlikely event they hit whatever they're firing at they'll do more damage than with a 5.56 round (M16) or a 9mm round (MP5).
 
The reason everyone uses the AK47 is simple availability.. There are billions of these weapons in existence right now. Were as NATO has several different weapons system for the different countries USA=M16 France=famas Britain =FAL Britain has a new weapon but I can recall the name at the moment.. All the eastern block countries have one the AK47....
 
Availibility/Price is why everyone uses an AK-47

MP5's are often available only to law enforcement and cost $500-2500

Tec-9/Tec-22, Mac-10/Mac-11 are often used, b/c they are cheap, but they are poorly made. You can pick up a Tec-9/22 for $125-300, not sure about the Macs. They are too heavy and prone to jamming with the wrong types of ammo. Their accuracy is questionable unless you are a pro and equip them with a sight.

Uzi's are often used too, but they are only made in several places on earth. The only place you could pick them up cheap on a large scale would be Israel and the surrounding area. In the US, a full-size UZI would run you $900-3000.

AR-15/M16's are somewhat available in the US, but they have an extremely high price tag, often over $1000. The AR-15 is the civilian model and prone to jamming. If you get mud in either model, you can forget about firing it. The military uses M16's now b/c they have a slight edge in reliability. You can convert an AR-15 to an M16 by swapping some minor parts, but its a felony to do so unless you are a cop or military personnel.

AK-47/Mak-90 is available in hundreds of countries on earth. It's extremely reliable and durable. It fires ammo that is somewhat cheap, and accesories for it are cheap. They were originally made in Russia, but now are made in Russia, China, and many other places. In some countries, like South Africa, they are sold on street corners. Depending on who/what you know, you could get one for $100-650.
 
It's because of its cheap price. For the price of an MP5 or M-16 you can get 2 ak-47 or even 2 ak-74. ALso this riffle is hard like a rock. BUT technically AK-47 is a shitty weapon. High recoil for example. Honestly the best weapon I've ever tried is the C-8 (M-4 Carabine). Being a terrorist i would go such weapon or the MP-5....
 
BeefyBull said:
I thought they didnt let you have guns in Canada, Manny. Haha!

USA's got the right to bear arms LIKE WHAT!

:die:

:shoot:

:destroy:

:kapow:

:smshot:


Humm I thought you would have a clue why , but anyway...... :rolleyes:
 
LOL
the AK47 after the FAL is the rifle that is the most popular
First by the USSR and given to their satelittes around the world, two
it was produced under license from the US to Chile to North Korea.

three, effective weapon, with a reliable design.
not very a precise weapon but in hands of a good soldiers it will be effective

why not the MP5, M16, Mac 10,

The MP5 ( the real ones ) are only sold to Government ( military to police units )
what I mean by real MP5 is not the one that you can buy with a license.
The MP5 is very costly and its operation is complicated.
the M16 is well spread around the world but his cost compared to the AK series is
higher. As for the MAC 10, that weapon is crap, hollywood helped to make that weapon a nice rep but thats all, it is not accurate due to its structure, also very lousy and for some peoples hard to manipulate.

In conlusion

the AK is produced around the world and very cheap, amo are cheap

7.62 russian cost nothing, and since 91, it is way cheaper.

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The_Mexican said:
Much better than the M16 in fact

Dont think so. M16 is a war hero! Very Accurate. The 233 and the 308 are some of the best rounds ever created. You have to keep it clean but make no mistake it is awsome. Ak-47 can be drug through mud and still fire but still cannot compare it to colt m16. JMO
 
Yea, I think the M16 is the best gun. Think about it works the best in all action games. The ak47 is second best gun to use because of its power.

This is probably not relevent ot the conversation but could you imagine trying to the Jungle level on Goldeneye with the AK47 instead of the m16 it would be darn near impossible you need the accuracy of the m16 for a jungle attack.
 
3Vandoo said:
LOL


why not the MP5, M16, Mac 10,

The MP5 ( the real ones ) are only sold to Government ( military to police units )
what I mean by real MP5 is not the one that you can buy with a license.
The MP5 is very costly and its operation is complicated.
the M16 is well spread around the world but his cost compared to the AK series is
higher. As for the MAC 10, that weapon is crap, hollywood helped to make that weapon a nice rep but thats all, it is not accurate due to its structure, also very lousy and for some peoples hard to manipulate.


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also I could mention that you cant compare the stopping power of the 7,62 mm or even the 5,45 mm of the AK-74 with the 9 mm of the MP-5. A miserable body armor will stop it while the ak-47 at a decent range is deadly.....
 
as for the old 5.56 bullet the stopping power was questionned especially during the nam era, but now dont complaint because it will stop a man.

In fact both cart are from a different era, and with different type of conflict.


also the 5.45 russian is still illegal toward the Geneve Convention.

Yeah the old 7.62X39 Russian as a lil bit more stopping power than the SS109 or the
old M series.


;)
 
3Vandoo said:



also the 5.45 russian is still illegal toward the Geneve Convention.



;)

the reason why its illegal is the reason why I would definitely have it in my bag, the dum-dum effect is soooooooo deadly....
 
quest said:
The reason everyone uses the AK47 is simple availability.. There are billions of these weapons in existence right now. Were as NATO has several different weapons system for the different countries USA=M16 France=famas Britain =FAL Britain has a new weapon but I can recall the name at the moment.. All the eastern block countries have one the AK47....

we got rid of the FAL in the 80's

we replaced it with the SA-80 (shoots 5.56)

lovely gun when its working....unreliable....so much so its being widely publicised...they are making modificatons soon to be installed to make them better

light, low recoil, accurate, lots of plastic (so your cheek doesnt get cold when your aiming :) )....
 
SA80 what a piece of shitty weapon, ugly too

I trade some shooting mags with some Royal Irish Ranger in Sierra Leone,

the rest of the guys I was with were working with ( brits ) used the Canadian C7 C8
 
3Vandoo said:
SA80 what a piece of shitty weapon, ugly too

I trade some shooting mags with some Royal Irish Ranger in Sierra Leone,

the rest of the guys I was with were working with ( brits ) used the Canadian C7 C8

it is horrible aint it....it looks tacky with all that plastic...i guess it has some camoflage value, just not much :)

but it is accurate, light and small and not much recoil.....and the sight on top of it as well is lovely (SUSAT)

i never liked the fucking thing, i dont know why the government didnt just buy a shit load of M-16's, half the time our forces ever go anywhere that isnt a nice indoor heated room thats what they will be shown on TV with :)
 
The one I'd like is the Steyr. Heard it was one of the best, almost as good as having a C-8 in your hands......
 
manny78 said:
The one I'd like is the Steyr. Heard it was one of the best, almost as good as having a C-8 in your hands......

said that to 2 Australians
one I helped loading his corpse out of a APC.
 
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