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Why is everyone still afraid of Brovel/Tornel?

chesty

chesty

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I am still amazed at the fear and apprehension and myths that surround these products.

If they were as bad as some make them out to be they would not be selling.

If they were dirty/underdosed (a lot), etc why would people still buy them.

I have used these products quite a lot and have never had a problem.

Things with infections I would attribute to improper sterilization and injection.

As for underdosed. I believe a majority of the claims are unfounded. I have always had good results.
 
I agree. There are people out there that slam Brovel and tell people that they will get an infection because it's dirty. I replied to a post recently from some idiot bitching about bacteria who obviously has never tried their products. True, there are better products out there, but for the money they can't be beat. They are much more cost effective for your average person than buying sust amps would be. between myself and 5 or six of my friends who played college ball with me, none of us ever had a problem. We probably went through 80 bottles. I have never heard of an abcess caused by Brovel products, that's bullshit....Leard to use sterile injection procedures and you won't have a problem.
 
ITS FUCKIN GARBAGE!!!!!! TIJUANA TRASH!!! ONLY REASON THEY ARE STILL SELLING IS BECAUSE YOU CAN GET BOTTLES FOR 10-15$ IN MEX , AND IDIOTS HERE BUY THEM UP LIKE CANDY BECAUSE THERE STILL CHEAP AT A DOMESTIC SOURCE AND THERE IS GREAT TURN AROUND FOR THE DEALER...
 
Why is it garbage, you don't seem to have any diffinitive proof to your claim. And, no you can't buy them for 10-15$ a bottle. Cheapest I have seen personally buying while in Nogalas was 35$ a bottle for T200.

State your proof and back it up.
 
I agree with my Saucy friend. Tornel and Brovel are tijuana trash.
Tornel's test enan gives you crazy side effects, and brovel's
norandren is crap. You need to shoot like twice as much ("miligram" wise)
to get silimar results from real deca.
 
I never had that problem. No sides, didn't need extra shots nothing. It just worked.

could it be some are mexican phobic?
 
chesty said:
I never had that problem. No sides, didn't need extra shots nothing. It just worked.

could it be some are mexican phobic?
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A mexican phobic??....lol No I'm not a mexican phobic.
You just asked my opinion and I gave it. The stuff is crap.
 
NO ... IT COULD BE THE FACT THAT YOU RESPOND VERY WELL TO SMALL DOSAGES OF AS. OR YOU JUST DONT KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE TO DO REAL QUALITY AS. EITHER WAY BROVEL IS FUCKIN TRASH , ALL OF THE BOTTLES I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH HAVE NEVER HAD ANY MORE THAN 8ML. IN THEM AND THE TWO TIMES I HAVE RAN THIS SHIT, I HAVE GOTTEN THE GROSSEST FUCKIN ACNE YOU HAVE EVER SEEN, AND YES I RAN IT THE SECOND TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS THE BROVEL. I HAVE DONE TWO OTHER CYCLES WITHOUT IT AND HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY ACNE FREE.. THIS HAS HAPPEND TO ME AND A GROUP OF PEOPLE I LIFT WITH SO I KNOW ITS NOT JUST ME ... AND PERSONALLY I GET BETTER RESULTS OFF 250MGS OF SUS. THAN 800MGS OF BROVEL TEST.... WANNA KNOW ANYTHING ELSE???

WELL IF YOU DO ILL LET YOU IN ON A LITTLE WELL KNOWN SECRET, BROVEL IS FUCKIN GHETTO ASS REVOLUTION STREET FUCKIN TRASH!!!!!!!
 
Let's see I have used most of the stuff out there from yellow label to most expensive. Why are you shouting?

I just asked for your evidence and you gave it. We each react differently to a substance some favoribley others not so.

I am sure I respond better as I lifted for 18 years before juice.

That was all I was asking for, either personal experience or test data.
 
I have never had any problem with sides either. I prefer the t400 and the Ttokkyo products over Brovel ( infact I don't use Brovel anymore) but I don't see a problem with their products. nothing fancy, just your basic test and deca.If you were on restricted funds, what would you buy, 20 amps of sust for say $300, or for that same price you can get 5 bottles of t200.

What do you think was sold in TJ 3 years ago? The only test down there was Brovel and sust. If it is such a shit product, they never would have sold the quantities that they did.
 
I've used the T200 before, made me break out pretty bad...but that was the only side. :fro:
 
SORRY MAING, DIDNT WANNA MAKE IT SEEM LIKE I WAS SHOUTING , I JUST LIKE TO TYPE IN CAPS, CAUSE THEY LOOK BIGGER :D ..... SO ANYWAYS THERES MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AND WHAT I THINK OF BROVEL.... IF YOU WANT ILL TELL YOU AGIAN:D

LATE
 
I have to agree that Brovel is dirty. I used the T200 for the first two weeks of this cycle and broke out like crazy. I then switched to Primoteston and my gains have been better and not acne.

This is my third test cycle and first with Brovel. Brovel is the only drug to make me break out. I was taking 600mg cyp and 600mg deca with not problems. therefore I have to believe it is the Brovel.
 
I personally dont use many vet or mex products because they are not really available here. We have stuff here that is carried in pharmacies for humans and it is easy enough to get if you have the right connections...

I love using euro gear and even when I am in teh states I only use euro gear... It may be because that is all I ever used or maybe it is something in the back of my mind where I worry about mex products... I know I get scared even with ttokkyo eq...

But then I still use it..
 
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH MOST ON HERE. I TOOK BROVEL FOR MY FIRST TWO CYCLES WHEN THE GAINS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE BEST, GOT NOTHING BUT EIGHT POUNDS WORTH OF CYSTIC ACNE AND GREASY/ BLOTCHY SKIN. MY CYCLES AFTER THAT HAVE BEEN MOSTLY ORGANON GEAR FROM AROUND THE WORLD AND WHAT A DIFFERENCE. IF YOURE GOING TO BUY ANY GEAR IN MEXICO, DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND BUY NOTHING BUT INTRAVET LAURABOLIN AND ORGANON SUST PRELOADS AND PRIMOBOLAN/TESTON. YOU CAN USE 300 REAL MILLIGRAMS OF ORGANON DECA AND GET BETTER RESULTS THAN TAKING 10-12 CC'S A WEEK OF NORANDREN 50 OR OR TORNEL!!! YOU WONT REALIZE HOW SHITTY BROVEL STUFF IS, UNTIL YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE ORGANON!!
 
I personally don't like it. I bought my T-200 for $12 a bottle in TJ. My skin got all red and tender around the injection site, and the stuff made me feel sick. I confirmed it's legitimacy with 3 of the board's moderaters, and each bottle was underfilled by 2 cc's.
I agree with you, Chesty, on how different people react to different products.
For me, T-200, and nor-200, aren't worth the label that's printed on them.
I wouldn't use it again.
Even if someone said they've made great improvements since I tried them a year ago...
It's like if your neighbor shot you in the leg... even if he went to counceling... you wouldn't trust the sucker ever again.
My opinion.
 
I've used Brovel many times and have been pleased each time. I did get a little acne but also made very good gains. BTW the worst acne i've ever gotten was from Denkall's ultragan 100. However Denkall has excellent products. So I guess different people react differently to the same AS. Overall I would reccomend Brovel because it's cost effective and i've always made quality gains.
 
Tornell and Brovel

I wouldn't put them in the same category as Ttokkyo and Denkall at all obviously but they do have their place in the market. People use them and grow thats the bottome line. The cost issue probably is a big factor as well.
 
I just took some Brovel enanthate today. I've gotten pretty good gains from their stuff, but I do have friends that didn't gain shit from it or the Tornel stuff. Underdosed? Probably so, but if you react good to small amounts, it seems to be the best way to save money.

stretch
 
Not scared of it. Just would prefer not to use it. And why would you if you have access to human grade pharmaceuticals? I'd rather have piece of mind knowing what's in the bottle than saving a few bucks...
 
I can't speak about their other products, but I did a cycle recently of nora 200 (first deca cycle) and was pretty happy with the results. I put on about 15-20 lbs. I took about 2.5 cc's to compensate for any under-dosing. I've been on the last of it for 3 weeks now and I'm out, so I'm heading to tj this week to get some ttokkyo. If brovel is that shitty then hopefully i'll react a lot better to the ttokkyo.
 
chesty said:
I am still amazed at the fear and apprehension and myths that surround these products.

If they were as bad as some make them out to be they would not be selling.

If they were dirty/underdosed (a lot), etc why would people still buy them.

I have used these products quite a lot and have never had a problem.

Things with infections I would attribute to improper sterilization and injection.

As for underdosed. I believe a majority of the claims are unfounded. I have always had good results.
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People fail to realize that if these were so dirty lots more people would have abcesses.
I think that Tornel is much better than Brovel, although it is said that Brovel is getting their act togther as far as quality goes.
Tornel is actually cheaper also. I feel that they should do a better job with the labels-they are NEVER fully glued and secured. If they are then they were done so by the purchaser or they are faked-try telling that to someone
 
i have used both with no side affects like some bro's on here. I will say that the strenght was not what i expected but it was good enough. As far as being dirty and sores around the injection site---never had a problem....thats my .02.......
 
i have used both brovel and tornal products and i had no out of the ordinary side effects of taking any other test or nor. i love the shit. it is cheap and it works. i have not seen any bottle underfilled by more then .5-1cc .. it is so cheap it dont make a difference to me anyway.
 
i love the brovel t-200. its my first cycle and im in the the middle of week 4 and up 29 pounds. a little fat but not to much i havent had any problems with this stuff and so far i love it
 
I have used 3 vials of tornel t200 and 2 of brovel t50 in the last year. never NEVER had any problems, nor complaints on the quality of gains I got.

saucy, cool it with caps, i dont even bother reading your posts when they are written like a four year old...
 
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