Why is deca so damn good for the joints??

[Mike P.T.]

Ok I remember Huck had written something along the lines that it's anti-cortisol on the joints<-(correct me if im wrong Huck) but I would think that all steroids would have this effect to some degree. Why is it that deca is so good for the joints compared to the others?? In the past, when I had wrist problems that persisted, deca healed it. I know it was the deca too because rest wasn't good enough. Sure enough took 200mg at the time and by the time of my 3rd shot the pain was gone. This is all while training it too. With lighter exercises yes but still. Some might argue that it was active rest that contributed to this through increased blood flow and therefore increased recuperation of the muscle. That wasn't the case because I had actually done that prior to complete rest and still had pains. Deca fixed it. Then about a year later I developed a little elbow problems from all my heavy lifting that wouldn't go away. I immediately got some deca and did 600mg for the first week so I just continued with my spontaneous cycle at 600mg a week. Yeah a deca only cycle. That was in the past no flames guys. Again, pain went away. Now fast forward to now. Slight problems with the left delt that was persisting. Mind you im also on sus and a light dose of d-bol. Did that heal it?? No. Frontloaded with 600mg of deca. It's been about a week. Pain is gone and that's even while working out!! Maybe it's all in my head but I mean deca has been known to heal joints in people and time and time again it's done well for me. Just wanted to share this and also ask what is so special about this for the joints??

BTW- I always preferred eq over deca. I think now though im gonna have some deca thrown in there for every cycle just for good measure. Progesterone like side's in terms of gyno have never been a problem for me anyway.

 

[frorider6]

The joint benefits are EXACTLY why I want to run a low dose of deca with my next cycle (probably in the fall). I am concerned about the gyno sides though as I seem sensitive to Fina. Any of you know if Bromo (which I'm going to start soon) would help with deca sides?

 

[Mike P.T.]

The joint benefits are EXACTLY why I want to run a low dose of deca with my next cycle (probably in the fall). I am concerned about the gyno sides though as I seem sensitive to Fina. Any of you know if Bromo (which I'm going to start soon) would help with deca sides?

Bro for DECA's sides try adding some winny or even proviron. Proviron??? Some of you may say. It's been known that dht based drugs and it's derivatives like winstrol have been shown to be anti-progesteronic.

Im not sure about the bromo. Never used it although I have good things about it. I'll see what everyone else says. But seriously bro, deca is great for the joints. I call it the poor man's G.H. hehehe

 

[frorider6]

Bro for DECA's sides try adding some winny or even proviron. Proviron??? Some of you may say. It's been known that dht based drugs and it's derivatives like winstrol have been shown to be anti-progesteronic.

Im not sure about the bromo. Never used it although I have good things about it. I'll see what everyone else says. But seriously bro, deca is great for the joints. I call it the poor man's G.H. hehehe

Well, I'm on 50 mg Proviron with my Fina and it didn't help.

Debating my next cycle (for the fall so lots of time)
40 mg Ox ED 250 mg test/week
30 mg Ox ED 250 mg test/week deca 200 mg/week
250 mg test/week deca 200 mg/week
etc.

 

[Mike P.T.]

Well, I'm on 50 mg Proviron with my Fina and it didn't help.

Debating my next cycle (for the fall so lots of time)
40 mg Ox ED 250 mg test/week
30 mg Ox ED 250 mg test/week deca 200 mg/week
250 mg test/week deca 200 mg/week
etc.

How many cycles have you done previously and how long is the upcoming cycle going to last?? Im pretty sure I read a thread by zyg stating why winny isn't good against fina. Due to fina's stronger progesteronic binding activity within the receptor than winny's. I would think deca is weaker in regards to this but it's always good to be on the safe side. How much fina were you running previously?

 

[frorider6]

Currently on Fina 37.5 mg ED and Proviron 50 mg ED.

I started off on Fina 75 mg ED and got sore puffy nips in 5 days. Stopped the Fina, let nips return to normal (a couple of days), restarted at 37.5 mg EOD for 6 days. Then went to 37.5 mg ED. Been on that 18 days and have noticed slightly puffy nips. My bromo should be here today though so I'm going to try that at 1.25 mg ED at first.

Previous cycle (my first) was D-Bol 30 mg ED and sust 500 mg/week. I hated that cycle. After 2 weeks the D0Bols had me so sick I couldn't eat and the sust gave me fevers and HUGE injections pain. Only gained 9 lbs total on the cycle. I think I kept 7.

I want to run a long low dose cycle in the fall/winter after I get done with all my Army training. I'll want to regain a lot of muscle that I'm sure I'll lose and maybe toss in some deca for my joints.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

I had the same experience with my elbow. Nothing else fixed it. Massage, ART, time off, etc...

 

[Mike P.T.]

Well good luck bro and keep me posted on your experience with the bromo. Damn sus and d-bol didn't work for you ehh. I love the stuff. Oh well everyone is different.

 

[frorider6]

You guys really are talking me into the deca.

 

[Mike P.T.]

You guys really are talking me into the deca.

DEEEEEECCCAAAAAAA........... o0o0o0o0o0o0o

 

[frorider6]

Well good luck bro and keep me posted on your experience with the bromo. Damn sus and d-bol didn't work for you ehh. I love the stuff. Oh well everyone is different.

Everyone suggested that cycle as a good newbie cycle. But after taking it, and learning more about gear, I'm a big advocate of low dose cycles now. I've gained 9 lbs in 2 weeks off my Fina (11 if you count the 2 I gained initially off my 5 day 75 mg start) and think it's more than enough.

I truely wish I would have had access to the generic Ox to start with and had done 40 mg Ox for 7 or so weeks for my first cycle. If not Ox, I wish I'd gone with 250-300 mg test (not sust) and 200 mg deca.


Oh yeah, I'll keep everyone posted on my experience with the Bromo. I owe this place so much that I try to give back to the board as much as I can.

 

[el cubano]

Hey Mike, since you know some of my medical past now I'll let you know what my doctor said to me about nandrolone deconate.

After my last surgery, when I began PT I asked my orthopedic surgeon if he could prescribe me some nandrolone deconate to help lube the joints. He looked at me like I was crazy. He said that he's never heard of that before and who ever told me that was lying.

Well, right now I'm on Spectro Labs nandrolone and I love it. My joints feel great. I think he was wrong, but oh well. He's the one getting paid the big bucks!

 

[Mike P.T.]

Hey Mike, since you know some of my medical past now I'll let you know what my doctor said to me about nandrolone deconate.

After my last surgery, when I began PT I asked my orthopedic surgeon if he could prescribe me some nandrolone deconate to help lube the joints. He looked at me like I was crazy. He said that he's never heard of that before and who ever told me that was lying.

Well, right now I'm on Spectro Labs nandrolone and I love it. My joints feel great. I think he was wrong, but oh well. He's the one getting paid the big bucks!

MOST doctors don't know shit about steroids. Except for the minor basics of course. Hehehe well good luck with the shoulder bro. Hope everything works out.

 

[MadCow1]

Deca helped heal my dislocated shoulder. It fell out of the socket on it's own for about two months - kept it immobilized and everything. Couldn't run, jog, or laugh hard no less lift.

After 2 weeks at 200mg it went from 50% (estimate at beginning) to 80% and I was lifting nicely and just babying it through a few exercises. By week 4 it was 95% - lifing like a beast again - the remaining 5% healed itself over the next 4 months.

People may talk shit about it but I like to have it on hand just in case and I have yet to find any orthopedist using it. Why? Does no one know how good it is? I know prof. team docs must use it extensively (providing no drug testing).

 

[Jordaz]

What is the best dosage for just lube'n the joints? 100mgs to 200mgs? I want to use some deca with my winny/test/liquidex cutting cycle to help with joint pain. I worrieed about to much water with the deca thrown in.
Jz

 

[Mike P.T.]

What is the best dosage for just lube'n the joints? 100mgs to 200mgs? I want to use some deca with my winny/test/liquidex cutting cycle to help with joint pain. I worrieed about to much water with the deca thrown in.
Jz

200mg a week should be fine. If not up to 300mg a week for this purpose. BTW- With the winny and liquidex thrown in there. Don't worry about the water.

 

[Jordaz]

Thanx Mike P.T.! I was going to use T200 at 2cc's a week. I'm thinking about t-50 now. Are EOD injections ok to do with prop? I dont want to become swiss cheese. I have never used prop.
JZ

 

[Mike P.T.]

Thanx Mike P.T.! I was going to use T200 at 2cc's a week. I'm thinking about t-50 now. Are EOD injections ok to do with prop? I dont want to become swiss cheese. I have never used prop.
JZ

Wait, you know you're talking about test now right?? Hehehe just making sure. Yeah eod is fine with prop.

 

[Mike P.T.]

Thanx Mike P.T.! I was going to use T200 at 2cc's a week. I'm thinking about t-50 now. Are EOD injections ok to do with prop? I dont want to become swiss cheese. I have never used prop.
JZ

Wait, you know you're talking about test now right?? Hehehe just making sure. Yeah eod is fine with prop.

 

[Mike P.T.]

Dammit it came up twice and I couldn't delete it.

 

[MadCow1]

Dammit it came up twice and I couldn't delete it.

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[Mike P.T.]

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