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Why Glucorell R by DrMatt & Glucorell R is now available in 240ct size

Animal said:
Really?
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yes ... Really.

MaPK is not the sole arbiter of fat loss. suppression of insulin, which caffiene and other stims cause the release of, is as perhaps more important to lipolysis.

the system that was used is one without external stimuli other than lipoic.

and in point of fact since he is taking glucorell, its a complete non-issue.


100mg is sufficient to achieve inhibitory MaPK action
 
Animal said:
Wow! I guess there were pretty tough questions!
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No, not really. If you would learn how to read and absorb information you would have realized that these questions have already been asked and answered. The more I read your banter the more I realize that you are a useless waste of air. That's right, waste of air! Now go back to your hole!
 
ulter, you're okay....I don't care what GS says about ya.
 
DUDE...I just got my 120ct bottle two days ago! And I missed the reduced price..DOH!!!
 
Re: Glucorell R is now available in 240ct size

ulter said:
The price of the 240 count bottle is $39 with the afdiscount coupon.
PRICE DROP on the 120 count from $24 to $22 per bottle with the afdiscount coupon.

PUT IN THE DISCOUNT CODE AND THEN CLICK "GO" THEN SELECT THE SIZE YOU WANT AND ADD TO CART.
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Oh baby...I think I'm in heaven. I go through a 12-pack in about 6 weeks.

Fonz
 
Re: Glucorell R is now available in 240ct size

ulter said:
The price of the 240 count bottle is $39 with the afdiscount coupon.
PRICE DROP on the 120 count from $24 to $22 per bottle with the afdiscount coupon.

PUT IN THE DISCOUNT CODE AND THEN CLICK "GO" THEN SELECT THE SIZE YOU WANT AND ADD TO CART.
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and my price is what... Free.. oh you kind man you..LOL

Great product people
 
My order is in! Don't be bashful, throw some freebies in there. I won't be offended.............honestly.
 
Re: Why Glucorell R by DrMatt

I have noticed that if I take 300mg about 15-20 minutes before my usual fast food lunch I don't get sleepy 1 1/2-2 hrs later like I normally do.
 
Re: Why Glucorell R by DrMatt

BigAndy69 said:
Great stuff Dr M, great asset to the board.
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BigAndy, I have e-mail from you many months ago where you say that ALA/R-ALA are garbage/hype.

Do you have an experience to share that changed your mind about this?


Thanks!
 
Re: Why Glucorell R by DrMatt

xonic2xonic2 said:
BigAndy, I have e-mail from you many months ago where you say that ALA/R-ALA are garbage/hype.

Do you have an experience to share that changed your mind about this?


Thanks!
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You only have one email? I have about 300 from people all over the world. On top of that I spent over a year reading posts about why r-ALA was all hype. Funny how things change over time once people try it for themselves. Over 4000 people just from the boards alone have purchased Glucorell R a second time after seeing it work for themselves.
 
LOL!

OK let me get this straight:

a) If I take Glucorell R on an empty stomach/carb depleted/lowish blood sugar, then I should get a lower blood suger reading on the glucometer than I would if I did not take anything, in fact, I should be near hypogycemic? Can you actually go hypo on R-ALA?

b) If I take Glucorell R immediatly prior to a high (complex) carb meal then i should expect dramatically reduced blood sugar level readings on the glucometer than would be expected without taking anything.

Correct?

Thanks!
 
Thanks for the reply and furthermore for the more detailed ones in PM previously!

I still cannot get any of your prods here in Canada correct? It's too bad you don't have some sort of remailer operation as something like R-ALA should/would not have any customs issues.
 
Cool! Their site totally blows though LOL, maybe the will trade me some t-rex to redo it. At $55 USD / 90 caps I am hoping they will take the afdiscount code heh.
 
15 minutes before my workout i mux a shake with 60g whey - 60g dextrose - 60g maltodextrine. i drink half of this, then drink the second half right after my workout.

Should i take some R-ALA to any of these?

Is there a point to taking R-ALA to ALL carb meals (i have 8 a day) eventhough they are in the 30-50g range?
 
yeah i eat every other hour, so its pretty close togheter. ill try to figure out some kinda smart way of splitting it up.

and my workout is done in 20 minutes, except if i throw in some cardio as well :)
 
If I understand it correctly, Dr. M gathered all that info and Ulter posted it? Either way, good read, very well organized!! Good job guys!!

Hell, I even understood it all on one read. ;-)

Whiskey
 
This whole thing is giving me flashbacks of Bill Phillips. I am sure the product is good and all, but this is exactly how Bill used to give reference to Universities medical studies. Show me some medical studies on the product at hand, not the study on insulin resistance and fat deposit. I guess I will know the truth once I try it.
 
Excellent Read!

Quick questionundefined:
My objective is to lean up and lose 10-15 lbs. and lower my bf from 14%-10%.

I am currently taking thermorexin; should I also add Glucorell or will that be somewhat redundant?

Thanks for your insight.

Mike in Houston
 
thanks ulter. much appreciated.

also, i have a couple of questions for you offline--can you forward me your e-mail address and I will respond?

Mike
 
You Canucks need to start hounding Health Canada to start allowing EF products to come through. Being liberals, Canadian Government officials always given in to people who bitch the most. If no one says anything, or starts organizing -- they won't do squat. It'll save money for everyone in the long run.
 
would glucorell r work the same with the carbs in a beer? should i take it before going out to have a couple like you would before s big carb meal?
 
ulter said:
Glucorell R is legal in CN.
Yohimburn DF yes
Yohimburn ES no
Thermorexin NO
Liporexin NO
P7 no
Tyler Liver Detox no? (can't figure this one out.)

Most of the products we carry that we aren't allowed to ship CN are at www.organic-health.com. They are in BC.
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Ingredients: Tyler liver Detox

N-Acetyl-Cysteine 200 mg . .
L-Glutamine (Reduced) 50 mg . .
Coenzyme Q-10 25 mg . .
Beta Carotene 15,000 IU . .
Vitamin E 250 IU . .
Vitamin C (Magnesium Acsorbate) 500 mg . .
Selenium 200 mcg . .
Superoxide Dismutase 100 mcg . .
Catalase 50 mcg . .
Quercetin 200 mg . .
Proanthocyanidins (Grape Seed Extract) 10 mg . .
Silybum marianum 50 mg . .
Calcium D-Glucarate 200 mg . .
L-Methionine 200 mg . .
L-Glycine 200 mg . .
Choline 200 mg . .
Inositol 100 mg . .
L-Ornithine-L-Aspartate 100 mg . .
L-Serine 50 mg . .
L-Histidine 50 mg . .
L-Carnitine (Tartrate) 50 mg . .
Broccoli Extract (0.7% Total Sulfur) 100 mg . .
Vitamin B-1 (Thiamine Pyrophosphate) 10 mg . .
Vitamin B-1 (Thiamine HCl) 15 mg . .
Vitamin B-2 (Riboflavin 5' Phosphate) 25 mg . .
Vitamin B-3 (Niacin) 30 mg . .
Vitamin B-5 (Calcium pantothenate 100 mg . .
Vitamin B-6 (Pyridoxal 5' Phosphate) 30 mg . .
Vitamin B-12 (Cyanocobalamin) 100 mcg . .
Coenzyme B-12 (5' Deoxyadenosylcobalamin) 25 mcg . .
Folic acid 600 mcg . .
Biotin 200 mcg . .
Vitamin A 5000 IU . .
Magnesium (Citrate, Malate, Ascorbate) 235 mg . .
Zinc (picolinate) 30 mg . .
Copper (Sebicate) 2 mg . .
Molybdenum (Citrate) 150 mcg . .
Manganese (Glycinate) 10 mg


The ingredients in bold are non modified single amino acids. Health Canada does not allow them in.
 
glucorell R is the only r+ lipoic that is properly tested, other than labiochem (which does not sell in the USA). The method, developed by NMRservices (home to two nobel prize winners) is more accurate than that of labiochem (though only somewhat).

every batch is independantly tested by at least one and usually two independant labs
 
macrophage69alpha said:
glucorell R is the only r+ lipoic that is properly tested, other than labiochem (which does not sell in the USA). The method, developed by NMRservices (home to two nobel prize winners) is more accurate than that of labiochem (though only somewhat).

every batch is independantly tested by at least one and usually two independant labs
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Where can I see the results to these tests?

Also when you ship R-ALA in the summer do you take extra steps to keep it cool?
 
got mine yesterday, mang....back in bidness. Now I just need to start buying more than 1-2 bottles at a time.
 
I need two more bottles.
 
I might call her just to say I talked to a chick named Ursula.
 
I still don't understand why a steroid user would need r-ALA if steroids themselves increase insulin sensitivity.
 
What? Over time? Or depending on how gear is used? I know plenty of Vets that have been on gear for many years and rarely come off and they look fucking great! And I have asked them about insulin insensitivity during steroid use and they all told me that they have no problem with this matter. Ok! What about the pros? Your telling me that they are all insulin insensitive?
 
ulter said:
Oh yeah, here it is. Read RR
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Thanks bro, I already read this *sigh* entire thread about three times. Hehe.

I'm just trying to figure out at what times I should take it for maximum benefits.

Having worked out seriously for three years, its time I took individualisation seriously.


"Those who tell you that your nutrition needs are the same as the next man's, have no appreciation of the scale of genetic individuality. Without such an appreciation, they have no understanding of the nutrition needs of anyone."
 
OMEGA said:
Russian bumping is valuable becasue every month these boards gets alot of new members

who don't know about these supps, or about the nuances with them

I get Pm's or emails all the time asking what VolumeDNA or EnerG is :)

so pushing a thread up, is a good way to educate
:rose: :coffee:
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;)
 
ulter

whats your opinion of the new study on ALA's by Life Extension Foundation (www.lef.org)? its not online yet, but its in the feb 2005 issue of the mag that just mailed.

it says the optimal form of ALA is R-dihydro-lipoic acid (R-DHLA ), which I guess means they're about to launch an R-DHLA product.
 
Seems like they already are geoboy.
"R"-Dihydro-Lipoic Acid 150mg, 60 liquid caps
Provides far more boilogically active lipoic acid than our previous product, but costs only a few dollars more. $24.30 (four-bottle purchase)

I have the magazine, six page write up on R-DHLA.
 
I scanned this and only quickly touched it up.

February 2005 LIFE EXTENSION

R-Dihydro-Lipoic Acid
The Optimal Form of Lipoic Acid
By Jim English
Groundbreaking Research Shows That the Natural Biologically Active

Form of Lipoic Acid Provides Optimal Antioxidant Protection
E exciting new research links certain antioxidants to enhanced mitochondria) energy production. This finding is changing the way scientists view the interactions of damaging free radicals and beneficial antioxidants. Among the discoveries produced by this research are the disease-fighting proper
ties of R-dihydro-lipoic acid (R-DHLA), a powerful antioxidant that is critically involved in cellular metabolism. Recent studies suggest that R-dihydro-lipoic acid may help prevent mitochondria) decay, diabetes, Alzheimer's disease, atherosclerosis, and other disorders associated with aging.
Antioxidants are known to play a vital role in preventing many of the health disorders associated with aging, including degenerative diseases such as diabetes, Alzheimer's disease, and cardiovascular disease.
Medical researchers continue to discover new antioxidant compounds as well as new applications for these protective nutrients. A vitamin-like substance known as alpha-lipoic acid is now at the forefront of antioxidant research. Alpha-lipoic acid was first introduced as a supplement in the late 1990s. Researchers are uncovering new applications to add to the already impressive list of therapeutic uses for alpha-lipoic acid.
A newly available version of alpha-lipoic acid, called R-dihydrolipoic acid (R-DHLA), has been shown to offer substantially greater antioxidant and neuroprotective benefits than previous versions of
alpha-lipoic acid.

Actions of Alpha-Lipoic Acid
Medical researchers initially classified alpha-lipoic acid, which was virtually unknown until the 1930s, as a new vitamin. Alphalipoic acid eventually was recognized as an essential coenzyme, following the discovery that it is naturally synthesized in tissues and plays a vital role in mitochondria) electron transport reactions required for metabolizing glucose into adenosine triphosphate (ATP) for cellular energy production.'
By 1988, alpha-lipoic acid had been revealed as a powerful biological antioxidant, exhibiting a potential to quench free radicals equal to that of coenzyme Q10 (CoQ10) and vitamins C and E.' Researchers also discovered that alpha-lipoic acid is unique in being the only antioxidant known to work in both fat- and water-soluble tissues. By contrast,
the actions of vitamin C (ascorbic acid) are restricted to watery (aqueous) tissues, while the actions of vitamin E, which is soluble only in fat, are restricted to fatty tissues and cellular membranes.
This dual-acting ability allows alpha-lipoic acid to be easily transported across cellular membranes
to neutralize free radicals in both interior and exterior cellular structures, leading researchers to refer to alpha-lipoic acid as the "universal antioxidant." According to Lester Packer, PhD, professor of molecular biology at the University of California, Berkeley, alphalipoic acid "could have far-reaching consequences in the search for prevention and therapy of chronic degenerative diseases ..."'

Recycling Vitamins C and E
To understand how alpha-lipoic acid and R-dihydro-lipoic acid work against various degenerative disorders, it is first necessary to understand how these compounds work in the body-specifically, how they interact chemically with other critical antioxidants such as glutathione and vitamins C and E to combat harmful reactive oxygen species.
Human aging is marked by a sharp decline in the concentration,
synthesis, and recycling of central antioxidants such as vitamins C and E, CoQ10, and glutathione. This loss of antioxidant function reduces the body's ability to protect tissues from highly reactive free radicals. Left unchecked, free radical proliferation leads to increased oxidative damage to DNA strands, cell membranes, mitochondria, and organs. Over time, the cumulative effects of free radical damage can result in impaired immune function and increased incidence of cancers and degenerative diseases. In recent years, one of the leading breakthroughs in antioxidant research is an understanding of how alphalipoic acid recycles vitamins E and C to help control free radical damage.
Vitamin E is a potent biological antioxidant and a central component of the antioxidant cycle. Vitamin E protects fatty tissues, primarily cellular membranes, by quenching free radicals such as lipid peroxyl and lipid alkoxyl radicals. By donating an electron to pair up unpaired electrons present in lipid radicals, vitamin E is transformed into its oxidized form. The oxidized vitamin E then interacts with vitamin C by accepting one of vitamin C's electrons. The process continues as vitamin C, in its oxidized form as dehydroascorbic
acid, accepts an electron from glutathione. Glutathione is in turn recycled by reduced nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide phosphate (NADPH). It is at this point in the cycle, however. that the body's antioxidant complex runs into a limiting factor determined by the availability of glutathione.
The Missing Link: Alpha-Lipoic Acid
Glutathione is one of the body's most important intracellular antioxidants. In addition to playing a central role in quenching free radicals, glutathione protects against cataract formation, enhances immune function, prevents liver damage, slows the initiation of cancers, and aids in the elimination of heavy metals. Glutathione levels can quickly be depleted when the body is exposed to high levels of oxidative stress during times of illness, infection, trauma. or surgery. Glutathione deficiency is also seen in cases of low protein intake, diabetes, liver disease. cataracts, HIV infection, respiratory distress syndrome, cancer, and idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis, along with other conditions that produce oxidative stress.
When researchers sought ways to increase cellular glutathione levels, they encountered a problem. Normally, cellular glutathione is produced only in the body. When taken orally, glutathione is largely broken down in the stomach, resulting in modest serum increases in glutathione but almost no change in intracellular levels of glutathione.
Dr. Packer and other researchers at UC-Berkeley have spent almost four decades studying glutathione and antioxidant recycling. Despite a detailed understanding of the antioxidant regeneration cycle, Dr. Packer ran into the same problem
that had stymied other researchers when attempting to increase cellular glutathione levels. This problem was finally solved when he began working with alpha-lipoic acid, which, according to Dr. Packer, proved to be the missing link.' (Editor's note: The real problem was found to be that the amino acid building blocks of glutathione could not be transported across age-damaged cell membranes, and intracellular glutathione levels decline with age.)
Packer and his team discovered that, in addition to being a powerful biological antioxidant, alpha-lipoic acid, when administered orally. quickly crosses cellular membranes to enter cells where it is rapidly converted into its reduced form. Rdihydro-lipoic acid (R-DHLA).
It was later discovered that it makes more sense to take R-dihvdro-lipoic acid directly because it is immediately usable, as the body does not have to convert it from alpha-lipoic acid. In addition, the synthetic form of alpha-lipoic acid used in the older studies is a mixture of right-handed and left-handed molecules. Only the right-handed R- portion of alpha-lipoic acid is biologically active.
Alpha-lipoic acid, and especially R-dihydro-lipoic acid, is effective against hydroxyl radicals, peroxynitrite hydrogen peroxide, and hypochlorite. In addition, alphalipoic acid has been shown to regenerate and elevate intracellular glutathione levels, thereby participating in the recycling of the antioxidant complex."
Initial research revealed that, in addition to conferring general health benefits like other antioxidant supplements, alpha-lipoic acid possesses properties that can be helpful in managing a wide range of diseases. According to Dr. Packer. 'Alpha-lipoic acid could have farreaching consequences in the
search for prevention and therapy of chronic degenerative diseases such as diabetes and cardiovascular disease. and because it's the only antioxidant that can easily get into the brain, it could he useful in preventing damage from a stroke."'
Alpha-Lipoic Acid's Effects on Diabetes
Alpha-lipoic acid has been shown to he particularly helpful for conditions arising from diabetes, and has been used in Europe for over 30 years for diabetic complications caused by overproduction of reactive oxygen species and nitrogen radicals." Alpha-lipoic acid has also been shown to aid in increasing glucose uptake in skeletal muscles, as well as in enhancing insulin-stimulated glucose disposal.-'
Alpha-lipoic acid has proven especially effective in treating diabetes-related neuropathy, the functional or pathological changes in the peripheral nervous system that can include palls, tingling, or sensory abnormalities. In one study. German scientists tested a group of 80 diabetic patients who were randomly assigned to four groups of 20
patients each. Each group received alpha-lipoic acid, selenium, vitamin E. or placebo. After three months, the researchers found that treatment with 600 mg of alpha-lipoic acid daily resulted in significant improvements in two markers of diabetes (thiobarbituric acid reactive substances and urinary albumin excretion rates). The researchers also noted significant improvements in neuropathy, leading them to conclude that alpha-lipoic acid was effective in reducing late diabetic complications."
In a second study. 328 noninsulin-dependent diabetic patients diagnosed with symptomatic peripheral neuropathy (causing pain, burning, or numbness) were treated either with alpha-lipoic acid or placebo. At the study's end, pain scores had declined significantly in the group treated with alpha-lipoic acid, leading researchers to conclude that alpha-lipoic acid was effective in reducing symptoms of diabetic peripheral neuropathy, without side effects.',,

Actions Against HIV/AIDS
Acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS) results from infection with the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV-1). Certain regions of HIV-1 DNA contain binding sites for nuclear factorkappa beta, a transcriptional activator with a major role in the regulation of HIV-1 gene expression. Research has shown that alphalipoic acid inhibits the replication of HIV-1 and other viruses by blocking reactive oxygen species used in signal transduction pathways that lead to activation of nuclear factor-kappa beta. Dr. Packer and his colleagues theorized that alpha-lipoic acid, by eliminating reactive oxygen species, may prevent activation of nuclear factor-kappa beta and subsequently
halt HIV transcription." When Dr. Packer and his team tested their theory by exposing cells to alpha-lipoic acid, they discovered that alpha-lipoic acid was able to completely inhibit nuclear factorkappa beta to block activation of the gene sequence that allows the AIDS virus to reproduce. These results, the authors suggested, "indicate that alpha-lipoic acid may be effective in AIDS therapeutics."
In a related finding, when Japanese researchers exposed cells infected with HIV-1 to alpha-lipoic acid, "initiation of HIV-1 induction by [tumor necrosis factor-alpha] was completely abolished." The scientists concluded that their findings confirm "the efficacy of alphalipoic acid as a therapeutic regimen for HIV infection and [AIDS].""
Synthetic vs. Natural Lipoic Acid
Natural alpha-lipoic acid, or Rlipoic acid, is present in exceedingly tiny amounts in, and tightly bound to, mitochondrial complexes in animal and plant tissues. Because of the extreme difficulty and high cost of isolating natural Rlipoic acid, early studies were conducted with synthetic alpha-lipoic acid. Unlike R-lipoic acid, synthetic lipoic acid comprises a fifty-fifty mixture of two forms of alphalipoic acid: R-lipoic acid and Slipoic acid. The R- and S- forms of alpha-lipoic acid are isomersidentical chemical structures, with the three-dimensional atomic arrangements reversed to form mirror images of each other.
Initial studies with synthetic alpha-lipoic acid helped scientists to understand its antioxidant-recycling and energy-production properties. When pure samples of the natural R- form of lipoic acid version became available, however,
researchers quickly discovered that the body has a strong preference for R-lipoic acid. German researchers reported that. unlike the natural R-lipoic acid, synthetic lipoic acid does not improve ATP synthesis in isolated cells. Furthermore, whereas the natural R- form was shown to increase membrane fluidity and transport, the synthetic form was far less effective in doing so.''
Continuing experimentation revealed that R-lipoic acid is more biologically active and offers greater antioxidant and neuroprotective benefits at substantially lower doses than the synthetic forms of lipoic acid. This became apparent when researchers compared the effects of natural and synthetic lipoic acid in the prevention of cataracts. Half of all healthy adults over 65 will eventually develop cataracts, an opacity of the eye lens that can cause vision impairment or blindness. For those with diabetes, the odds of developing cataracts are substantially higher, as eye lenses are especially susceptible to damage from elevated glucose levels. Researchers have found that R-lipoic acid may aid in preventing cataracts and their complications by increasing levels of glutathione, ascorbate, vitamin E, and certain protective enzymes in
lens tissues.
In one study, researchers
induced cataracts by incubating rat
lenses in Glucose to mimic the dam
aging processes seen in diabetes. R
lipoic acid was shown to be highly
effective in preventing cataract for
mation, while synthetic lipoic acid
was only half as effective at pro
tecting lens cells." In a follow-up
study, when eye lenses were
exposed to either R-lipoic or syn
thetic lipoic acid, glutathione con
centrations in the lenses incubated
with the natural form were signifi
cantly higher than those incubated
with the synthetic form. These data
A Better Form of R-Lipoic Acid
showed that R-lipoic acid was more effective in maintaining glutathione levels and protecting the lens from damage.''
R-Lipoic Acid May Boost Brain Function
Age-related declines in physical activity and mental function are partly the result of a drop in mitochondrial energy production. Mitochondria are known to lose efficiency with age due to the oxidation of proteins, lipids, DNA, and RNA."' Researchers led by Bruce Ames, PhD, professor of biochemistry and molecular biology at the University of California, Berkeley, have shown that the agerelated decay of mitochondrial function can be partially reversed in older animals following treatment with R-lipoic acid or a combination of R-lipoic acid and acetyl-L-carnitine. In their study, older rats receiving either Rlipoic acid or a combination of Rlipoic acid and acetyl-L-carnitine showed signs of reduced lipid peroxidation and improved memory.'
Over time, oxidative stress in brain cells damages mitochondria, proteins, and nucleic acids,
particularly in the region of the hippocampus. Left unchecked, these changes can contribute to impaired memory and loss of cognitive functions. In a groundbreaking study designed to mimic age-related loss of cognitive function and memory in humans, Dr. Ames and his colleagues treated older rats with either R-lipoic acid or a combination of R-lipoic acid and acetyl-L-carnitine. Dietary supplementation with Rlipoic acid and/or acetyl-L-carnitine was shown to significantly improve both spatial and temporal memory performance. Additionally, both R-lipoic acid and R-lipoic acid/acetyl-L-carnitine were found to significantly reduce the extent of oxidized RNA. Follow-up electron microscopic studies in the hippocampus showed that R-lipoic acid and R-lipoic acid/acetyl-L-carnitine reversed age-associated mitochondrial structural decay. The study results suggest that R-lipoic acid, either alone or in combination with acetyl-L-carnitine, may aid in lowering oxidative damage and improving mitochondrial function, thus improving memory and cognitive functions in aging humans."
In the body, alpha-lipoic acid occurs in two forms: R-lipoic acid and R-dihydro-lipoic acid (RDHLA). The two make up a "redox couple." Oxidation reduction (redox reactions) involves the transfer of an electron from a donor to an acceptor. When the donor loses an electron, it is transformed from its reduced form to its oxidized form: conversely, when an acceptor gains an electron, it changes from its oxidized form to its reduced form. Together, the oxidized and reduced forms of a redox component are said to form a redox couple.
In the case of R-lipoic acid. when it donates an electron to Rdihydro-lipoic acid, the R-dihydrolipoic acid is oxidized back into Rlipoic acid, and the R-lipoic acid is then reduced back into R-dihydrolipoic acid. As the two forms swap electrons, they rapidly convert. Many of the properties of lipoic acid depend on this ability to rapidly swap electrons, and most health benefits are observed regardless of which form is used. As always, however, there are important exceptions.
R-Dihydro-Lipoic Acid's Unique Effects
As researchers continued to study lipoic acid, they discovered that R-dihydro-lipoic acid exerts a number of antioxidant and neuroprotective actions that are not seen with alpha-lipoic acid. One important difference is that while both alpha-lipoic acid and R-dihydro-lipoic acid effectively scavenge a number of radical species (hydroxyl radicals, nitric oxide radicals, peroxynitrite, hydrogen peroxide, and hypochloritc), only
R-dihydro-lipoic acid has been shown effective against superoxide and peroxyl reactive oxygen species.'"
Moreover. whereas alpha-lipoic acid and R-dihydro-lipoic acid both regenerate endogenous antioxidants and prevent oxidative stress. only R-dihvdro-lipoic acid has been shown capable of actually repairing oxidative damage. Alpha-1 antiprotease (alpha 1-AP) is a physiologically essential macromolecule that helps lung tissue remain elastic. Oxidized alpha 1-AP has been implicated in the etiology of certain lung diseases, such as cystic fibrosis. German researchers discovered that R-dihydro-lipoic acid was effective in reversing the oxidative damage to alpha 1-AP leading them to conclude. "[R-]dihydro-lipoic acid may exert a curative effect in diseases accompanied by oxidative stress.""'
R-dihydro-lipoic acid has also been shown to interact with and enhance the antioxidant effects of CoQ 10. By donating an electron to oxidized CoQ 10. R-dihvdro-lipoic acid has been demonstrated to prevent the formation of damaging pro-oxidants, while maintaining CoQ 10 in its active antioxidant form to prevent peroxidation of susceptible biomembranes."
R-Dihydro-Lipoic Acid and Alzheimer's Disease
Alzheimer's disease is a progressive neurode(yenerative disorder that typically develops in people aged 50 or older. Its hallmarks include oxidative stress and energy depletion. German researchers theorized that alpha-lipoic acid's positive effects on glucose metabolism might assist in treating Alzheimer's. They administered 600 mg of alpha-lipoic acid daily to nine Alzheimer's patients in an open study for periods lasting close
to a year. Alpha-lipoic acid treatment led to a stabilization of cognitive functions in the study group, determined by constant scores in two neuropsychological tests. Despite the limited sample size, the research team reported that treatment with alpha-lipoic acid might be a successful neuroprotective therapy for Alzheimer's disease and related dementias.~~
In a second study, researchers at the Sanders-Brown Center on Aging at the University of Kentucky Chandler Medical Center have shown that R-dihydrolipoic acid protects cortical neurons from the toxic effects of two oxidative substances implicated in Alzheimer's disease. The researchers found that cortical neurons were significantly protected by R-dihydrolipoic acid following exposure to iron/hydrogen peroxide and amyloid beta-peptide. Interestingly, whereas pretreatment with alpha-lipoic acid protected cells subsequently exposed to iron/hydrogen peroxide, there was no protection noticed in cells exposed to alpha-lipoic acid and iron/hydrogen peroxide at the same time. Reviewing the results of the study, the authors concluded. "Treatment of cortical neurons with [R-]dihydro-lipoic acid significantly protected glucose transport against [iron/hydrogen peroxide] or beta-mediated decreases, although treatment with alpha-lipoic acid did not provide protection. These data suggest that R-dihydro-lipoic acid, the reduced form of R-lipoic acid, significantly protects against both [amyloid beta] and [iron/hydrogen peroxide] mediated toxicity.-',
R-Dihydro-Lipoic Acid and Atherosclerosis
Atherosclerosis is theorized to begin when low-density lipoprotein (LDL) particles circulating in the
blood are damaged by lipid peroxidation. When the oxidatively modified LDL particles become implanted beneath the endothelial layers lining arterial walls, they are recognized as foreign invaders. This triggers apoptosis, or the cellular suicide of artery cells. A buildup of foam cells later causes bulges in the artery wall and atherosclerotic plaque develops. In-vitro experiments have shown that Rdihydro-lipoic acid-but not alphalipoic acid-can counteract lipid peroxidation of LDL particles, demonstrating a potential therapeutic effect for the early prevention of atherosclerosis. In the same study, R-dihydro-lipoic acid-but not alpha-lipoic acid-was shown to readily reduce iron and scavenge free radicals in a model of atherosclerosis, demonstrating a potential therapeutic effect for the early prevention of inflammatory processes implicated in cardiovascular disease."
R-Dihydro-Lipoic Acid Improves the Heart's Energy Production
Heart attack and stroke are significant causes of mortality and disability. Therapeutics that can optimize healing from these events thus may be valuable aids in restoring health and function. When blood flow is restored following a heart attack or stroke. cells previously deprived of oxygen generate a flood of free radicals that inflict damage to surrounding tissues that is more severe than that caused by the original trauma. When researchers treated isolated rat hearts with lipoic acid (given in the form of R-dihydro-lipoic acid). mitochondrial function significantly improved. This resulted in significantly higher ATP levels in the heart tissue compared to untreated hearts,"
In one study, a combination of R-dihydro-lipoic acid and vitamin E was shown to synergistically improve cardiac functional recovery during post-ischemic reperfusion or post-hypoxic reoxygenation of working rat hearts. After 30 minutes of oxygen deprivation (hypoxia), hearts treated with R-dihydrolipoic acid showed significantly higher levels of ATP following reoxygenation than did untreated (carts.'" R-dihydro-lipoic acid com)ined with vitamin E may therefore yelp guard against damage to heart :issue inflicted by cardiac events.
Conclusion
According to Dr. Packer, "Just 10 years ago, scientists had a simllistic view of free radicals and tntioxidants. Today, knowledge of t global antioxidant network has 'merged which is linked to the metabolic energy-producing pro,ess-a new perspective that is
coding to an explosion of basic esearch and therapeutic studies."'
R-dihydro-lipoic acid is a powerul new supplement that sits at the orefront of this new wave of ntioxidant research. As a powerful Biological antioxidant involved in ellular metabolism and the recyling of endogenous antioxidants,
Z-dihydro-lipoic acid has been
shown to aid in the prevention of numerous disorders associated with aging and oxidative stress, including diabetes, Alzheimer's disease, and atherosclerosis.


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the misguided person that wrote that article apparently knows very little about either biochemistry or the compound in question.

R-dhla is not the preferred form. It may be adequate for use in some cellular models. However it is highly unstable and particularly ill suited for oral consumption. Not to mention that it in fact yields less effect than R-lipoic. It is no accident that all the recent studies use solely R+ lipoic.

as a note the chinese have been trying to push this material for about 2 years, no thanks.
 
I might as well chime in here too.

It's too bad when someone with a half way decent reputation does something like this. Berkeley and USC are the leading research universities in lipoic acid research. This material isn't used by either school in medical research for oral use. The only reason manufacturers push this now is because they don't want the hassle of keeping the R-ALA cool in the summer time. The first answer was to attach potassium to it and make K-R-ALA which proved to be ineffective. The second answer was to bypass the R-ALA altogether and make this R-dihydro-LA. They have dismissed the fact that it's like l-glutamine and won't do you any good if you swallow it.
And then to write that paper and quote studies like this one

6. Packer L. Kraemer K. Rimbach G. Molecular aspects of lipoic acid in the prevention of diabetes complications. ;Vun~ti<m. 2001 Nov:17(10):888-95.

just makes them look foolish to those who know better. This study SPECIFICALLY describes why R-ALA should be used instead of any other material. There are 3 graphics and 500 words devoted to it. It's unbelieveable that they actually quote Dr Packer in that paper and he has spent over 20 years studying and promoting the use of R-ALA over any other material. He can use any material he wants, he's the Lord of Anti-Oxidants and his work is paid for by people like Roche. He has had over 500 papers published and not a single one suggests using the material they are selling. Yet they quote him as though he would endorse it.
 
Ulter said:
I don't think in all the literature I have read about R+ there is any mention of using ALA for bulking. :)

You will gain more fat with ALA because it will raise your insulin levels and high insulin makes you fat. But I fail to see how that would be a "desired" effect, even while bulking.
Personally I have had it up to my eyeball with getting fat and then cutting it. What if you could eat all the food you could stand and still stay relatively lean? Well you can if you use Glucorell R with thermos or fat burners like Thermorexin and Liporexin. I know because I am doing it.
I have bulked and cut many times over the last 25 years and this rocks eating 4-5000 cal a day and not having to change to my "fat" clothes.
Click to expand...

I knew r-ala was superior, but regular ALA can actually promote fat gain? This is news to me. ALA can increase insulin levels and r-ala doesn’t? I guess I need to read more…

Anyway, I just broke down and ordered a 240 count bottle. I’ll give it a fair try. Regardless of its supposed insulin effects it’s a good anti-oxidant and cant hurt anything on some dbol/test/tren. Should probably snag some Tyler Detox too :D

Some constructive criticism about your site and my purchase experience:

Its Unbearably slow (at least it was for me tonight), I tested other sites too…

The Order/Cart process shit the bed once on me in the middle of my attempted transaction (possibly due to the latency issues).

$8 shipping on 1 bottle of r-ala? regular shipping? Lol wtf, is it going to be here in 2 days on dry ice? I got like 10+lbs of stuff from DPS and regular ground is $6-7

To avoid slamming AF Store too much, I wouldnt have ordered it if I wasnt confident its one of, if not the best, r-ala products available at this price.
 
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If there is a lot of traffic at the store and no one remembers to reboot the server it can get slow and time out. It doesn't happen often though. Also it's graphic rich so dial-ups are slow.
The price for shipping is not "our" price. The price is inserted right out of the UPS database for residential delivery with insurance. They raised all their rates again on Jan 1.
 
I see...

what about the regular ala deal? I still have some of that leftoever from an older purchase. Should I ditch it?
 
Any side effects with this stuff? Also how often or how many do you take a day?
 
Man, there's so mush shyyyat to read in the forums I'm growing a fkn beard. O.k, I'm going to do a t-rex/Lev stack and throw in Glucorell. To me, it makes sense because the inhibiting of insulin w/ Glu. compliments and aides the fat burning processes of the T-Rex/Lev stack. What would the dosage and frequency of the Glu. be? If I'm wrong on this, please correct my ignorance.
 
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