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Why DON'T you use Test?
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bicepts101
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i still use it but i have lowered the dose considerably...this cycle is 250mg.....gyno is bad on test....
If find that I just don't feel very well on it.. I get bad headaches, I retain alot
of water, gain weight around my waistline, and it makes me short tempered.
I like to use deca in it's place. My gains are just as good without the sides.
Deca seems to cure all my aches and pains at the same time.
Chaos
of water, gain weight around my waistline, and it makes me short tempered.
I like to use deca in it's place. My gains are just as good without the sides.
Deca seems to cure all my aches and pains at the same time.
Chaos
r1derful said:
There is no AAS that causes nearly as much acne as test. For me at least
I still use it, but I can't use excessive dosages.
Like mentioned above, Deca is really nice aside from the drop in libido (which can be treated w/ other stuff)....good gains without many sides.
Excidium28
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What elce can you run with deca accept test to help ur libido.
glennds
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was on test till discovered parabolan. read up on in and found out it has three times the androgenic properties of test without a lot of the drawbacks of test: doesn't aromatize, doesn't convert to DHT (my hair is already thin), doesn't make you hold water and salt so doesn't lead to higher blood pressure, and not hard on the liver.
yes i have read a lot about tren drawbacks: aggression, insomnia, kidney issues. gotta admit have experience some darker urine which i am not ignoring. only doing the parabolan for four weeks and will end my current cycle. haven't had problem with any other issue. costs more than test but test has too many bad sides.
yes i have read a lot about tren drawbacks: aggression, insomnia, kidney issues. gotta admit have experience some darker urine which i am not ignoring. only doing the parabolan for four weeks and will end my current cycle. haven't had problem with any other issue. costs more than test but test has too many bad sides.
TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT
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r1derful said:
I don't not use it
Growth&Courage
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LVTitan said:yeah i get a little full around the waste, no gyno/bloat, but test gives me serious acne. i get big, but not worth those sides. ideca. only test for me will be maintenance doses if at all.
dostinex/cabaser or proviron
Acne is a big obstacle.
Can you take deca by itself without any test? Is that possible? Say 400-600mg per week?
glennds
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LVTitan said:yeah i get a little full around the waste, no gyno/bloat, but test gives me serious acne. i get big, but not worth those sides. i
guess i missed your new handle LV. was wondering what happened to our GL. anyhow, good to see you. have you decided to reinvent yourself?
anthony518
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This might be stupid, but when you say test, do you include sust. I really don't get all the sides and problems you guys have mentioned. I know that sust is a test, but is it as bad as enath, or susp? Also do you guys never use test? I am confused, what else is there?
LVTitan
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yes when we say test we mean all test: prop/sust/enth/cyp/susp/ it's all test. some guys use test in every cycle no matter what as a base. some guys here only use small maintenance doses, and some guys here never use it anymore. i believe in small maint doses , i usually get acne bad when running like 500mg for over a month, but i'm going to try my next cycle w/no test at all. if i notice any libido probs i will prob incorporate some proviron.anthony518 said:
High sides to gains ratio. Not much in the way of gains when used alone even at high doses. I'd put either 25mg of dbol ED or 300mg EW of deca up against 600mg of test when it comes to my body and gains. All that said, my experience with including it in a stack even at low levels has been very solid.
growthspurt
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poantrex said:
I've noticed this too. However, I found sticking to enth balances it out more for me. Do you use Prop?
I'm fully aware of what the experts say. And I'm certainly aware of how it works for many people. That said, I have more than a little bit of experience in this over the years. I've run test only on no fewer than 4 occasions. I've also run dbol only on many occasions and deca only around 3 times. Then of course there are the stacked cycles which I can't really estimate the number of but it's up there. I am intimately familiar with how my own body responds to different compounds and dosages. So when I say that test only doesn't produce much in the way of gains for me when compared to other compounds, I realize my experience is an outlier but nevertheless that is how my body reacts. This post is about 'Why don't you use test?'. I certainly have had success in a stack (as noted previously) but run alone it's not good at all for me. I am not advising that the majority of people will have results similar to mine. But, that is my experience.biteme said:
