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Why Don’t I see more freaks with all the gear people are taking

bigp3

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Okay here is a question that has perplexed me as of late. I see and hear about all these guys in my gym and on this board that are taking huge amounts of gear. I know several of these guys personally so, I know their clams are true. This quandary made me ask myself why aren’t these guys freaks. The majority of them look the same month after month with no progress that I can see. There were three possible answers that I was able to come up with.

1. The gear is fake
2. The diet is not adequate
3. The training is incorrect

Well I was able to eliminate the 1st answer fairly quickly because I know most of these guys are getting legit gear. So, with number one out of the way next came the diet. With this I started asking around a little. I did My own little informal survey of sorts on bodybuilding diet. I talked to several people on the boards and some of my buddies at the gym. I was shocked to find that most of these people are only taking in what is required to maintain their bodyweight. For example, I asked a bodybuilder at my gym who competes in some local yocal shows what his diet consists of. This is what he told me,,, “ I eat about 3000 calories a day with 200-250 grams of protein”. Then he proceeds to tell me how he is at a sticking point in his training and has been for a while. He cannot gain weight anymore. Keep in mind this guy weighs about 220. Well, I am no rocket scientist, but that in no way sounds like a diet that could or would support any great gain in body mass. If you eat like you are 200 pounds what do you think you will weigh? 200 fucking pounds. Hell this diet would be good for my girlfriend if she wanted to get big.

I think this whole stigma of eating completely clean with low to moderate calories comes from all the bullshit that is published in bodybuilding mags. These magazines play on the bodybuilding publics fear of being fat. I will bet my left nut that any of the pros that get bigger and better each year,,, i.e. Ronnie Coleman etc.. eat like men and not 10 year old girls, like most of you out there do. These pictures of the pros in the magazines have polluted our minds. These pics are taken right when these guys are getting ready to do a show. Most of these motherfuckers are big fat pigs in the offseason.

Okay, well we have established that most of us are malnourished. So, what diet is required to get big? I believe that 2 grams of protein and 22 cal per pound of bodyweight should be a minimum to those that want to pack on mass in the fastest manner possible. You will not get big! I repeat! You will not get big no matter what gear you use if you are only taking in a baseline diet. It does not matter if you are taking 3 grams of test a week with 200 mg a day of fina with some dbol thrown in for good measure. Throw this baseline diet idea out with yesterdays trash. You are not going to be cut year round if you want brutal size. If you don’t stop clinging to the stay cut diet, guess what? You are going to come out with a net gain of 2 or 3 lbs of muscle a year. Yes you will be cut and you may laugh at me when I gain 30 or 40 lbs and get a little thick around the middle. But you know what, 3 or 4 months of cardio and I will be as cut as you plus gained a net of 20 or 30 lbs of muscle compared to your measly 2 or 3 lbs.

The third answer to the problem of why there are not as many freaks was not training properly. Too many people are brainwashed to believe that you need to do set after set to grow. What science is this belief based on? None, that is right none. There is no logic behind this belief and it is a known scientific fact that all that is needed to provide the stimulus to grow is overload. So in theory you could accomplish an overload with one all out balls to the wall set that is more than what you did on your last workout.

Too many people overtrain due to the false belief that set after set is required to grow. Let me ask you this. If 10 sets work better than 5, then wouldn’t 20, 50, 100 be even better? Do you see where I am going with this? Any set that goes past the point of providing the stimulus (overlaod) required to grow is overtraining. The reason that it is overtraining is that any additional set past what is needed for overload is going to decrease your recovery ability. That is right the more sets you do the more time your body needs to recover. This also means that your body needs more resources to fuel this recovery. In addition to increased recovery time there is no way that you could generate balls to the wall intensity set after set. I guarantee that. Your intensity is going to be half ass since you need to pace yourself for this marathon. Who is bigger, a sprinter that goes all out 100% effort for a short duration or a distance runner who is pacing himself to go as long as possible?

Another problem I see with training is the people that do the same fucking sets with the same weight every workout. Numbnuts, wake the fuck up. Overload makes your grow, if you do the same weight month after month, year after year you are going to look the same, period! These bodybuilders (if you want to call them that) have no plan what so ever. The answer to this is always increase your intensity. So how do you keep track of this. Get a pen and a pad stupid and keep a log of what you do each week. Now that you are doing this try to beat your previous workout every time you come into the gym. Five pounds more here and extra rep there. Enough said about that!

Conclusion: I have been training for over 10 years now and have read every book and magazine known to man. Believe me my mind has been polluted by all the bullshit just like the rest of you. Because of my frustrations with the norm. in bodybuilding I have come to a point where I have opened my mind up to think critically about what works and what doesn’t. If you use your brain and question why you are doing the things you are doing you will come to believe the same things.
 
because many hope for drugs to take care of everything and are too lazy to take care of the nutrition/training/resting
 
I think the whole genetics thing is bunk. I agree that some people are more gifted than others,, but I also believe that with hard work, almost anyone can obtain decent size. Look at the pics of Dorian yates when he was young. I would say he had anything but great genetics. He looked just like an average guy, but guess what. He had a game plan and a work ethic like no one else. I don't think he missed any meals either.
 
Serge is absolutely correct, people think that AAS are going to make them look like a guy in Flex magazine, or on the other hand others think that they will make them hard and lean. Not taking into account the number ONE supplement....FOOD. Most people are lazy and think that as long as they take Juice they will be ahead of the competition....Wrong
You think the pro's just dilly dallied around taking massive amounts of Juice and drinking protein all day to get where they are...Hell no it is about Hard work and learning about your body and it's needs.

DIET is first and formost most peoples problems, I'd say 3 out of 10 people can diet and stick to it religiously, and out of those 3 maybe 1 listens to his body and does what his or her body is telling it to. This is the person who will constantly change and be happy with his progress, and not blame it on other factors such as claiming they bought fake juice.

Another thing is Genetics, Pro bodybuilders have some of the most perfect genetics on the planet for bodybuilding and are loaded with Type 2B muscle fibers. BUT they train there asses off and diet extremely hard (not as hard in the offseason but they do not miss meals and give the body what it needs) The average person does not have half of the genetic potential that a pro bodybuilder would have, and people think that if they take insane amounts of juice and or GH that they will become this incredible physique...Not the case instead even if you have decent genetics you will likely not make it and become burned out on Juice way before your time.


Everyone needs to understand that eventhough experimenting with curtain compounds and such is fun, you need to listen to your body , give it what it needs and also look at the long run not just 12 weeks from now. AAS are not miracles in a bottle, but a helping factor in the muscle building process, not a free ride to a great physique.
 
agreed
 
If you have two arms, two legs, and fully fuctional internal organs, your genetics are good enough. "I have bad genetics" is such a fucking excuse. Eat more, and work harder. No, I mean really.
 
the answer is within the question.

nowadays dudes pump for a few months and jump on a cycle not knowing much about proper training diet and discýpline.
so they may get big but it wont last very long. you just dont jump into bodybuildýng!!!

the freaks are most often dudes who have been pumping for years. and even though most of them have juiced they still must be given credit for their accomplishment.

the one thing that drives me nuts ýs when somebody says

*well if i juiced id be that big too*
 
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