why does africa suck sooo much?

[furious]

Many reasons:

The climate is ideal for many baccilus organisms to flourish.

Africa is incredibly diverse ethnically, more so than any other continent. These peoples were never able to consolidate coherent political entities.

Africa has no tradition of property transfer, national boundaries, or statehood. The Brits tried to rectify this problem in Nigeria, but ethnic nationalisms defeated the effort.

Lack of infrastructure. Africa does not have the distribution mechanisms in place to efficienty harvest and deliever foodstuffs.

Evil men like John Mugabe. Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe) was the breadbasket of subsaharan Africa. Mugabe took it upon himself to strip Whites of their citizenship, and sieze their farmland. 40% of farmers in Zimbabwe were Whites. Now the nation is literally starving.

Islamic fundamentalism. A persistent, destabilizing force.

Very well thought out post, cheers.
John Mugabe proves the theory of the opressed happily becoming the opressors if given the chance, next it will be the ladies turn.

Caged, are you saying there are no cultural or scientifc accomplishments that came from Africa, and the whole lot of dem Negros need to be laid to rest?
1 out of every 5 Russian has HIV, should we carpet bomb, them, also?
No flames, bro...either you are young, or need to do a alittle world traveling, you will be amazed.

 

[CAGED whiteman]

One thing I've noticed, most africans that come to the US work their asses off, and some that I've talked to generally don't really like american black people. I've heard the term lazy being used. interesting.

you mean someone said black americans are lazy, thats the first time i have heard that!!! lol

 

[BronzedGoddess]

CWM, tell me about yourself. What have you done to better this country?? Until then. Shut Up, no one wants to hear it!

 

[Norman Bates]

Foreign aid isn´t just humanitarian. It helps the government to keep the prices of ressources down, it determines which foreign company is allowed to extract them.
This support is beneficial for the economy of the 1st world ,too.

 

[HansNZ]

your homer simpson example is strange but you seem to be correct. if canada promotes homer simpson to be president of america and we let it happen and he kills americans then we dont have any right to blame canada. we should blame ourselves. just like african countries should blame themselves.

Well the comparison isn't valid. If Homer Simpson is elected by the US public in free and fair elections then the public holds a certain amount of responsibility for making him leader.

In Africa these leaders are rarely chosen by the general populace. Where some semblance of free elections existed, if these elections happened to go in a direction which the US didn't like, then organisations like the CIA actively intervened to manipulate the outcome.

This hasn't just happened in Africa. In Italy in the 1950s the CIA intervened when free elections began to favour communists. In Iran the freely elected socialist PM was toppled in a CIA sponsored coup after he attempted to nationalise the oil industry (so that Iran would get some of the profits, not just US and UK oil companies). A vicious dictator known as the Shah was installed with US support. He was so unpopular that reactionaries under Ayatollah Kholmeni toppled him and became aggressively anti-American as a result.

Western banks and governments also bankrolled puppet dictators and left African countries with huge debts. You cannot turn around and then say that it is the responsibility of the peasants in these nations for this situation when clearly they had no voice in this situation.

 

[danielson]

your homer simpson example is strange but you seem to be correct. if canada promotes homer simpson to be president of america and we let it happen and he kills americans then we dont have any right to blame canada. we should blame ourselves. just like african countries should blame themselves.

the amount of jews that dont think israel is a legitimate state are very very few. if they want to try to get control of israel then they are free to do so by legal means.

well hansnz just made the point but i typed this up anyway so i might as well post

i was trying to think about what would happen if a president with a v.low IQ got elected. homer simpson was the only person i could think of (Well there Was one other )

but what would happen if u tried to stop that person becoming president and u failed. and when u tried again all your crops were burnt and your family killed. and the only military in the country was pro-stooge

they obviously will never get ahold of israel by legal means. neither did the west and the USSR when it was playing in africa. thats the point im trying to make. we have to accept some responsbilty

 

[HansNZ]

Foreign aid isn´t just humanitarian. It helps the government to keep the prices of ressources down, it determines which foreign company is allowed to extract them.
This support is beneficial for the economy of the 1st world ,too.

This is dead right. Only a small fraction of foreign aid is purely humanitarian.

Much of it comes with strings attached. Frequently it is to be used to buy armaments from the donor country. Favours and contracts have to be given to the donor's domestically located companies. Aid is also used to influence the economic structure of a recipient country's economy along lines that benefits the donor countries.

As a general rule, aid from smaller developed countries tends to have a higher humanitarian share and fewer strings attached. As the donor country becomes larger, then more conditions are attached, and the more the aid is used to further the interests of the donor country in question.

In this sense aid from generous smaller nations such as Norway or Denmark is "cleaner" and more charitable than aid from countries like Britain or the USA.

 

[Lumbuss]

africa is a great place, many of my favorite athletes come from that country!!! i love africa and i want to go visit it some day!!! it is a very big continent and there is much to see and do there!!!

 

[HansNZ]

if they could get together and support a decent leader then we wouldnt have to bother stepping in.

Well one of the main reasons why they can't get decent leaders is BECAUSE the US keeps "stepping in". If the US (or any other imperialist power) stops interfering for the sake of its own self-interest, then perhaps the continent's people will be able to take responsibility for themselves.

if they got their shit together they could overthrow the stooge.[/B]

Well the US (and others) frequently prop up these stooges so that the populace can't get rid of them. Do you think the current regimes in places like Saudi Arabia would still be in power if they weren't being propped up by the US for the purpose of the US's own self-interest?

its racist to think that we are the only ones capable of doing this. that we are the only ones who can be held responsible for our faults while others can blame others because liberals think they arent able to take care of themselves. we do not have to accept any responsibility because we arent obligated to help them, they are responsible for themselves. [/B]

Well since Americans aren't of one single race I am not sure if the term "racist" applies. However the US is not the only country doing this. Others are guilty too. However the US's reach is the longest and its interests are many, so its influence is the most pervasive and destructive.

Yes, I agree, people are responsible for themselves and the consequences of their own actions. That is why the US has so much to answer for in Africa. It is responsible for its actions there. This goes for countries like Britain, France, and the (now non-existent) USSR too.

 

[CAGED whiteman]

Cultures have a life span. They are born, they peak, they die. Africa will consolidate its resources and unite its people or it will perish. This is not something that the West can rectify, the West is not benevolent. (despite the regime's claims to the contrary)

exactly, makes you wonder who is going to come to our aid when we need it...it will happen too!!!