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NWinters

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I cant stand chain smokers.....My mom and dad smoke heavily and everytime they come over they leave my apartment smelling like cigarettes. The same goes for me when I go to thier house, the shit just clings to your clothes. I dont mind a cigar every now and then, but I dont do it to the point where it sticks to the fucking walls. I just dont understand why you would want to light up every 5 minutes?
 
I used to. Peer pressure got me started in HS. Don't anymore. My firstborn crying because he thought I was going to die next week from it, got me to stop.
 
EnderJE said:
I used to. Peer pressure got me started in HS. Don't anymore. My firstborn crying because he thought I was going to die next week from it, got me to stop.

Awesome dude. Everyone in my immediate family has smoked at one time or another and my mom and sister still do. There is absolutely no good reason to smoke other than a desire to increase the chances of gettin cancer.
 
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crew9 said:


Awesome dude. Everyone in my immediate family has smoked at one time or another and my mom and sister still do. There is absolutely no good reason to smoke other than a desire to increase the chances of gettin cancer.

Thats too bad. . how long has your mom and sister been addicted?

Have they ever tried to quit?
 
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louden_swain said:


Thats too bad. . how long have your mom and sister been addicted?

Have they ever tried to quit?

My mom has "tried" to quit several times and she's been smoking since 15 I believe. She turns 50 in a few months. My sister hasn't tried, at least not to my knowledge.
 
sk* said:
Well, I don't smoke, but I imagine a lot of it is addiction.

-sk

There is no reason to become addicted to cigarettes. People start smoking to fit in, feel like they belong, to look cool, etc. Then they get addicted. Some people realize what they're doing and quit and others like to live in their ignorance. Any smokers reading this who might get offended think about what your family, or your husband or wife, or your children will feel when they lose you early in life.
 
NWinters said:
I just dont understand why you would want to light up every 5 minutes?

Habit..stress..nerves..an alternative to eating...it is relaxing ...

and those are just a few reasons why people chain smoke...

I guess here is the way I look at it.. If they are over 18, it is their choice, and they are happy with it...so it is not my place to argue with them. If they want to quit...they will let me know. Not the other way around..:rasta:
 
crew9 said:


There is no reason to become addicted to cigarettes. People start smoking to fit in, feel like they belong, to look cool, etc. Then they get addicted. Some people realize what they're doing and quit and others like to live in their ignorance. Any smokers reading this who might get offended think about what your family, or your husband or wife, or your children will feel when they lose you early in life.

That is just one reason, but besides, who cares about the reasons? It is the end result that matters.

People smoke so much cause they are addicted, no other reason.

-sk
 
Smokers are weak minded and inconsiderate by definition, nothing personal. Its a habit that requires poor self discipline and low hygiene. Its bad news, as are smokers for the most part. Although, girls who smoke are easier and that is nice, but they also tend to be whack jobs. Guys who smoke, well, the oral symbolism is self explanatory in my opinion. They dont call it "puffing" for nothing.
 
Yucky. I understand you have a right if you want to, but DAMN. GROSS!
 
I cant wait till they ban the shit in public...and people start getting attitude probs, another reason for me bitch slap somone.
 
toga22 said:


Habit..stress..nerves..an alternative to eating...it is relaxing ...

and those are just a few reasons why people chain smoke...

I am sorry but thats pathetic!!!

There are alternatives to relieve stress.

People should have more sex or start exercising instead of inhaling carcinogenic toxins.
 
louden_swain said:


I am sorry but thats pathetic!!!

There are alternatives to relieve stress.

People should have more sex or start exercising instead of inhaling carcinogenic toxins.


And they need not give the non-smokers cancer. I see many lawsuits in the future because of this.
 
louden_swain said:


I am sorry but thats pathetic!!!

There are alternatives to relieve stress.

People should have more sex or start exercising instead of inhaling carcinogenic toxins.


And who are you to say what I can and can't do? What you say? don't smoke in public? If it's a designated smoking area, find another place to walk. If it's outside a bar, realize you're in the minority b/c you're a nonsmoker. With as many restrictions as there are today, you have plenty of ways to avoid the smoke
 
Stangfriik said:



And who are you to say what I can and can't do? What you say? don't smoke in public? If it's a designated smoking area, find another place to walk. If it's outside a bar, realize you're in the minority b/c you're a nonsmoker. With as many restrictions as there are today, you have plenty of ways to avoid the smoke

Its funny how smokers are in denial and will say whatever to justify their nasty and self destructive habit.

What will you do when smoking becomes illegal in public places? What excuses will you come up with then?
 
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Stangfriik said:



And who are you to say what I can and can't do? What you say? don't smoke in public? If it's a designated smoking area, find another place to walk. If it's outside a bar, realize you're in the minority b/c you're a nonsmoker. With as many restrictions as there are today, you have plenty of ways to avoid the smoke

You can smoke all you want. That's your right and I'd never try to take that away from ya. I just don't get why you'd willingly put a gun in your mouth and pull the trigger. Granted the triggers being pulled slowly but its being pulled none the less.
 
I'm not trying to justify it in any way. I've actually started wellbutrin which has the same active ingredient as shit I can't remember the name right now. It's that med docs give you to quit smoking. Anyways, I am using it for legitimate reasons but I also wanted to get on it to help me quit smoking. I enjoy smoking. It's one of the few things that I actually enjoy in my life. I've always had an oral fixation. I always chewed through pen caps, pens, etc. I'm happy for people that choose not to smoke. But to condemn people for doing something they enjoy even though it may be bad is wrong. Just like the gov't trying to tell me I can't use drugs b/c they deem them unecessary. If they do ban smoking in public places, I'll smoke in my car and home. That's where I only smoke anyways.
 
Stangfriik said:
I'm not trying to justify it in any way. I've actually started wellbutrin which has the same active ingredient as shit I can't remember the name right now. It's that med docs give you to quit smoking. Anyways, I am using it for legitimate reasons but I also wanted to get on it to help me quit smoking. I enjoy smoking. It's one of the few things that I actually enjoy in my life. I've always had an oral fixation. I always chewed through pen caps, pens, etc. I'm happy for people that choose not to smoke. But to condemn people for doing something they enjoy even though it may be bad is wrong. Just like the gov't trying to tell me I can't use drugs b/c they deem them unecessary. If they do ban smoking in public places, I'll smoke in my car and home. That's where I only smoke anyways.

Ever tried Wrigley's?
 
i dont see how anyne can pick up the habit in the first place. first time i tried it made me cough too much. dip and chewing tabacco made me nauseous
 
I live in Delaware and smoking is now illegal in public places. It's great I love it. I can actually go out now, cuz before I couldn't stand going to a restaurant/bar cuz it fucked me up. I'm allergic to the smoke to the point where if I breathe it, my respitory system shuts down.

I don't care if people smoke but what I don't understand is why they feel they have to smoke in a place where it affects others?? Smoke at home in your car, by yourself, but leave me out of it.

How bout this? I like to poke people with a toothpick while I'm out at a bar. Won't kill you, maybe not now, but it could later down the line and it's damn annoying and no one likes it, but it's my given right to do it. Sound like a typical smoker? That's their argument -- It's my right, it goes with beer...blah blah blah....my foot goes with your ass how would you like that?

OK I'm done ranting....watched both my parents die cuz of smoking when I was 27 & it really sucked. I got to watch my mom die of cancer & my dad cough his lungs up. Nice, real nice.
 
I'm French and swear that has something to with it but I smoked my first cig and loved it, was up to a pack a day promptly. I love to smoke when I drink, that's the worst time. You just don't understand unless you know first hand. I smoked hard core for about 18 years and I have pretty much quit but the drinking smoking thing is still a problem.
 
NWinters said:
I cant stand chain smokers.....My mom and dad smoke heavily and everytime they come over they leave my apartment smelling like cigarettes. The same goes for me when I go to thier house, the shit just clings to your clothes. I dont mind a cigar every now and then, but I dont do it to the point where it sticks to the fucking walls. I just dont understand why you would want to light up every 5 minutes?

I wouldn't let them smoke in my home...ever.

Nefi smoked for 10 years...up to 4 packs a day. She quit on our 2nd date. She didn't smoke a single one on our first date...but took 1 puff of one on our 2nd date...and stopped completely.

She said that an athlete shouldn't have to be around someone who smoked.

B True
 
My parents arent allowed to smoke in my home...Its the smell they bring with them I hate. Neffi must really love you to kick a habit that has been with her for that long. Amazing!!
 
NWinters said:
My parents arent allowed to smoke in my home...Its the smell they bring with them I hate. Neffi must really love you to kick a habit that has been with her for that long. Amazing!!

There are so many things that she does, has done, is doing...that are much more amazing that quitting smoking. She has done more and seen more in her life than anyone else that I know. She is, flat out, the most amazing person I've ever met.

I'm the lucky one...

B True
 
b fold the truth said:


There are so many things that she does, has done, is doing...that are much more amazing that quitting smoking. She has done more and seen more in her life than anyone else that I know. She is, flat out, the most amazing person I've ever met.

I'm the lucky one...

B True



Serious question here and no I'm not trying to be a smartass. Do you honestly think you will be in better health than a person who smoked once you both get up there in age? Given that SOME almost feel no ill effects from smoking over the long term. Yet it is almost certain that you will most likely be in a wheelchair or need help walking once your joints go from all the tremendous weight you move? I know you're a smart guy so you should know that the amount of weight you're lifting will eventually cause your joints to either give out or prohibit you from doing what you're doing. Do you think the few years of happiness is worth the potential decades of pain you could experience from what you're doing?
 
Aren't there designated areas for smoking and non smoking? just go to the areas that are for non smokers.

you know what i hate... crying babies in public... they should be banned too... or maybe shove somehting in their mouths to keeo them quiet... perhaps a nice menthol cigarette.
 
Lets say it is my particular pleasure to buy a big, expensive car and drive it at full speed down every road I can. I love it and will not stop, even if others try to convince me it's wrong. What do they know? I have never had a serious accident in my life, it's just those do-gooders trying to ruin a good time for all of us, with their speed limits and traffic signs.
 
Zander1983 said:
Lets say it is my particular pleasure to buy a big, expensive car and drive it at full speed down every road I can. I love it and will not stop, even if others try to convince me it's wrong. What do they know? I have never had a serious accident in my life, it's just those do-gooders trying to ruin a good time for all of us, with their speed limits and traffic signs.


Come on. You can think of a better analogy than that can't you? Speeding is AGAINST THE LAW. On the other hand, smoking IS NOT IF IN A DESIGNATED AREA. Thank you. Come again.
 
Stangfriik said:




Serious question here and no I'm not trying to be a smartass. Do you honestly think you will be in better health than a person who smoked once you both get up there in age? Given that SOME almost feel no ill effects from smoking over the long term. Yet it is almost certain that you will most likely be in a wheelchair or need help walking once your joints go from all the tremendous weight you move? I know you're a smart guy so you should know that the amount of weight you're lifting will eventually cause your joints to either give out or prohibit you from doing what you're doing. Do you think the few years of happiness is worth the potential decades of pain you could experience from what you're doing?

Please don't compare strongman to smoking cigarettes. You and I both know that clint is going to answer yes what he is doing is worth the possible pains later. Then you'll comment on "that's how smoking is for you." Smoking has no benefits other than soothing an addiction.
 
Stangfriik said:

Serious question here and no I'm not trying to be a smartass. Do you honestly think you will be in better health than a person who smoked once you both get up there in age? Given that SOME almost feel no ill effects from smoking over the long term. Yet it is almost certain that you will most likely be in a wheelchair or need help walking once your joints go from all the tremendous weight you move? I know you're a smart guy so you should know that the amount of weight you're lifting will eventually cause your joints to either give out or prohibit you from doing what you're doing. Do you think the few years of happiness is worth the potential decades of pain you could experience from what you're doing?

Who knows what life holds for me as I get older OR what it will hold for a smoker.

I think that you can look at the statistics and compare and contrast them between people who have lifted weights all of their life and those who have smoked all of their life. I'd imagine that those who have lifted heavily have MUCH fewer side-effects (at least life threatening ones) than those who smoked.

It is almost certain that I'll be in a wheelchair from all the weights that I lift? You must be joking!!! I'll be quick to point out that there are more than a few competitive strongmen who are in their 50's who are BETTER than I am now at 26.

Do you think that I will develop arthritis from lifting? You know, my mother was diagnosed with arthritis in her hands, hips, knees, elbows, back (etc...) this past week...and she hasn't lifted any weights in about 10 years...and she only did that for about a year. My father has it too...and has never lifted weights...but he DID smoke for 20 years. He also is a diabetic, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, poor circulation, morbidly obese, and the list goes on...

Is what I do now worth what I'll have in the future? Who knows...we both certainly do not. I often wondered how much healthier I'd been had I not went to college and spent so many nights not sleeping with my head buried into a book JUST so that I'd do a little better on an exam the next morning. I know that it wasn't healthy... In fact...I used to always get upset when some skinny guy in my class (who would always make the highest grades) would make some comment about how bad lifting weights was for my health..lol. Like studying all the time is healthy or something.

Flat out...I can't explain why I train. It isn't for health, it isn't for the body, it ain't for the money or the chicks either. It is for me. If you don't understand...I can't explain it to you.

B True
 
Zander1983 said:
That analogy wasn't an argument against smoking or why people smoke, but of the attitude that most smokers have.


Well then, I agree with your statement. I do in fact drive very aggressive b/c I love the speed and rush it gives. I also have never been in a wreck. So I guess I'm one of the lucky ones.
 
crew9 said:


Please don't compare strongman to smoking cigarettes. You and I both know that clint is going to answer yes what he is doing is worth the possible pains later. Then you'll comment on "that's how smoking is for you." Smoking has no benefits other than soothing an addiction.

actually nictone has fat burning and stimulant properties... it's the carcinogens that are the problem.
 
saint808 said:


actually nictone has fat burning and stimulant properties... it's the carcinogens that are the problem.

Lot of things burn fat and have stimulant properties that won't kill you.
 
b fold the truth said:


Who knows what life holds for me as I get older OR what it will hold for a smoker.

I think that you can look at the statistics and compare and contrast them between people who have lifted weights all of their life and those who have smoked all of their life. I'd imagine that those who have lifted heavily have MUCH fewer side-effects (at least life threatening ones) than those who smoked.

It is almost certain that I'll be in a wheelchair from all the weights that I lift? You must be joking!!! I'll be quick to point out that there are more than a few competitive strongmen who are in their 50's who are BETTER than I am now at 26.

Do you think that I will develop arthritis from lifting? You know, my mother was diagnosed with arthritis in her hands, hips, knees, elbows, back (etc...) this past week...and she hasn't lifted any weights in about 10 years...and she only did that for about a year. My father has it too...and has never lifted weights...but he DID smoke for 20 years. He also is a diabetic, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, poor circulation, morbidly obese, and the list goes on...

Is what I do now worth what I'll have in the future? Who knows...we both certainly do not. I often wondered how much healthier I'd been had I not went to college and spent so many nights not sleeping with my head buried into a book JUST so that I'd do a little better on an exam the next morning. I know that it wasn't healthy... In fact...I used to always get upset when some skinny guy in my class (who would always make the highest grades) would make some comment about how bad lifting weights was for my health..lol. Like studying all the time is healthy or something.

Flat out...I can't explain why I train. It isn't for health, it isn't for the body, it ain't for the money or the chicks either. It is for me. If you don't understand...I can't explain it to you.

B True




Oh I totally understand brother. I wasn't trying to put down what you do. I, in fact admire your dedication that you have for something that you truly love to do, no matter the cost, benefit, or consequence. You also mentioned weightlifting. You gotta admit. You're doing A LOT more than just bodybuilding. You're using your body to lift, push, pull, drag weights that the human body wasn't designed to do. I agree, simple weightlifting can have a tremendous effect on longevity. Homo sapiens just do not have the bone, ligament, or muscle structure like a chimp or gorilla has. They are specifically deigned to use their strength and leverage to move heavy objects.

I'm not saying you WILL develop these symptoms. That why I made sure put put"possibility" or potentially" in my statement. Since arthritis runs in your family, I would be especially careful but I know you love what you're doing but I hope the benefits outseigh the POTENTIAL consequences.
 
Stangfriik said:


You also mentioned weightlifting. You gotta admit. You're doing A LOT more than just bodybuilding. You're using your body to lift, push, pull, drag weights that the human body wasn't designed to do. I agree, simple weightlifting can have a tremendous effect on longevity. Homo sapiens just do not have the bone, ligament, or muscle structure like a chimp or gorilla has. They are specifically deigned to use their strength and leverage to move heavy objects.

I consider bodybuild a dangerous sport...if you can call it a sport. I've worked with SOOO many people with injuries...and all of them trained like a bodybuilder would. Their form is horrible and they wonder why they have a hurt back, hurt knees, hurt shoulder, etc... It is because they train like a bodybuilder.

The human body wasn't designed to lift objects like chimp or a gorilla...lol...that is why they are 9 times stronger than a human. The woman wasn't designed to lift weights like a man...so they don't. It doesn't mean that they can't move some serious weight though... In fact, a good female friend of mine has squatted in the lower 700's and pulled in the mid 600's. I believe that she benched over 400 too...all in the same meet.

B True
 
Sure. The lungs would still be as shot, but people would be more friendly...

...uh...not that I would know...<gives nervous laugh> ;)
 
NWinters said:
My parents arent allowed to smoke in my home...

I'm sorry...but I think that is kinda of rude. I guess I think after everything my parents have done for me in my life, that I can tolerate the cigerette smoke for a couple hours when they visit. If I sent them outside to smoke, I would feel very disrespectful.
 
NWinters said:



And they need not give the non-smokers cancer. I see many lawsuits in the future because of this.

Bullshit....

The study that showed that 2nd hand smoke gave people cancer was utter bullshit...they say IN THE PAPER it doesnt...yet realeased a press statement to the contrary.

2nd hand smoke DOES NOT AND CAN NOT give you cancer. Period.
 
MrMakaveli said:


Bullshit....

The study that showed that 2nd hand smoke gave people cancer was utter bullshit...they say IN THE PAPER it doesnt...yet realeased a press statement to the contrary.

2nd hand smoke DOES NOT AND CAN NOT give you cancer. Period.

Gotta love when ppl talk out of their asses. And if it's written IN THE PAPER it MUST be true. Show me an iota of proof in a respectable scientific journal. Newspaper articles on science are crap. Any biologist or other researcher will tell you that.
 
toga22 said:


I'm sorry...but I think that is kinda of rude. I guess I think after everything my parents have done for me in my life, that I can tolerate the cigerette smoke for a couple hours when they visit. If I sent them outside to smoke, I would feel very disrespectful.

Why??

They are the ones disrespecting you. . they are polluting your home, harming your health, and making you sick with their hacking-lung cookie coughs.
 
Hell I don't smoke but I bet the reason why most people smoke these days is because of peer preasure. They see others do it!
 
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