Why do you guys say you should have experience with other gear before tren?

[SouthPhilly]

Just wondering, I know the common sides people speak of, but I constantly here people saying things along the lines of beginners not using tren and other people who've ran cycles saying like "Uh Oh trying tren the first time"

What are the reasons you guys would mainly say for tren not to be used by a beginner? I could see learning your ancillary over time before tren, but what are your own reasons for you guys advising to wait?

I've only ran dbol only, test prop and winstrol depot, test prop, test prop and dbol before starting this cycle with tren.

 

[ScMc]

Its VERY hard to recover from from what I've heard.

 

[joe d]

tren and all nandro's add another element to the cycle. more complex sides to combat. and it is definately harder to recover from. its sides are sometimes harsh. newbies are quick to make a mistake and screw themselves up. like not wanting to buy the right ai's because they are expensive then their nipples start to leak. it also eats at you mentaly by causing nightmares, agression, and insomnia. those 3 dont go well together. once you are more used to gear and the milder nandros your body wont have as bad of a reaction and you will be better at dealing with the problems.

tren is also potent as hell. why not save it until your gains die off from the other gear first.

 

[JimBoy]

If you've run that many cycles I think you are ready.If you ran Test prop in the past you are used to the ed or eod pokes so the frequent shots shouldn't be a problem (assuming it's Tren A.)

If you are using Tren E, I would switch to Tren A so if you have to stop due to the sides it will clear your system faster. Also, make sure your PCT is strong. I'm about to start a thread to see what more experienced users suggest but my pct so far for my upcoming Tren cycle is: Primordial Performance Test Recovery Stack,
Unleashed and Post Cycle, low dose Clomid, and HCG on cycle.

 

[SouthPhilly]

If you've run that many cycles I think you are ready.If you ran Test prop in the past you are used to the ed or eod pokes so the frequent shots shouldn't be a problem (assuming it's Tren A.)

If you are using Tren E, I would switch to Tren A so if you have to stop due to the sides it will clear your system faster. Also, make sure your PCT is strong. I'm about to start a thread to see what more experienced users suggest but my pct so far for my upcoming Tren cycle is: Primordial Performance Test Recovery Stack,
Unleashed and Post Cycle, low dose Clomid, and HCG on cycle.

HCG 250iu's mon and thurs throughout cycle
PCT: Clomid 300mgs day 1 and then 150mgs for 6 days, 100mgs for 7 days, then 50mgs for 7 days for 21 total days
Arimidex .25mg's ED throughout cycle

 

[Dominator Human]

tren and all nandro's add another element to the cycle. more complex sides to combat. and it is definately harder to recover from. its sides are sometimes harsh. newbies are quick to make a mistake and screw themselves up. like not wanting to buy the right ai's because they are expensive then their nipples start to leak. it also eats at you mentaly by causing nightmares, agression, and insomnia. those 3 dont go well together. once you are more used to gear and the milder nandros your body wont have as bad of a reaction and you will be better at dealing with the problems.

tren is also potent as hell. why not save it until your gains die off from the other gear first.

I could not have said it better.

I ran Tren Ace after I ran 2 cycles with Deca just so I could know if I would get any Progesterone related sites.

I'm planning my nect cycle that will have Tran Ace and I already know the sides and how to handle them. Do a search on here and you will see so many Bros asking for help with the side of Tren. The worst side is the Tren cough. First time I thought I was gonna die and there is no way you can be prepared for this cause you will quickly forget about what you have read here cause you thinking you gonna die.

 

[chucktown04]

I'm currently toward the end of taking tren for my cycle and I haven't notice any side effects (I'm a first timer). No acne, night sweats, gyno, maybe moderate extra aggression do some people not get bad sides or could I have bad gear (which I dont think is the case because my results are really showing). Was I one of the lucky ones?
Cycle:
week 1-8 Prop 100mg EOD
Week 1-4 Tren 75mg EOD
Week 4-8 Winstrol 50mg ED

 

[KeepinMyGains]

I'm currently toward the end of taking tren for my cycle and I haven't notice any side effects (I'm a first timer). No acne, night sweats, gyno, maybe moderate extra aggression do some people not get bad sides or could I have bad gear (which I dont think is the case because my results are really showing). Was I one of the lucky ones?
Cycle:
week 1-8 Prop 100mg EOD
Week 1-4 Tren 75mg EOD
Week 4-8 Winstrol 50mg ED

People have to keep in mind we are all bio-chemically different. Example I can eat seafood and someone else might be allergic to it. Point being what someone might experience you might not ever have to.

 

[iron_matt-CB]

i have cycled about 4-5 times but not in ten years since i just started 4 weeks ago this cycle"

400mgs a week test cyp 12 weeks
300 mgsa week tren ace 10 weeks
50mgs winny ed 5 weeks


so far sides have been not bad...little acne and aggression but manageable

 

[HAYEZ]

i dont recommend tren for first time cyclers online because it always starts arguemnets and flaming...but to the juicers in the real world i know plenty that run tren as first cycles and everything is fine... i still never understood the whole side effects scare...ya get some acne ya lose some hair...big deal...ill take a back full of acnce and some shedding for a few months for 15 pounds of muscle