why are steroids illegal?

[strongchick]

this may seem like an obvious question, but I don't really understand the REAL reason.

Why can't doctors prescribe them? Isn't using steroids similar to getting plastic surgery...optional appearance enhancement?

I was reading the thread on what do you think of steroid dealers, and it occurred to me that I don't understand this whole deal.

Is there an incentive for pharmaceutical companies to make steroids illegal?

 

[freshr1]

The real reason is due to ignorance. If you look at the actual law, you'll see that any banned steroid is defined as anything which causes muscle growth. It's not defined by its side effects, or possible dangers.

I think that steroids being illegal to sell is a good thing though. Imagine all the kids that would go out and try them without knowing anything. We'd have farily big health problems. But I also believe that possession and use should be legal.. like it is in Canada

 

[spentagn]

doctors can and do perscribe them for hormone treatment purposes.

 

[K2_Exotech]

I believe one of the main reasons Gear is illegal is because of the horrendous attitudes the major increase of testosterone can cause, and to keep ignorant children from getting their impatient little hands on it and becoming stunted little gerbils running around with legs as thick as their waste.

 

[Lao Tzu]

i think they were legal (technically) until 1990. in england you can still import them.

they are illegal because 'persedint' bush needed a whipping boy to unite america (then saddam came along, and away went the war on drugs), so he went after drugs. one of the drugs was steroids.

simple as that. he could have gone after 2CB instead. or guns instead of drugs, etc.

 

[spongebob]

Is there an incentive for pharmaceutical companies to make steroids illegal?

they are illegal to have and use without a doctors script, my friend use to go to a dr and get them prescribed for hormonal therapy.
they are considered a schedule 3 drug, same as cocaine. some states even have stricter laws regarding quantity. i.e. texas law states that any possession of 16mg of injectables and more than 200 tabs it is a felony.

 

[spongebob]

this may seem like an obvious question, but I don't really understand the REAL reason.

Why can't doctors prescribe them? Isn't using steroids similar to getting plastic surgery...optional appearance enhancement?

I was reading the thread on what do you think of steroid dealers, and it occurred to me that I don't understand this whole deal.

Is there an incentive for pharmaceutical companies to make steroids illegal?

strongchick, if you want some basic info go to www.steroidlaw.com
he's promoting himself as a lawyer, but it is some info.

 

[Lao Tzu]

it happened way before President Bush you fuckin numbnuts. Are you 10? Do you know who the president was before Bush? Before him?

hmmmmm. i was referring to the anabolic steroid control act of 1990.
i know they were illegal before then, but not as illegal as bush made them in an effort to aid the war on drugs.

why do you have to be such a bitch, btw. did your wife buy a 10 pack of pencils, now you feel lonely & forgotten?

 

[‡ÅnãBöLïK]

why are steroids illegal?

Simple. Because they work.

Ex .. if the FDA some how found prohormones to work by actually using the higher dosages that most people use to see gains, than they would most likely be taken off the market right away.

Also, they obviously dont fit into the catagory that they are assigned to "class III" they are not hallucinogenic, depressive, stimulant ect...

They dont even have immidiate effects either like the other drugs they are catagorized with. Imagine taking E and having to wait 2-4 weeks for the effect .. exactly, they dont belong where they are fitted.

 

[spongebob]

Simple. Because they work.

Ex .. if the FDA some how found prohormones to work by actually using the higher dosages that most people use to see gains, than they would most likely be taken off the market right away.

Also, they obviously dont fit into the catagory that they are assigned to "class III" they are not hallucinogenic, depressive, stimulant ect...

They dont even have immidiate effects either like the other drugs they are catagorized with. Imagine taking E and having to wait 2-4 weeks for the effect .. exactly, they dont belong where they are fitted.

steroids stand out like a turd in a punchbowl in the class 3 category. its rediculous.

they had congressional meetings and were scared by the so called experts into believing they were bad. also at the time of the hearings teenage use was climbing rapidly and congress just had a kneejerk reaction.

 

[Lao Tzu]

Simple. Because they work.

eh. insulin & gh are still legal

 

[strongchick]

hilarious responses so far.

Thanks for the info.

Do we have any lobbyists trying to make them legal?

 

[strongchick]

the only thing I would lobby for is to get you exported you filthy anti american.

kingjohn is Satan's ass.

 

[roidog420]

Re: Re: why are steroids illegal?

they are illegal to have and use without a doctors script, my friend use to go to a dr and get them prescribed for hormonal therapy.
they are considered a schedule 3 drug, same as cocaine. some states even have stricter laws regarding quantity. i.e. texas law states that any possession of 16mg of injectables and more than 200 tabs it is a felony.

Just so you know next time.....COCAINE is a Schedule II.

 

[roidog420]

i think they were legal (technically) until 1990. in england you can still import them.

they are illegal because 'persedint' bush needed a whipping boy to unite america (then saddam came along, and away went the war on drugs), so he went after drugs. one of the drugs was steroids.

simple as that. he could have gone after 2CB instead. or guns instead of drugs, etc.

This is the best explanation I've seen on this thread. Its no wonder people hate politicains so bad. They take a segment of society & DEMONIZE them in order to further their political futures! How many families have been torn apart because of BUSH(and it WAS BUSH)trying to make himself look like he actually cares about dudes using gear?! He DOESN"T CARE ABOUT YOU or the fact that you may(or not)be hurting yourself....only that HE looks good. Politicians in the USA have declared war on their own people in order to further political ambitions. Luckily, the attitudes towards drugs have changed somewhat dramatically since 1990. California passed Prop 36. In New Mexico they have SIGNIFIGANTLY relaxed drug laws thanks to the Governor(Gary Johnson--I think), & politicians no longer have anything to fear by saying that they think that SOME drugs should be legalized. Ten years ago, that would have been political suicide & that is why NO POLITICAIN AT THAT TIME would have dared challenged the Anabolic Steroids Control Act of 1990. They didn't want to lose their jobs. Now that this terrorist shit has gone down, maybe the people & politicians in this fucked up country will realize that there is a REAL enemy out there, and substancially cut the WAR on Drugs budget. I hope it happens.

 

[chesty]

Without reading the whole post, they were always illegal to possess, except prior to the steroid act of 90 I believe they were only illegal as a prescription drug, which was like a fine if you were caught with them.

Then due to ignorance and against the advice of the medical community they were reclassified as class 3 narcotics. They have the same classification as heroin, coke, meth, etc. Most states it is a felony to possess now, some it is still a misdemeanor on the first offense, but then becomes a felony. Guess what it is a joke that it was done.

 

[theoak01]

because they can be dangerous,if a 14 yr old got them he would be fucked up,thats why,but its legal to have and use in CANADA WOOO,only good thing here

 

[roidog420]

Without reading the whole post, they were always illegal to possess, except prior to the steroid act of 90 I believe they were only illegal as a prescription drug, which was like a fine if you were caught with them.

Then due to ignorance and against the advice of the medical community they were reclassified as class 3 narcotics. They have the same classification as heroin, coke, meth, etc. Most states it is a felony to possess now, some it is still a misdemeanor on the first offense, but then becomes a felony. Guess what it is a joke that it was done.

STEROIDS----CLASS 3
HEROIN--------CLASS 1
METH------------CLASS 1
COKE------------CLASS 2

Man! Get it right people! Im not tryin' to be an ass but c'mon.

 

[chesty]

Schedule Abuse
Liability Approved
Medical Use Availability Examples
Schedule I High No investigational
use only marijuana, THC
LSD, mescaline, peyote
heroin

Schedule II High Yes written
prescription
with no refills amphetamine, methamphetamine, cocaine
codeine, levorphanol, meperidine
methadone, morphine, opium
amobarbital, pentobarbital, secobarbital
phencyclidine

Schedule III Moderately High Yes written or
telephone
prescription
with refills Tylenol with codeine, paregoric
chlorphentermine
anabolic steroids

Schedule IV Moderate Yes written or
telephone
prescription
with refills chloral hydrate
chlordiazepoxide, diazepam, flunitrazepam
meprobamate
methohexital, phenobarbital

Schedule V Low Yes prescription
not necessary Robitussin A-C (contains less than 100 mg codeine per 100 ml)

 

[roidog420]

Okay dude they are class three along with the other drugs. I used to bust people for them all the time.

Maybe you busted them---so what?!? Your still wrong. Check your info again man. Heroin---Schedule I--No medical use----an extreme possibillity of addiction. Methamphetamine---Schedule I---same deal. Coke------Schedule II----some uses in the medical field, but an extreme possibility of addiction. Steroids---Schedule III------Dont get me started. GOTO www.dea.com and check it out.

 

[roidog420]

Schedule Abuse
Liability Approved
Medical Use Availability Examples
Schedule I High No investigational
use only marijuana, THC
LSD, mescaline, peyote
heroin

Schedule II High Yes written
prescription
with no refills amphetamine, methamphetamine, cocaine
codeine, levorphanol, meperidine
methadone, morphine, opium
amobarbital, pentobarbital, secobarbital
phencyclidine

Schedule III Moderately High Yes written or
telephone
prescription
with refills Tylenol with codeine, paregoric
chlorphentermine
anabolic steroids

Schedule IV Moderate Yes written or
telephone
prescription
with refills chloral hydrate
chlordiazepoxide, diazepam, flunitrazepam
meprobamate
methohexital, phenobarbital

Schedule V Low Yes prescription
not necessary Robitussin A-C (contains less than 100 mg codeine per 100 ml)

Thanks. You just proved my point.

 

[chesty]

I was trying too!

 

[roidog420]

I was trying too!

O OK.

 

[Lao Tzu]

LOL

www.dea.com is dan evans & associates.

www.dea.gov is the government site.



here's indiana's drug schedule

http://www.in.gov/legislative/ic/code/title35/ar48/ch2.html

possession is a felony, 1/2-4 years. 2 priors gets you 3-8 years in prison. marijuana, for some reason, is only a misdimeanor to possess or sell. 35-48-4-10.

possession of benzos is a bigger crime than dealing hash brownies in my state. god we're stupid. no wonder we have to rely on indiana beach & the indy 500 to increase revenue.

 

[chesty]

In Kansas first offense is a midemeanor, 2nd is a felony and gets you the same sentence as coke at that point.

Okay, so I got the dea schedules wrong, at least I got the steroid class right.

 

[spongebob]

Re: Re: Re: why are steroids illegal?

Just so you know next time.....COCAINE is a Schedule II.

thanks for the correction. i should have went here.
www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov

 

[roidog420]

LOL

www.dea.com is dan evans & associates.

www.dea.gov is the government site.



here's indiana's drug schedule

http://www.in.gov/legislative/ic/code/title35/ar48/ch2.html

possession is a felony, 1/2-4 years. 2 priors gets you 3-8 years in prison. marijuana, for some reason, is only a misdimeanor to possess or sell. 35-48-4-10.

possession of benzos is a bigger crime than dealing hash brownies in my state. god we're stupid. no wonder we have to rely on indiana beach & the indy 500 to increase revenue.

THAT DAN EVANS IS A BAD MOTHER FUCKER!

 

[spongebob]

This is the best explanation I've seen on this thread. Its no wonder people hate politicains so bad. They take a segment of society & DEMONIZE them in order to further their political futures! How many families have been torn apart because of BUSH(and it WAS BUSH)trying to make himself look like he actually cares about dudes using gear?! He DOESN"T CARE ABOUT YOU or the fact that you may(or not)be hurting yourself....only that HE looks good. Politicians in the USA have declared war on their own people in order to further political ambitions. Luckily, the attitudes towards drugs have changed somewhat dramatically since 1990. California passed Prop 36. In New Mexico they have SIGNIFIGANTLY relaxed drug laws thanks to the Governor(Gary Johnson--I think), & politicians no longer have anything to fear by saying that they think that SOME drugs should be legalized. Ten years ago, that would have been political suicide & that is why NO POLITICAIN AT THAT TIME would have dared challenged the Anabolic Steroids Control Act of 1990. They didn't want to lose their jobs. Now that this terrorist shit has gone down, maybe the people & politicians in this fucked up country will realize that there is a REAL enemy out there, and substancially cut the WAR on Drugs budget. I hope it happens.

i agree and would like to add that it was congress that held hearings on this matter(steroids).
www.steroidlaw.com/history.htm

 

[spongebob]

help make steroids legal again.
www.decriminalizesteroids.com

 

[Winstrol the Pooh]

In New Mexico they have SIGNIFIGANTLY relaxed drug laws thanks to the Governor(Gary Johnson--I think), & politicians no longer have anything to fear by saying that they think that SOME drugs should be legalized.

Roiddog, You are right when you say Johnson is asking for the legalization of pot, but as far as our drug laws go they aren't any more lenient than most states...now the actual penalties here for posession might be a little different and possibly more lenient...to be honest I'm not sure on that 'cause i've never had a run in with the police due to drugs. However, Johnson has not been successful in getting legislation to pass the legalization of pot. I know where you're coming from when you talk about this though...many a time have I heard Johnson on the news pushing for its legalization and I think to myself, "damn i wish that jerk wad would push as hard to legalize steroids as he is for that fucking reefer shit." Oh well, he's a twig pothead throwback from the 60's who could care less about us bodybuilders...too bad though cause if he would push for gears legalization (which obviously would never fly either) then I would say, "there's a candidate worth getting behind!"

 

[thefantom1]

This article of complete bullshit did not help matters either...... He died from AIDS related complications.........

 

[Lao Tzu]

Roiddog, You are right when you say Johnson is asking for the legalization of pot, but as far as our drug laws go they aren't any more lenient than most states

come to indiana. dealing hash/marijuana is only a misdameanor, not a heavy felony like most states. you get in more trouble for possession of benzos than you do slanging hash here. no wonder there were so many hash dealers in high school. fuck, if i'd have known i can make $240 a day selling weed, and risk 1 year probation if i get caught i'd have been one slanging motherfucker.

 

[chillin408]

Other reason, I think it was mentioned is that these "experts" will say something negative about steriods and their word will be taken.. Not many people actually know how steriods work or about their safety, that goes from most drugs, all they know is whats good and whats bad, and thats it. And its only good when a doctor gives it to you...Exactly what americas educational system teaches you...to understand nothing..just know whats good and bad, and to trust the "experts",so the gov't can take advantage of you!

 

[the nature boy]

since I'm fucked up has anyone cursed strongchick on this thread? just curious. I was wondering if a thread about AS would make her exempt from flaming. but then again I'm fucked up.

 

[Wombat]

Sports are major business in this country---What would happen if they were legal here and Jr.high coaches were giving them to the kids---Steroid use is fairly high in high school sports alone today. Legalize roids and you would have most high school kids who want to play some sort of college sport on gear. And if they didn't take them, there chances of going anywhere in sports would drop somewhat---Think about it if your not taking them and every guy you go up against is ---Where are you going to be.

Bobby Bonds would be doing Anadrol/Test commercials----
Right now there is way to much money to be made in sports and for 98% of the kids that try to become pros in any kind of sport ---Just do not have what it takes. And thats even with a certain amount that do use some sort of steroid. So if all 100% of the kids took steroids, there would still be 98% of them that would never make it in the sport and what kind of damage would or could be done.

Steroids alone will not do shit for a person---considering most of the country sits on there fat ass anyway. Why in the world would a government want to legalize something that would only hurt people that are not willing to take care of themselves anyway. Injecting things into ones body is not seen as an O.K. thing to do. I'm fine with it being sports dirty little secret---But I do think that Bush went overboard with the 1990 act

 

[chillin408]

If steriods were legal then kids would have to be more responsible or pay the consequences(if any)for their actions. Today most of them are getting on high on weed and are alcoholics, so would it be any worse if they were steriod abusers ,than weed and alcohol abusers? Futhermore, If children can ruin there lives with gear, then adults can too. So making them illegal will just cause the government to ruin their lives rather than drugs. I think more lives are ruined due to the government intervention(arresting,jail, court, criminal record, forced couseling/therapy,etc.) than simply letting people live their life freely. This would also lower taxes big time.


In addition to drugs, many kids who are gonna abuse a substance are probably more likely to abuse their body in many other ways... for example..dirt biking and high speeds, backyard wreslting, fighting, etc. So the only the option to keep children completly safe is to lock them in a cage when there parents aren't around.

 

[notpuff]

help make steroids legal again.
www.decriminalizesteroids.com

due this website is no longer active its up but they dont do anything?

also pot might become legal roids in reality will never be legal again

 

[gymnpoppa]

Other reason, I think it was mentioned is that these "experts" will say something negative about steriods and their word will be taken.. Not many people actually know how steriods work or about their safety, that goes from most drugs, all they know is whats good and whats bad, and thats it. And its only good when a doctor gives it to you...Exactly what americas educational system teaches you...to understand nothing..just know whats good and bad, and to trust the "experts",so the gov't can take advantage of you!

The government has rolled out a massive propaganda machine against roids, as they did against all other drugs. I remember when they were legal. Roid dealers used to come to the gym with briefcases full of roids. They were safe, cheap, definitely no fakes. Guys made sure kids never touched them. Once they made them illegal, the black market jumped up, fakes, and the media sensationalized them.....thus making them attractive to kids.

 

[chillin408]

I agree, because steriods are legal in Mexico and I never hear of kids hurting themselves from juice.

 

[cman]

I think in Canada they were legal until 1960's. Over abuse of anything=illegality. Look at ephedrine, within 5 years it will be illegal. People abuse it like crazy, I know people who pop like 5 pills at a time, guys who sell it as a drug on the street for five bucks a pop, and people buy it, due to it's similarity to speed. It's
idiots like these who ruin it for everyone. But IMO if things get out of hand with a certain drug and people do not take required doses and abuse it, then I have no problem with it being banned. That's prbably what happened with steroids, just look at the dates it started to become illegal in, the one above poster mentioned England in 1990's, and Canada around 1960. People probably didn't abuse steroids in the old days. But knowing todays youth and drug use it's no wonder they're illegal.

 

[notpuff]

in englaND there legal for personel use