Why are people jumping all over William Bennett?

[75th]

Being black does not make you a criminal, poverty and hopelessness do. Now whether that is the fault of certain black people or a combination of things is another topic. One debated endlessly

Indeed, but all you have to do is click page #2 and look at the facts I posted.

I dont know, I just see it as since both "end results" are statistically accurate (which based on the numbers that have been available for over 30 years) why the hooplah for pointing it out?

 

[spongebob]

I disagree. His qualification after the fact was a statement that to abort all black babies would be reprehensible. He said nothing to qualify the inference that aborting black babies would reduce the crime rate.

You are right that he said the statement was outlandish but only in terms of aborting all babies of a certain race. It's a two part statement on his part and he only qualified half of it. Was that his intention? I have no idea.

ok then we'll leave it at that, in agreement on half of it.

 

[75th]

infact it seems "obvious" that he feels "aborting black babies will lower crime" as he very readily makes this example. Why did he not make an example of whites and white collar crime???

Statistically, both of those assertions are correct, whether or not you want to admit it. And if he did say something about white's performing more "white collar crime" I wouldnt see it as racist.

Much like the black/violent crime...the bottom line is that based on hard numbers that have been compiled for decades...it is a fact.

 

[gjohnson5]

I know but he piggybacked his ridiculous notion on what he apparently considers a commonly accepted stereotype. His comparison was that abortion being legal causing a Social Security issue today was as nonsensical as aborting all black babies to reduce crime.

In fact, he even reinforces his stereotype in his qualification statement:

"That would be an impossibly ridiculous and morally reprehensible thing to do, but your crime rate would go down," he said.

In other words, it would be morally reprehensible to do such a thing but it would serve the purpose in terms of what we are trying to do, lower crime.

Being black does not make you a criminal, poverty and hopelessness do. Now whether that is the fault of certain black people or a combination of things is another topic. One debated endlessly

This also happens to be the conclusion drawn in this post I made in the other thread which YOU failed to read:
Point number 3:
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Originally Posted by 75TH

According to the US Department of Justice, it is a common sense viewpoint:

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As of December 31, 2004, black males from 20 to 39 years old accounted for over a third of all sentenced prison inmates under state or federal jurisdiction. On that date 10.4 percent of the country’s black male population between the ages of 25 to 29 were in prison, compared to 2.4 percent of Hispanic males and 1.2 percent of white males in the same age group.


The crime rate is up due to alarmingly high numbers of african americans incarserated. All crime in America is due to one sector of the population.

What do you think the conclusion from this is going to be???

 

[75th]

The crime rate is up due to alarmingly high numbers of african americans incarserated.

LOL the crime rate is up because more blacks are in jail? Hahahahahaha.

 

[gjohnson5]

Statistically, both of those assertions are correct, whether or not you want to admit it. And if he did say something about white's performing more "white collar crime" I wouldnt see it as racist.

Much like the black/violent crime...the bottom line is that based on hard numbers that have been compiled for decades...it is a fact.

Good so you finally admit your fault...
If you feel that killing blacks will lower crime then this is what I was saying before. I don't care to hear your politics. or your interpretation on statistics.
This is also why the show got terminated. The consequence fits the crime and he was canceled. GOOD

 

[bluepeter]

Indeed, but all you have to do is click page #2 and look at the facts I posted.

I dont know, I just see it as since both "end results" are statistically accurate (which based on the numbers that have been available for over 30 years) why the hooplah for pointing it out?

My take is that it is different because end result number one is letting babies live and end result number two is killing babies because of the colour of their parents.

 

[75th]

Good so you finally admit your fault...
If you feel that killing blacks will lower crime then this is what I was saying before. I don't care to hear your politics. or your interpretation on statistics.
This is also why the show got terminated. The consequence fits the crime and he was canceled. GOOD

Uh, the show was not terminated. Believe it or not, Freedom of Speech does include those who you do not agree with.

And I posted nothing of "fault."

 

[75th]

My take is that it is different because end result number one is letting babies live and end result number two is killing babies because of the colour of their parents.

If he suggested aborting white kids born in the northwest to curb serial killers would anybody be upset?

Probably not...which is why I dont see anything wrong with what he said. Especially since he clearly did not advocate anything of the sort.

 

[spongebob]

I know but he piggybacked his ridiculous notion on what he apparently considers a commonly accepted stereotype. His comparison was that abortion being legal causing a Social Security issue today was as nonsensical as aborting all black babies to reduce crime.

In fact, he even reinforces his stereotype in his qualification statement:

"That would be an impossibly ridiculous and morally reprehensible thing to do, but your crime rate would go down," he said.

In other words, it would be morally reprehensible to do such a thing but it would serve the purpose in terms of what we are trying to do, lower crime.

Being black does not make you a criminal, poverty and hopelessness do. Now whether that is the fault of certain black people or a combination of things is another topic. One debated endlessly

well i think your starting to argue the merits of the statement now. and i think your extrapolating your assumption out of his statement.

i think only an idiot would think only blacks commit crimes, so really that extrapolation of yours is not even worth mentioning to make your point.

are you arguing that crime would not go down as a result of increased abortions? i dont understand.

i think where you make the mistake is that you assume he's suggesting being black makes you a criminal. that to is rediculous. do you really believe he means that? im mean the man is educated.