Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below
Why American's are so fat!
- Thread starter Pamela
- Start date
Bigsatan13
New member
Do you mean a cup is too much? I think if more Americans ate shreaded wheat in the first place they would be thinner. I think they are fat because they are lazy.
Lord_Suston
New member
I have yet to see one american have one serving.
All the fat reduce foods out there that have less fat but more carbs. It is amazing how many fat people are there and how little they excercise. Most people eat because they are bored and they eat untill they are stuffed, now sasiated. It is really disgusting
All the fat reduce foods out there that have less fat but more carbs. It is amazing how many fat people are there and how little they excercise. Most people eat because they are bored and they eat untill they are stuffed, now sasiated. It is really disgusting
Bigsatan13 said:
Do you mean a cup is too much? I think if more Americans ate shreaded wheat in the first place they would be thinner. I think they are fat because they are lazy.
No I think they eat so much more than 1 cup.
You are absolutely right they are lazy, eat to much and eat
fast foods.
vinylgroover
New member
I think the biggest probem is lack of exercise. Let's face it, eating is enjoyable, but combined with exercise it can remain enjoyable, without the lard.
Lifestyle and culture also play a part. Australian's love getting outdoors, going to the beach, swimming and playing sport, it's part of our culture here and it promotes a healthy lifestyle.
Lifestyle and culture also play a part. Australian's love getting outdoors, going to the beach, swimming and playing sport, it's part of our culture here and it promotes a healthy lifestyle.
I think it depends on which Americans you speak of.
The question "why are American so fat?" Is related to me as why are THOSE Americans so fat? Which I don't have an answer for. All I know is I'm not fat, my wife isn't fat but my 10 day old baby girl is definantly a lil fatty.
The question "why are American so fat?" Is related to me as why are THOSE Americans so fat? Which I don't have an answer for. All I know is I'm not fat, my wife isn't fat but my 10 day old baby girl is definantly a lil fatty.
Fast Twitch Fiber
New member
Fat people don't exist outside of the United States.
c-sharp minor
Well-known member
I bring 3 full meals with me every day to work and my co-workers scoff at how much food I eat. I tell them they eat more calories in one meal than I do in 3, but they still tell me I eat too much. lmao!
One co-workers attempt to eat healthy consists of eating an apple or 2 for his lunch at work. That is all he eats for an 8 hour shift. Of course, he then eats a huge meal when he returns home from work. He tells me what I eat is not healthy (brown rice, chicken and vegetables), because it contains meat.
Other co-workers consider a bag of chips, a chocolate bar and a coke, a meal.
There are guys in their early 20's with guts hanging over their belts. Pathetic.
One co-workers attempt to eat healthy consists of eating an apple or 2 for his lunch at work. That is all he eats for an 8 hour shift. Of course, he then eats a huge meal when he returns home from work. He tells me what I eat is not healthy (brown rice, chicken and vegetables), because it contains meat.
Other co-workers consider a bag of chips, a chocolate bar and a coke, a meal.
There are guys in their early 20's with guts hanging over their belts. Pathetic.
c-sharp minor said:
Yep! Pathetic... I work with em, I have a some vegitarian asshole who looks a blob with no muscle bitching about meat eaters like me. I told him to shut the fuck up or I'll eat him as well!
Doktor Bollix
New member
Fast Twitch Fiber said:
Not true. But our fat fucks are the fattest fat fucks in fat fuck land. In most places if they had a 300 lb woman they would put her in the circus. Here, they are a dime a dozen, especially down south. They just don't have the super-obese, 30 yr old people so fat they have to drive those little motorized tricycles around anywhere else.
I know beauty is on the inside and all but goddamn.
Everyone here calls my protein powder my "muscle builder". It drives me nuts. I try to explain that it's just food. I tend to drink shakes at work because it's a pain to drag in 3-4 meals. They tease me for not eating all of the donuts that get brought in almost daily. Everyone here lives on Mcdonalds and pastry....and they look like it.
It bewilders me how people can be lost as to why they're heavy when they refuse to exercise and explain that they always drink DIET coke and only eat bags of fat free jelly beans. Most people I know have more carbs in one meal than I'll have in 3 days. I can't imagine....not eating/training right makes me feel drained and depressed.
It bewilders me how people can be lost as to why they're heavy when they refuse to exercise and explain that they always drink DIET coke and only eat bags of fat free jelly beans. Most people I know have more carbs in one meal than I'll have in 3 days. I can't imagine....not eating/training right makes me feel drained and depressed.
Longhorn85
New member
Raina said:
I know what you mean babe. I was at my daughter's volleyball game last night and I saw this overweight high school teacher drag his ass up into the bleachers to sit down with his nachos and cheese. What was sad is that he sat down next to his fat wife, AND fat son who was only about 12 but clearly well on his way to an obese adulthood thanks to his live-in role model.
TC2
New member
ttlpkg
When is your next fight? are you ready??
Anyway, one of the main reasons is that people are just plain lazy, of course they eat way too much shit too.
All of my friends from highschool (I'm 26 now) are fat as hell, and every time we go out to eat, they gourge themselves to the point that they can't possible eat anymore.
Most of them are out of breath even doing very very light physical things.
When is your next fight? are you ready??
Anyway, one of the main reasons is that people are just plain lazy, of course they eat way too much shit too.
All of my friends from highschool (I'm 26 now) are fat as hell, and every time we go out to eat, they gourge themselves to the point that they can't possible eat anymore.
Most of them are out of breath even doing very very light physical things.
circusgirl
New member
Bigsatan13 said:
Do you mean a cup is too much? I think if more Americans ate shreaded wheat in the first place they would be thinner. I think they are fat because they are lazy.
Actually, I don't think Europeans are any less lazy - it's just the the default diet in Europe is a tad healthier. In the 2 weeks I spent on holiday in the US I noticed that in going to cafes, restaurants etc you really had to make an effort to make a healthy or semi-healthy choice on the menus. Not so hard over here.
The average Joe in Ireland, for isntance, eats boiled potatoes every day at home - healthier than fries or cheese nachos, and cafeterias reflect what the average Joe will eat....
It's just you have to try harder in the US, as so much crap is shoved in your face daily in the US in terms of food, cafeteria fare etc, and most people don't try. Most Europeans would be JUST as fat if they lived in the US.
I don't buy the crap that americans are more stupid/lazy/whatever than anyone else, that's bull.
A
Advaik
Guest
When I went to school I noticed that everyone I hanged around would eat junk food from vending machines. Chips, candy, soda, etc. No one would eat the lunch (which wasnt that healthy either but it's better than junk). All I would have is a bottle of water. I know not eatting for 8 hours isnt too healthy, but when I considered my choices, it was alot better.
Americans are fat because we are wealthy and capitalistic. Affluence plays a major role in food cost, and accessability. The majority of the world is skinnier not due to better food choices, but due to socioeconomic reasons. When Japanese women come to the US their rates of breast cancer increase due to switching to the American diet and way of life.
Europe is on par, economically, with the US, and there are cultural differences, but they still do not have access to food like the US does. In my visit to Germany, there were few fast food stores, 24 hour stores, mega-markets that have aisles of one type of food, etc.
Europe is on par, economically, with the US, and there are cultural differences, but they still do not have access to food like the US does. In my visit to Germany, there were few fast food stores, 24 hour stores, mega-markets that have aisles of one type of food, etc.
Doktor Bollix
New member
The fattest people in America are most like to be the poorest. There is a direct correlation between household income and the incidence of obesity as a medical problem. This is probably to do with education levels, though I would have thought everyone knew that a diet consisting entirely of mcDonalds and Kentucky Fried Seagull isn't good for you by now.
In poor parts of the world, being fat is a status symbol. In Africa the corruption of leaders is often explained by the "Fat Chief Syndrome" whereby the fatness of the leader is a totem for the overall health of the tribe.
In America if you are fat you are discriminated in the work place, make less money and I doubt you would get elected to public office.
In poor parts of the world, being fat is a status symbol. In Africa the corruption of leaders is often explained by the "Fat Chief Syndrome" whereby the fatness of the leader is a totem for the overall health of the tribe.
In America if you are fat you are discriminated in the work place, make less money and I doubt you would get elected to public office.
Doktor Bollix said:
You are correct, but in the US "poor" does not have the meaning that it does in other countries. Poor in Africa means you cannot buy food, "poor" in America means you can buy food that is cheap and often higher in fat and carbs. Without the wealth of the nation as a whole, the accessability of food would be compromised.
Doktor Bollix said:
My ex came from a 'poor' family and they were all fat as hell ('cept the ex).
BUT it wasnt an issue of education, it was income. Instead of chicken breasts, they would get the cheapest (and therefore fattiest) ground beef. And they would deep fry everything. They would just eat the least expensive stuff they could find, and its was always high in fat or sugar.
Silverback316
New member
I dissagree with the video games causing this. When I was a kid growing up not to long ago my friends and I played video games all of the time. We also played outside a bunch and played street football, baseball, hockey, and basketball. I ate as bad as a kid could eat and drank a bunch of sodas but since I was so active I burned most of it off. Now out of all my friends only one was fat and that was because he drank over 20 sodas a day and ate Mcdonalds and Del Taco constantly. We had video games to, but I see what you mean. I think it is numerous things to blame this on and not just one thing.Bullit said:
hippedy hop
New member
Doktor Bollix said:
dude it must suck to be fat!
does it?
Silverback316
New member
Radar is that your baby pic in your avatar? That is some funny shit man.
Lord_Suston
New member
it's the carbs
I work on a cardio unit and evryone in here if obese. Plenty of the peole are diabetic, most later in life due to lack of sensityivity of receptors. It is not healthy for people too consume as much carbs as they do. Literaly it is killing them, but will people listen no, they want their coke and beer. Then most people have it can't happen to me attitude, then I see them in my unit with their chest cracked open and a double bypass performes.... It is just sad to know people are poisoning themselves with crap food.
I work on a cardio unit and evryone in here if obese. Plenty of the peole are diabetic, most later in life due to lack of sensityivity of receptors. It is not healthy for people too consume as much carbs as they do. Literaly it is killing them, but will people listen no, they want their coke and beer. Then most people have it can't happen to me attitude, then I see them in my unit with their chest cracked open and a double bypass performes.... It is just sad to know people are poisoning themselves with crap food.
USA wallowing in unhealthy ways
By Nanci Hellmich, USA TODAY
International obesity expert Philip James was meeting with several weight-loss researchers recently in the USA when he jokingly told them: "Please don't change, because you have a wonderful environment to make everybody obese and diabetic, and the rest of the world will look at you and know exactly what not to do."
The pros weigh in
Millions of people in this country weigh too much and desperately want to slim down.
Coming next week:
On Monday. The latest research reveals that successful losers carefully monitor their diet and exercise rigorously. Also, scientists are uncovering the reasons for hunger.
On Tuesday and Wednesday. Profiles of other Weight Warriors, people with insights on losing weight and the battle to keep it off. They tell us what they eat, how much they exercise, their best advice.
James doesn't think obesity is a laughing matter, but he believes millions of Americans will continue to struggle with their weight unless the environment changes drastically. (Related story: Weight warrior: It's not that hard')
And he should know. James is chairman of the International Obesity Task Force, a non-profit organization fighting obesity around the world. The British nutrition expert travels the globe talking with policymakers about how to curb obesity epidemics.
He's one of the featured speakers next week at a meeting of obesity experts in Sao Paulo, Brazil. He's also working on the upcoming World Health Organization's recommendations on nutrition and physical activity.
Worldwide, more than 1 billion people are overweight, and of those, 300 million are obese, according to the International Obesity Task Force. About 61%, or more than 120 million people, in the United States are either overweight or obese, according to government statistics. Obesity is roughly 30 pounds over a healthy weight.
James says obesity is the biggest reversible health problem in the world. It increases the risk of heart disease, diabetes, high blood pressure, stroke, several types of cancers and arthritis.
Childhood obesity around the world is particularly disturbing, and the United States is one of the countries where it's the worst.
"You've got the most amazing catastrophe with an increase in Type 2 diabetes among children," he says.
As an outsider looking in, James says Americans have been "mentally conditioned" to believe it's an individual's responsibility to maintain weight, but he thinks it's a larger societal issue. "That individualism is one of your strengths, but it's a disaster in health terms. The assumption is that everybody is able to make their own decisions, however appalling the environment."
To maintain a healthy weight, anybody with a tendency to gain has to behave "abnormally and reject all the pressures to be like other modern Americans," James says.
Among the problems that he thinks are sabotaging Americans' weight:
Children are being bombarded with advertisements, and the majority of those ads are for foods and drinks that "any sophisticated nutritionist" would suggest eating and drinking only rarely.
"Your schools often serve junk food and have vending machines selling soft drinks and confectionary in an attempt to distract children from an appropriate diet."
There aren't enough ways to do spontaneous physical activities like riding a bike or walking. "You can't go to the mall without going in your car."
"You don't allow people in your streets to play. Your streets are built only for one thing: a motor car."
It's virtually impossible to go up and down the stairs in many buildings "unless you go into these appalling fire escapes."
"You have done everything possible to dissuade Americans from doing anything. What I'm describing has never happened to the human race in the whole history. You've got yourself into a vicious cycle."
Nutritionist Chris Rosenbloom, associate dean for the College of Health and Human Sciences at Georgia State University in Atlanta, says there's a lot of truth to what James is saying.
"Yes, it's a societal issue that needs fixing, but right now the bottom line is people make their own decisions," she says.
There are healthy options, but people often don't choose them, she says. "They supersize their fast food, and then they blame the fast food industry for their weight problems. If someone decides to take the elevator one flight down instead of walking the stairs, that's their decision."
She says the obesity problem is further complicated by the long hours people work, which leaves them little time for exercising and eating right.
James doesn't think simply educating people about the obesity problem is the solution. He says millions of dollars can be spent trying to educate people, and the impact on fat is negligible.
It has to be easier to do physical activity as part of your daily life, James says. Studies in Europe show the benefits of community bicycle paths. "If you don't have separate cycle tracks, you're not a civilized country.
"There is an enormous amount of research that shows you can completely alter the environment, and people will automatically get up and on their feet."
He believes the USA can fix what's broken, but the country must make some wholesale changes in the environment. "In the United States, more than any other country, you can take new findings and do things," James says. "It's amazing that you haven't got a grip on the basic principles."
By Nanci Hellmich, USA TODAY
International obesity expert Philip James was meeting with several weight-loss researchers recently in the USA when he jokingly told them: "Please don't change, because you have a wonderful environment to make everybody obese and diabetic, and the rest of the world will look at you and know exactly what not to do."
The pros weigh in
Millions of people in this country weigh too much and desperately want to slim down.
Coming next week:
On Monday. The latest research reveals that successful losers carefully monitor their diet and exercise rigorously. Also, scientists are uncovering the reasons for hunger.
On Tuesday and Wednesday. Profiles of other Weight Warriors, people with insights on losing weight and the battle to keep it off. They tell us what they eat, how much they exercise, their best advice.
James doesn't think obesity is a laughing matter, but he believes millions of Americans will continue to struggle with their weight unless the environment changes drastically. (Related story: Weight warrior: It's not that hard')
And he should know. James is chairman of the International Obesity Task Force, a non-profit organization fighting obesity around the world. The British nutrition expert travels the globe talking with policymakers about how to curb obesity epidemics.
He's one of the featured speakers next week at a meeting of obesity experts in Sao Paulo, Brazil. He's also working on the upcoming World Health Organization's recommendations on nutrition and physical activity.
Worldwide, more than 1 billion people are overweight, and of those, 300 million are obese, according to the International Obesity Task Force. About 61%, or more than 120 million people, in the United States are either overweight or obese, according to government statistics. Obesity is roughly 30 pounds over a healthy weight.
James says obesity is the biggest reversible health problem in the world. It increases the risk of heart disease, diabetes, high blood pressure, stroke, several types of cancers and arthritis.
Childhood obesity around the world is particularly disturbing, and the United States is one of the countries where it's the worst.
"You've got the most amazing catastrophe with an increase in Type 2 diabetes among children," he says.
As an outsider looking in, James says Americans have been "mentally conditioned" to believe it's an individual's responsibility to maintain weight, but he thinks it's a larger societal issue. "That individualism is one of your strengths, but it's a disaster in health terms. The assumption is that everybody is able to make their own decisions, however appalling the environment."
To maintain a healthy weight, anybody with a tendency to gain has to behave "abnormally and reject all the pressures to be like other modern Americans," James says.
Among the problems that he thinks are sabotaging Americans' weight:
Children are being bombarded with advertisements, and the majority of those ads are for foods and drinks that "any sophisticated nutritionist" would suggest eating and drinking only rarely.
"Your schools often serve junk food and have vending machines selling soft drinks and confectionary in an attempt to distract children from an appropriate diet."
There aren't enough ways to do spontaneous physical activities like riding a bike or walking. "You can't go to the mall without going in your car."
"You don't allow people in your streets to play. Your streets are built only for one thing: a motor car."
It's virtually impossible to go up and down the stairs in many buildings "unless you go into these appalling fire escapes."
"You have done everything possible to dissuade Americans from doing anything. What I'm describing has never happened to the human race in the whole history. You've got yourself into a vicious cycle."
Nutritionist Chris Rosenbloom, associate dean for the College of Health and Human Sciences at Georgia State University in Atlanta, says there's a lot of truth to what James is saying.
"Yes, it's a societal issue that needs fixing, but right now the bottom line is people make their own decisions," she says.
There are healthy options, but people often don't choose them, she says. "They supersize their fast food, and then they blame the fast food industry for their weight problems. If someone decides to take the elevator one flight down instead of walking the stairs, that's their decision."
She says the obesity problem is further complicated by the long hours people work, which leaves them little time for exercising and eating right.
James doesn't think simply educating people about the obesity problem is the solution. He says millions of dollars can be spent trying to educate people, and the impact on fat is negligible.
It has to be easier to do physical activity as part of your daily life, James says. Studies in Europe show the benefits of community bicycle paths. "If you don't have separate cycle tracks, you're not a civilized country.
"There is an enormous amount of research that shows you can completely alter the environment, and people will automatically get up and on their feet."
He believes the USA can fix what's broken, but the country must make some wholesale changes in the environment. "In the United States, more than any other country, you can take new findings and do things," James says. "It's amazing that you haven't got a grip on the basic principles."
It really irritates me that they're talking about taking legal action against "big junk food". Sure that stuff's not healthy, but it's no big deal in moderation. An occasional cheat day at McDonalds could be a treat (not my cup o tea but it is for some). It's flat out a matter of self control. People are weak and our society caters to those who wish to blame others (tobacco, fast food, etc) for their total lack of self discipline. That's BS. Do they want the government to set up rules to "babysit" their diets?? This is getting to the point of being laughable. Why are most people fat-- because they don't care to expend effort on training/diet. That is THEIR fault. Playing victim shouldn't be so acceptable.
Raina said:
We live in a society that thrives on ignorance and hype. I guarantee you that by the time the media finishes brainwashing our lower IQ TV zombies they will be sure of the following things:
- "Big Fast Food" is an evil empire designed to make adults and children eat supersized portions. Never mind the fact that most of these fat bastards don't even workout and they feed their small little children tons of junk to get them started (I recently saw this dip shit feeding his baby (about 1yr old) some McDonalds fries.
- All fat is bad, the myth has been around for years but whoever saw the last Dateline or 60 minutes or one of those BS shows last week would be amazed with the reporters lack of differen't fat types
- Steroids are evil and kill everyone they tough... Oh, never mind.. Guess I don't have too much longer to live!
- We are all retards and it's understandable we blame others because in a country of retards we need big government make decisions for our dumb ass!
etc etc etc etc
aurelius
New member
PlateheadJim said:
We live in a society that thrives on ignorance and hype. I guarantee you that by the time the media finishes brainwashing our lower IQ TV zombies they will be sure of the following things:
- "Big Fast Food" is an evil empire designed to make adults and children eat supersized portions. Never mind the fact that most of these fat bastards don't even workout and they feed their small little children tons of junk to get them started (I recently saw this dip shit feeding his baby (about 1yr old) some McDonalds fries.
- All fat is bad, the myth has been around for years but whoever saw the last Dateline or 60 minutes or one of those BS shows last week would be amazed with the reporters lack of differen't fat types
- Steroids are evil and kill everyone they tough... Oh, never mind.. Guess I don't have too much longer to live!
- We are all retards and it's understandable we blame others because in a country of retards we need big government make decisions for our dumb ass!
etc etc etc etc
I believe phenominon is called the "blameless electorate." Have you read any de Tocqueville?
Longhorn85
New member
TC2 said:
Not until next spring. I'm not ready yet, but I will be!
Speaking of gorging, how about those folks who dominate the all you can eat steak houses like Golden Corral, Ponderosa, etc?
It can be disgusting.
F
Frackal
Guest
My school took money from pepsi to put machines up everywhere....now how fucked up is that?
Frackal said:
Coke does it too..
That's the problem, the fast food industry gets
into the schools and kids start eating fast foods
at a young age and kids don't learn to eat healthy.
And then most kids come home and play one the computer and
not play outside..
Bad Food and Lack of Exercise!!!
Robert Jan
New member
America spends the most money on fitness stuff... diets, exercise programs... etc and they are the only country that so strongly combine sports with education... and yet they are easily the fattest country in the world.
Here in Holland, there is one Mcdonalds or Burger King for every 70 thousand people or so. thats one for every average sized town.
if you go there, they will sell cokes (just an example) sizes S, M or L. people will look at you funny if you order an L and your under 6 foot and alone.
in the usa, they are on like every street corner, and they sell S, M, L XL and Kingsize. (or something of the like.)
The kingsize ones sell very very well.
its the same with all food.
even good food. A steak house will give you HUGE steaks in the usa. Steak in a restaurant is 2-3 ounces max here...
Here in Holland, there is one Mcdonalds or Burger King for every 70 thousand people or so. thats one for every average sized town.
if you go there, they will sell cokes (just an example) sizes S, M or L. people will look at you funny if you order an L and your under 6 foot and alone.
in the usa, they are on like every street corner, and they sell S, M, L XL and Kingsize. (or something of the like.)
The kingsize ones sell very very well.
its the same with all food.
even good food. A steak house will give you HUGE steaks in the usa. Steak in a restaurant is 2-3 ounces max here...
Pamela said:
Kids are not getting brainwashed in school to eat bad, this is learned far in advance of school. Parents are responsible for their kids' diet. A Coke or two a day during school will not harm anyone.
Kids don't play outside anymore, not due to electronic games, but due to the changes in the neighborhood. Parents can't or won't allow their children to go out like they did in my parent's time. Everyone is afraid of molesters, cars, lawsuits, etc., so kids are crammed inside and they resort to TV and video games.
Not to mention that neighborhoods don't have the same children ratio that they used too. In the three neighborhoods that we have lived in since my son's birth, one had no kids, and the other two only had girls younger than my son, whom he grew weary of playing with, due to the difference in play styles.
TC2
New member
ttlpkg said:
Well good luck in the spring, and yeah I usually get pretty disgusted while eating at any all you can eat place.
People pile on the food and keep going back and then later they sit on their ass'es and bitch and moan about not being able to lose weight.
It also kills me when fat asses blame other people for their weakness.
My boss's(my boss is somewhat skinny) fatass wife blames him for her weight, she says that because when he eats sweets, she has to, and she eats CONSTENTLY,and never even considers working out.
The Varnsen
New member
Is that true that americans eat beef with chocolate? aha...
Robert Jan
New member
Star mad cow disease has been over for years.
whatever made anyone think holland is socialist.
sure its more socialist than the USA but then again who isn`t?
i think i may have the mass units messed up.
2-3 ounces is not rediculously small.
the average chicken breast weighs about 1.5 ounce.
whatever made anyone think holland is socialist.
sure its more socialist than the USA but then again who isn`t?
i think i may have the mass units messed up.
2-3 ounces is not rediculously small.
the average chicken breast weighs about 1.5 ounce.
Doktor Bollix
New member
Beef is cheap because of massive subsidies to the farmers in the Midwest. Nothing capitalistic about it at all, the command economy at it's finest. Lenin would be proud.
The cows eat corn, not grass as cows evolved to do. The corn farmers receive $4billion a year to grow corn. It costs them $3 dollars a bushel to grow $2 dollars worth of corn. We pick up the slack.
The oil that makes the fertilizer for all this is subsidized too. There's a gallon of oil gone into making that steak. The people who really benefit are the processors and industries like Coca cola whose sugar high product is derived from high fructose corn syrup, same as most of the crappy food that is making people fat. Corporate welfare gone mad.
The cows need antibiotics to cope with the unnatural diet, bad for us, a corn diet wreaks havoc on their digestive system, making it necessary to feed them antibiotics to stave off illness and infection. Even farm-raised salmon are being fed corn — not a food their evolution has prepared them for. Why feed fish corn? Because it's the cheapest thing you can feed any animal, thanks to the federal subsidies. Their meat is high in the bad fats, low in the good fats compared to grass fed cows and especially fish.
A recent study at the University of Minnesota found that a diet high in fructose (as compared to glucose) elevates triglyceride levels in men shortly after eating, I'l try and dig it up. But the American diet is being cornified.
Bad, bad for us.
America is way more socialist than people think. Take a look at Bush's $160 billion dollar Farm bill.
So don't buy Coke steal it. Your tax dollar already payed for it, don't pay twice.
I buy grass fed australian beef. Shit's more expenisve but my health is worth it.
The cows eat corn, not grass as cows evolved to do. The corn farmers receive $4billion a year to grow corn. It costs them $3 dollars a bushel to grow $2 dollars worth of corn. We pick up the slack.
The oil that makes the fertilizer for all this is subsidized too. There's a gallon of oil gone into making that steak. The people who really benefit are the processors and industries like Coca cola whose sugar high product is derived from high fructose corn syrup, same as most of the crappy food that is making people fat. Corporate welfare gone mad.
The cows need antibiotics to cope with the unnatural diet, bad for us, a corn diet wreaks havoc on their digestive system, making it necessary to feed them antibiotics to stave off illness and infection. Even farm-raised salmon are being fed corn — not a food their evolution has prepared them for. Why feed fish corn? Because it's the cheapest thing you can feed any animal, thanks to the federal subsidies. Their meat is high in the bad fats, low in the good fats compared to grass fed cows and especially fish.
A recent study at the University of Minnesota found that a diet high in fructose (as compared to glucose) elevates triglyceride levels in men shortly after eating, I'l try and dig it up. But the American diet is being cornified.
Bad, bad for us.
America is way more socialist than people think. Take a look at Bush's $160 billion dollar Farm bill.
So don't buy Coke steal it. Your tax dollar already payed for it, don't pay twice.
I buy grass fed australian beef. Shit's more expenisve but my health is worth it.
Robert Jan
New member
thats some interesting stuff Dr Bollix I didn`t know much of that.
I do however know that the system difference between Western Europe and The USA is very overestimated it seems.
altho many of our laws still appear socialistic these arent brought into practise. they are only there for the idealists to shut up.
if you end up in a financial rut your fucked as much here as in the usa. we have all these nice laws that are supposed to give them a proper functioning life but they only function to comfort the mass giving them the idea we are all being so good to each other.
ive seen it from up very close and been there myself. the justice system doesn`t allow the poor to get what are supposed to rightfully deserve.
and these laws are now being broken down as well.
Commerce and capitalism rule all here just as well as in the USA.
I think many people get the wrong idea when they visit europe because they will visit the typical old fashioned little communities of pittoresk coast towns in greece etc where the last remains of OLD european culture are.
12 yr old kids play on their Xboxes, Britney sells big and SPiderman fills the theatres just as much here as in the USA.
the only remaining differences are the USA`s low population density, their higher rate of obesity, their patriottism and their in my dutch eyes rediculous drug and sex laws. All of these seem to be caused more by the conservative mid southern states than the others.
The US fast food industry is not that much bigger than ours... we have places to buy unhealthy quick snacks on every street corner too. except theyre not part of huge corporations that advertise, and they sell much smaller portions.
I do however know that the system difference between Western Europe and The USA is very overestimated it seems.
altho many of our laws still appear socialistic these arent brought into practise. they are only there for the idealists to shut up.
if you end up in a financial rut your fucked as much here as in the usa. we have all these nice laws that are supposed to give them a proper functioning life but they only function to comfort the mass giving them the idea we are all being so good to each other.
ive seen it from up very close and been there myself. the justice system doesn`t allow the poor to get what are supposed to rightfully deserve.
and these laws are now being broken down as well.
Commerce and capitalism rule all here just as well as in the USA.
I think many people get the wrong idea when they visit europe because they will visit the typical old fashioned little communities of pittoresk coast towns in greece etc where the last remains of OLD european culture are.
12 yr old kids play on their Xboxes, Britney sells big and SPiderman fills the theatres just as much here as in the USA.
the only remaining differences are the USA`s low population density, their higher rate of obesity, their patriottism and their in my dutch eyes rediculous drug and sex laws. All of these seem to be caused more by the conservative mid southern states than the others.
The US fast food industry is not that much bigger than ours... we have places to buy unhealthy quick snacks on every street corner too. except theyre not part of huge corporations that advertise, and they sell much smaller portions.
Robert Jan
New member
I mean...
we get all your media too.
even the crappy stuff.
here in holland you can watch Jenny Jones, Ricki Lake, Oprah, Jerry Springer, Sex court, ALL YOUR TIME FILLING SHOWS.. bah
we get all your media too.
even the crappy stuff.
here in holland you can watch Jenny Jones, Ricki Lake, Oprah, Jerry Springer, Sex court, ALL YOUR TIME FILLING SHOWS.. bah
Star said:
2-3 ounces????
You know..................................................... My "Member" is at least 12 ounces!
Robert Jan
New member
How much is an American ounce?
a fucking real ounce, a metric ounce, is 100 grams.
if the average chicken breast is like 150 grams, I dont think a 300 gram steak is all that small. I wouldn`t even want to eat more than twice the amount of meat of a chicken breast in one sitting!
a fucking real ounce, a metric ounce, is 100 grams.
if the average chicken breast is like 150 grams, I dont think a 300 gram steak is all that small. I wouldn`t even want to eat more than twice the amount of meat of a chicken breast in one sitting!
Robert Jan
New member
BTW i thought this was quite relevant:
http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18892
http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18892
Star
New member
Robert Jan said:
Your conversion is WAYYYYYYYY off babe. 2-3 ounces is sooooo small. I don't know what chicken breast you are eating that is only 1.5 ounces but it must have just been born!! Use your index finger and put the tip to the tip of your thumb forming a circle and you have the size of a 2-3 ounce steak. Now cut that in half and u have a chicken breast about the size of a half dollar (the tip of your pinky to your thumb)
B
BO-CEPHUS
Guest
Robert Jan said:
300 grams? Big?
To me anything under a pound is a small steak.
Robert Jan
New member
OK for all you imperial bastards
1 pound is 453.592 grams
1 ounce is 100 grams
how the hell is 150 grams of meat like the size of that finger thing you put? thats like an average, perhaps very slightly small chicken breast. and they are more like 5 inches long too.
3 ounces of lean meat would have like 90 grams of protein.
why eat that much
1 pound is 453.592 grams
1 ounce is 100 grams
how the hell is 150 grams of meat like the size of that finger thing you put? thats like an average, perhaps very slightly small chicken breast. and they are more like 5 inches long too.
3 ounces of lean meat would have like 90 grams of protein.
why eat that much
B
BO-CEPHUS
Guest
Robert Jan said:
Because I would starve to death if I only ate a three ounce steak. That would not even hold me over for 10 minutes.
Robert Jan
New member
bah my standard adult chicken chicken breasts weigh 150-200 grams it says on the pack and it says o my scale and it feels like that in my hand.
they are a solid bite and im a 6"4 guy
they are at least 4-5 inches long and normal shaped.
GRRRR
they are a solid bite and im a 6"4 guy
they are at least 4-5 inches long and normal shaped.
GRRRR
Similar threads
