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Who Would You Die For ?

perkele said:
Are we still talking about war or a terrorist attack that lead US to war against Iraq?
well he stated that he wanted to live his life now so i just stated that if it wasnt for soldiers dying for his rights, he wouldnt be able to do what he wanted when he wanted to do it
 
SoKlueles said:
well he stated that he wanted to live his life now so i just stated that if it wasnt for soldiers dying for his rights, he wouldnt be able to do what he wanted when he wanted to do it

That would probably be true if Iraqies would be bombing the cities on US soil.
 
I ask the simple question... Why must people DIE for freedom?


Weapons of war are generally thought by the public to be guns, aircraft, bombs, gases, biological agents, troops, tanks and such material items. Yet, the most important weapon of war is the psychological, the propaganda and ideological campaigns waged both for and against the people on both sides of a conflict. These ideological campaigns must target and be waged at the most base emotions of the public. These campaigns must assert and prove that the war is sanctioned by and approved for the most altruistic of causes. In other words, the death of the enemy and the destruction of his power is my God's most important work on earth. To die in such a war is to insure the security of the world and the future of one's immortal soul. Place in war a people who believe those things with all their heart and you now have a willing death squad to place behind the guns, in the tanks, in the airplanes, in the factories and in the ships. That is the secret weapon of war - religions and their various gods.

Religion (and its attending doctrines) is not so much the cause of war as it is the excuse and emotional motivation for war. No war can be waged without the propaganda and ideological campaigns which stir the base emotions to a fever pitch either for defense or for offense. All the doctrines of all the religions says, "I am right and all others are wrong." "I am good and the others are evil." "My God is the true God. Your God is non existent, a false and evil god." "My government is God's government. Your government is the devil's government." Thus, with this weapon of religion, all wars are fought.

With this I present to you the true evil of mankind, the true devil of civilization, the true enemy of peace and prosperity of the world. The very worst concept in the whole world and in the whole history of this earth is religion. Religion is the most evil, the most destructive, the most tyrannical, the most disruptive, the most corruptive, the most seductive, the most injurious, the most ignorant, the most deceptive and the most useless concept ever conceived on this planet of our mother earth. Religion is a black hole devouring and eating the very heart and soul of mankind and his attempt to become civilized.

Even if there were a god, no good god could condone the use of such knowledge as that to destroy the civilizations, characters and lives of others. No good god could institute a religion which seduces the creativity of mankind and turns that creativity into killing and hating machines. No good god would command or condone genocide, murder, torture, starvation, cruelty, hatred, ignorance, deceptions, lies, theft of power, theft from the common treasury, destruction of nature's bounty, over population, cruel and unusual punishments, racism, elitism, censorship, prohibitions, manipulations of wealth, manipulation of history and facts, manipulation of knowledge and the manipulation of such an evil concept as religion. No good god would call GOOD evil and such EVIL as good.

If there were a devil the first thing I would expect him (her or it) to do would be to manufacture several different religions and claim that each one of them was the one and only divine and true religion and that all other religions must be destroyed or made subservient to the one and only true divine religion - yours.

(Thomas Blaylock)
 
OUT of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.
 
OK, here's our point since you obviously dont get it.

If you wouldnt die for freedom then you are a coward.

Freedom isnt free, it came from people that werent cowards who sacrificed their lives on the alter of freedom so that you could have the right to disagree. Something that the people of Afghanistan and Iraq many other places in the world did or do not have. Thanks to the soldiers who've died already, they will in the future God willing. You hate God, you hate freedom if you wouldnt be willing to die for it. If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem, thats your problem. If God be for us, who be against us? You and be people who hate freedom; the muslim leaders, the muslim religion that at its core says that if you dont believe in the message of the religion then you are an infidel and deserve death. The religion at its root preaches as an evil message, this is a struggle between good and evil. We are good, because we hold freedom as important and that is the message of God. Not all religion is bad, you are wrong, only the religion that says if you dont believe then you should be killed, that is the message of islam; the basis of islamic fundamentalism!~ the message of the government of Iran. I could go on and on explaining to you how the freaking world works but at some point you have to grow up and figure this shit out for yourself and stop being a coward saying you wouldnt be willing to sacrifice your life so that others may be free. So when you go out tonight and celebrate independence day, what everyone in this country is going out to do, look around and everyone having fun, little kids growing laughing mothers and fathers eating ice cream, barbecuing, just look around the fuck around and soak it up, look at this beautiful world that is around you, listen to God speak in the chatter of a brook next time you are out in nature and hear absolute silence, your freedom to be out there one with nature and hear God whisper to you in the wind and say their isnt God and when you are out there tonight watching the fireworks explode that veterans and forefathers laid down their lives for your freedom, may you feel the shock and vibration of the fireworks going off and the visuals in your eyes, the sound hitting every cell in your body as if a nuclear bomb went off and blasted you into infinity and just at that very instant that you hear the crack of the explosion of that firework, the very instant the visual goes through your visual cortex in your brain, the sensation of the smell of being around all over those people enjoying their freedom and their barbecues that they are cooking in the park, the moment you take in all of this with your senses at once. May you hear this CRACK (as if the universe was tearing apart, the universe stops expanding from the BIG BANG and starts the BIG CRUNCH and as infinity collapses upon itself back to the singularity from whence it came), may you finally understand this, that you are COWARD b/c you wont die for freedom. At that moment you realize that their is God and that you realize that he just smited you for not believing in him and saying God doesnt exist and the US is bad and the soldiers are bad or stupid for giving their lives up for freedom and the American way of life. The US is the shining city on the mountain, thats why people want to take us down, b/c of jealosy, if you dont understand this, then you need to figure it out or be smited by God, and trust me, it wont be pretty. Read my Heaven is coming to Earth thread to know the answer to all of this. Believe or be smited fools! That was your moment of Zen brought to you by Brothabill.

Just kidding, I hope you arent smited and the universe doesnt collapse on itself, but you never know who you might be talking to on the INTERNET and maybe just maybe you get it this time, I dont know how much clearer I have to be. Hitler didnt believe in God, neither did China and Mao Se Tung, religion doesnt exist and God is at the barrel of a gun and so on. Maybe some day you'll get it, thats what Im saying, that if you dont get it one day, one day you will. DO YOU FUCKING HEAR ME NOW?? I wouldnt hurt a fly though, why should you? Who am I? Why am I here? Who, what, where, when and why? Has just been answered, so its time to get a fucking clue?? ZING!! SNAP! CRACKLE! POP!! :lightning PWNED!!!!



















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SoKlueles said:
dang you typed that and didnt copy and paste:) sweet

Well I just want people to get the message this time, that there are no atheists in foxholes and when he or she is out there enjoying the fireworks tonight, may they realize that this may be the very last fireworks show that there is, that their heart may stop at any fucking moment and they may die just like I see happen to people in my profession of cardiac medicine and they could die at any moment, just as their might be a nuclear war started and it explodes at that very instant the fireworks go off right above them (that would be the biggest firework that they are ever going to see) just as I mentioned about them being smited, b/c they fucking are, TONIGHT! so when it finally dawns on them who I am, may they kiss their ass good-bye tonight and it will be in the fucking back of their mind, that question, who am I?? And what do I mean? Those of you who know me, know what I am saying? I am ZEN right and when that happens to them tonight like I said it is going to, then guess what the fuck that is, yup, you guessed it, its
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Do you fucking hear me now??? Does anyone not understand me?? And what that means is that every time they see a firework for the rest of their lives until the very last one, I want them to remember me, this thread, from this day to the next, every time they see a baby smile or see someone laugh, or do anything that they enjoy doing, I want them to remember this, that they are a coward, I want it tattoo on their soul from this day forward, I called them that and when they are standing at the pearly gates and St Peter opens up that big book to judge them and their lives so that they may go into heaven, may they remember me as they stand there sweating feeling that sweat bead roll down their forehead waiting to see if they get in. May they sit there and wonder if it was God speaking to them tonight through me and they realize they are a coward and my answer to them on whether they are going to get into heaven, do you know what my answer to them will be???? NO WAY IN HELL!!!!!! GoodBye!!
ENJOY THE SHOW TONIGHT!!!!!
 
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In the afterlife
You could be headed for the serious strife
Now you make the scene all day
But tomorrow there'll be Hell to pay
People listen attentively
I mean about future calamity
I used to think the idea was obsolete
Until I heard the old man stamping his feet.

This is a place where eternally
Fire is applied to the body
Teeth are extruded and bones are ground
Then baked into cakes which are passed around.

Beauty, talent, fame, money, refinement
Top skill and brain
But all the things you try to hide
Will be revealed on the other side.

Now the D and the A and the M
and the N and the A
And the T and the I-O-N
Lose your face, lose your name
Then get fitted for a suit of flame

LOL X INFINITY!!!!!!!
 
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