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Who uses Glucorellr (r-ALA) while bulking?
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kronk
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I use it everyday 365 days a year.
DeepZenPill
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I use between 1200-1600mg a day every day of the year. It definitely helps me stay leaner when bulking. I'm very sensitive to carbs; they'll make me gain fat easily, but I need them to gain muscle too. This is one of the 2 supplements I use all the time.
macrophage69alpha
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georgie24 said:
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DieselDan said:
yes. not if its pure R+ lipoic.
Moderate_THIS
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Can chronic useage of r-ala eventually desensitize the cell for glucose uptake in an analagous manner to metabolic syndrome?
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chaos mage said:
no
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heregothere
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no such thing as a miracle drug.
although i use ala, i wouldn't buy into all of the hype until it's been SCIENTIFICALLY proven; just because people on this board says it works doesn't mean it necessarily does.
remember andro? it was all hyped up and it turned out to be complete shit. be wary of supplement companies, they have proven that they would sell their souls just so suckers would buy the latest and greatest supplement.
although i use ala, i wouldn't buy into all of the hype until it's been SCIENTIFICALLY proven; just because people on this board says it works doesn't mean it necessarily does.
remember andro? it was all hyped up and it turned out to be complete shit. be wary of supplement companies, they have proven that they would sell their souls just so suckers would buy the latest and greatest supplement.
macrophage69alpha
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heregothere said:
first it is the pure R+ enantiomer of Alpha lipoic. WHose effects are quite different and much more potent than those of R/S alpha lipoc (regular ALA)
as to being scientifically proven
try here http://www4.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed/ for the thousands of studies and look to germany and other parts of europe that uses it as a prescription treatment for insulin resistance and adult onset diabetes.
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Moderate_THIS
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Effects of exercise training and antioxidant R-ALA on glucose transport in insulin-sensitive rat skeletal muscle.
J Appl Physiol. 2002 Jan;92(1):50-8.
"These results indicate that the beneficial interactive effects of ET and R-ALA on skeletal muscle insulin action observed previously in insulin-resistant obese Zucker rats are not apparent in insulin-sensitive lean Zucker rats."
Reading through a few studies, it seems ALA has a symbiotic relationship with insulin... good for the insulin resistant, overhyped for the insulin sensitive
J Appl Physiol. 2002 Jan;92(1):50-8.
"These results indicate that the beneficial interactive effects of ET and R-ALA on skeletal muscle insulin action observed previously in insulin-resistant obese Zucker rats are not apparent in insulin-sensitive lean Zucker rats."
Reading through a few studies, it seems ALA has a symbiotic relationship with insulin... good for the insulin resistant, overhyped for the insulin sensitive
macrophage69alpha
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CM,
very few humans are truly insulin sensitive, coupled with the human(partic. american) diet as well as the calorie excess of bodybuilding r-ala is a supplement for almost everyone. Not too mention the effects of steroids. and thats just based on the insulin sensitivity and plasma insulin effects. its anti-ox benefits are a whole other host of benefits.
btw-it is very likely that r-ala, given the course of research and its applications, will eventually become an essential nutrient (with its own RDA). a big step for any nutrient.
very few humans are truly insulin sensitive, coupled with the human(partic. american) diet as well as the calorie excess of bodybuilding r-ala is a supplement for almost everyone. Not too mention the effects of steroids. and thats just based on the insulin sensitivity and plasma insulin effects. its anti-ox benefits are a whole other host of benefits.
btw-it is very likely that r-ala, given the course of research and its applications, will eventually become an essential nutrient (with its own RDA). a big step for any nutrient.
macrophage69alpha
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1 in 3 people in the US are clinically insulin resistant, or pre-diabetic, it is estimated that as high as 75% of americans have some form of measurable insulin resistance.
though one thing that is relevant from the study is that some people are going to get more out of r-ala than others. Though this is true of all things.
the # of people that are into fitness and bodybuilding tend to have higher #'s of insulin resistant persons. WHY? because many of the people that are "into" BB and fitness are "into it" because they have or have had issues with maintaining wieght and body composition. The american lifestyle and diet are big factors.
though one thing that is relevant from the study is that some people are going to get more out of r-ala than others. Though this is true of all things.
the # of people that are into fitness and bodybuilding tend to have higher #'s of insulin resistant persons. WHY? because many of the people that are "into" BB and fitness are "into it" because they have or have had issues with maintaining wieght and body composition. The american lifestyle and diet are big factors.
here's the deal. I'm VERY VERY septical. I'll order a bottle on friday. I will take the time to finnish a whole bottle. I am very insulin resistant and carbs make my body fat % go up very fast. I would even like to post pics, but seriously, I didn't trained too much the last 4 months (has no work and no money to buy a gym membership lol, being a student costs a lot of money), so I'm like not too proud of what I look. So if it doesn't work for me, I'll tell everyone I lost money. If it works, I'll convince the most septical people I can.
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