who here thinks its time for a revision of religious values?

[junglist]

bascally I think of it like this:

the bible was written by man, just like the quran. the bible was written 2,000 years ago to help people lead a "good life," and allowed people to explain a lot of things that (at the time) could not be explained any other way.

2,000 years later, we know about pre homo-sapien forms and the theory of evolution is backed by scientific fact. (thereby invalidating the garden of eden and god making man as he is today) i mean, look at humans 200 years ago and look at them now. the average height, weight, musculature, brain size has significantly changed in this time period...

we also know about how people use religion and prayer as "peace of mind." actually, repetiotion has been a proven form of "calming the mind an body." just like using rosary bead to pray the hail mary 20x, meditating for ten minuted will produce the exam same physiological and psychological effects: lowered hear rate and blood pressure, muscle tension, as well as increased internal locus of control, evaluation of stressfull situations, and calmness...

now that we know about heuristics, the mind and body, biological, psychological, medical, physical, astrological sciences, isnt it a time to REVISE religious values?

human beings make the mistake of pitting science against religion. if you ask me, religion is simply a THOUGHT made by the human mind to help achieve answers to the unanswerable life questions. science is the PRACTICE of the human mind. instead of pitting them against one another, why not incorporate science and religion into a new pliable beleif system?

another example: in the bible, the actual location of heaven (when measured by astrophysicists) would burn a human form from the heat of the sun when in the area. (the bble also claims to resurect the human form before ascencion into heaven)

so maybe now that we know something new, we could "scratch out" that portion of the bible because we know something to be otherwise true?

f nothing else, this would keep people open minded to new things. this itself would help erase bigotry, racism, classism, and a whole other host of cognitive ills religion has laid upon us. (just look at the middle east!!!)

junglist

 

[huntmaster]

bascally I think of it like this:

so maybe now that we know something new, we could "scratch out" that portion of the bible because we know something to be otherwise true?

junglist

Na thats OK--I'll pass, but you could always start you up a cult!

sounds like you have a good platform for one.

 

[huntmaster]

2,000 years later, we know about pre homo-sapien forms and the theory of evolution is backed by scientific fact.

---Theory---

That's all, just theory--not fact.

f nothing else, this would keep people open minded to new things. this itself would help erase bigotry, racism, classism, and a whole other host of cognitive ills religion has laid upon us. (just look at the middle east!!!)

junglist

Yeah tham middle-easterners that are raising all the hell and using religion as a scapegoat----they are acting according to the Bible, aren't they----nope.

 

[junglist]

yeah, you are right. I mean, who needs change when were comferatable where we are at? jeez i mean all those damn people in the past who tried to give black slaves freedom, that was just SICK! i mean, it was something different, positive, and bettered the human race.

maybe we should all just keep our eyes closed, keep our ears shut and our voces quiet. that way we can just slowly slip into extintion...

oh and on another note, trying to parrallel my opionion with cultist views...a very intelligent attempt to keep such a rational thought under the blanket. I like how you use FEAR as a tool for CONFORMITY and COMPLACENCY. (maybe i should be put to death along side all those aclu freaks. shit, lets just start killin' everybody!)

junglist

 

[junglist]

isnt christianity (and all religion) just theory itself? wouldnt that make the theory of evolution AT LEAST as credible as the the bible? in fact, i think evolution theory is MORE CREDIBLE because there is FACT to back it up...

but i dont want to get stuck on the theory of evolution. that wasnt the intent of my post. no matter how far we may get scientifically, there will STILL be unanswerable questions. maybe ACCEPTANCE of things we KNOW AS TRUE to replace things that dont make sense in religion will bring people back to what religion intended: a good, moral, ethical life. perhaps one with
tolerance for diversity ??

 

[huntmaster]

I never intended to say that the ACLU should be put to death---I said that NAMbla should be thrown in prison or maybe even given the death penalty.

I am sorry about the cult statement --- that was a little harsh.
Please forgive me.

Anyway--I just believe in the Bible and dont feel that it should be altered. Thats all man.

 

[b fold the truth]

It just seems as if the original post has a lot of opinion in it. We do not know why the Bible was written at all. Do we even know who wrote what? There are more books in the Catholic Bible than others...yet it is still a Bible of Christianity.

Maybe Christianity is just a theory...but no theory has even taken a hold of my heart and made me feel this way inside.

B True