Thanks for all of the replies guys, I may go ahead and try it then and if the gyno starts I will stop the cycle. Also what is the minimum amount of winstrol that can be taken to counter the gyno caused by fina?? I have a friend who has some left over TTokkyo(SP?) winny tabs that he said he would give me. It would be enough to run 20mgs/day for 6 weeks. I was only going to run fina for six weeks so do you guys think that would be enough?