Who believes in timeout for children

[latinoheat6u]

I think it's nothing but garbage and will only promote undisplined kids later on in life. I hate it when I see poeple on those talk shows where they show there kids at there houses cussing, throwing things, and hitting there parent's. They always say could you stop or please listen to me! BINGO! No wonder why they act the way they do becuase they don't respect or fear there parents. Instead of time out, it should be times up. Guys don't take this the wrong way becuase I don't support child abuse in no way. I just think there would be a lot more better kids if they were displined for things that are wrong. I'm sure you all want to raise your children to be the best they can be. So, tell me your views on this topic? I will find this interesting to see what you guys think.

"Hello Squidward!!!"
-SpongeBob

 

[satanic goatslayer]

I believe in swift behaviour adjustment with a sharp piece of metal.

 

[latinoheat6u]

What no more replies then this? Let's make this a good one poeple.

 

[satanic goatslayer]

What, that wasn't good enough for you?

Greedy prick.

 

[HappyScrappy]

it has been shown time and time again in studies that rewards will in the long run workout better than fear of punishment - either timeout or physical - same thing as far as not working.

human behavior - if you have a reward, you are more likely to strive for it over instead attempting to stive forward in an effort not to get punished.

 

[latinoheat6u]

Santanic that's just wrong man!

 

[satanic goatslayer]

It is.

Black magic woman.

 

[latinoheat6u]

Who siad not to reward them when they are good? I believe in rewarding a child for everything he dose good in life too, but one would think with all this human behavior we would have some of the best kids right now. It all gose hand and hand. Spare the the rod,then you spare the child.

 

[Jersey Freak]

"five across the eyes" works rather well. kids today need a foot up their ass in order to hear what your saying. Not ALL kids, but 95% of them.

 

[latinoheat6u]

Oh yeah, there is some people who don't know who to displaine there children right too. Thoses are the ones that usually take there anger out on there children by beating them and those that are perfectionist so, making people who choose to spank there kids look like we bring up a distored little reble products of a child. Those poeple make us look bad. I believe you should just spank them hard enough to where it shocks or just hurts alittle. If people did that, then we be alright. Remeber, we don't want to kill our children now.

 

[Rex]

My old man put the fear of God into me, and my brother. I'm thankful he did. Taught me respect for authority, and no to step out of line. I'm thankful everyday for the way we were disciplined. All that "time out" is bullshit. You sit in a corner for 5 minutes, say you're sorry, go out, and do it again b/c time out doesn't scare anyone. But the belt....yes the belt was scary.

 

[gorilla_boy]

"five across the eyes" works rather well. kids today need a foot up their ass in order to hear what your saying. Not ALL kids, but 95% of them.

Children should not be controlled by fear. Aggression breeds aggression. It destroys self confidence and self worth. There are better ways of dealing with a child than corporal punishment or mental abuse.

 

[Warik]

What? Time out in the backyard with my belt? Why wouldn't I believe in that?

-Warik

 

[Warik]

Children should not be controlled by fear. Aggression breeds aggression. It destroys self confidence and self worth. There are better ways of dealing with a child than corporal punishment or mental abuse.

My dad had to discipline me with "aggression" once. Why once, you ask? Because I never gave him reason to do it again.

Aggression breeds DISCIPLINE.

-Warik

 

[gorilla_boy]

My dad had to discipline me with "aggression" once. Why once, you ask? Because I never gave him reason to do it again.

Aggression breeds DISCIPLINE.

-Warik

It destroys a child's trust in others.

Corporal punishment is unnecessary and cruel.

 

[alexiarenee]

I think it is a way better method than spanking...if it works.
There is also positive reinforcement that I feel is better.
Of course if your kid is the devil, then I guess not...
Like this though..
Pick the behavior you want your kid to change
Make a chart and put on the fridge
Everyday that goes by without him/her doing it, put a sticker for that day
At the end of the week, add up all stickers and make them worth something
ex..7 stickers=movie rental/pizza or freind over
6=go for ice cream
etc etc.......

 

[alexiarenee]

I think it is a way better method than spanking...if it works.
There is also positive reinforcement that I feel is better.
Of course if your kid is the devil, then I guess not...
Like this though..
Pick the behavior you want your kid to change
Make a chart and put on the fridge
Everyday that goes by without him/her doing it, put a sticker for that day
At the end of the week, add up all stickers and make them worth something
ex..7 stickers=movie rental/pizza or freind over
6=go for ice cream
etc etc.......

Dont forget to explain the deal that way your kid has something to lok forward to, and will be good.

 

[latinoheat6u]

Alexiarenee, I like what your saying and I dig your style. That's very good but booth displines should be implanted in there. That's even greater.

 

[latinoheat6u]

I mean both

 

[The_Ghost]

My personal opinion is the timeout thing is a load of crap. Little Billy just beat the shit out of little Mark. Oh yeah a little timeout in the corner will teach him not to do it again.

I see kids now a days as being worse then ever before.

When I was a kid, if I was bad I got a good old fashion spanking.

Am I screwed up becuase of it NO
Am I violent because of it NO.
Do I hate my parents cause of it NO.

I never got a spanking that I didn't deserve. My parents are great and I love them both.

My two cents.

 

[Jersey Freak]

Why must we "reward" our children for behaving?!?!?!?! Has our society become SO scared-shitless of Child-Protective-Services that we have to reward our children to behave?!?!? Thats total BULLSHIT in my opinion. If you misbehave, you PAY THE PRICE, just like "real-life". What are "rewards" gonna do??? It will just make the child think that if he/she does something "good", they will recieve a reward. So, when they become an adult, they can be disappointed?? Give it to them HARD.........and NOW.........this way they will be prepared for what is to come.

 

[HappyScrappy]

it isn't society, it is human psyche and brain chemistry.

look at coke addicts - do they listen to any of the negative signs of it? no - they are solely based on the rewards of it.

the brain responds positive physically to positive reinforcement whereas with negative it doesn't - you will only lead to psyche issues in that child - or rather, I should say you greatly increase the chances.

I totally agree that there are times when you can't stand what they are doing and you just want to knock the shit out of them, maybe knock some sense in along the way - but step back and look at the bigger picture.

you see the negative reinforcement as working b/c you hit them, and then eventually they stop doing it - so you assume that it is b/c you slapped them. fine. but there are too many factors at play - they are stopping b/c they chose to.

do a search on it and you can see the scentific papers on the research that they have done.
they can prove that the positive works and the negative is not there - it is only seen in the human brain b/c it percieves patterns where there are none.

and read A Demon Haunted World
(which discusses this throroughly in several places in the book)

 

[gorilla_boy]

Why must we "reward" our children for behaving?!?!?!?! Has our society become SO scared-shitless of Child-Protective-Services that we have to reward our children to behave?!?!? Thats total BULLSHIT in my opinion. If you misbehave, you PAY THE PRICE, just like "real-life". What are "rewards" gonna do??? It will just make the child think that if he/she does something "good", they will recieve a reward. So, when they become an adult, they can be disappointed?? Give it to them HARD.........and NOW.........this way they will be prepared for what is to come.

Wake the fuck up, Dipshit!

You are rewarded in the real world by being a good person. You are rewarded for doing the right thing.

Don't ever have children if you think it's a parents job to give them a taste of the discontentment you've brought on yourself.

 

[Jersey Freak]

Wake the fuck up, Dipshit!

You are rewarded in the real world by being a good person. You are rewarded for doing the right thing.

Don't ever have children if you think it's a parents job to give them a taste of the discontentment you've brought on yourself.

FUCK OFF Gorilla Boy..........How are YOU rewarded by behaving in the real world??.........YOU DONT GO TO JAIL........THATS IT......YOU wake the fuck up!!!!!! I didnt bring anything on myself, although i see kids today bringing guns to school, blasting their teachers, shooting their parents, etc!!!!!!! They need a FOOT in their ASS... NOT "therapy"!!!!!

 

[alexiarenee]

Alexiarenee, I like what your saying and I dig your style. That's very good but booth displines should be implanted in there. That's even greater.

I do agree...in that case i pick timeout with the rewards program...
1.explain timeout to them
2.when they dont listen to you the first time they will go to timeout
3.everytime the argue or talk back and do not go directly to time out its another 5 min
4.the timer doesnt start until they are in timeout and quiet...no screaming or kicking the door
5.may have to hold door shut and explain that until they behave the timer will not start
6.if they REFUSE to go, then take something away from them that they really like/use..like thier radio, or bike
7.they dont get that item back UNTIL they complete thier timeout
8. if they go to time out for refusing to do what they are told..for instance "bobby, please throw the trash"..""ugh! I'll do it later!"
"No, do it now please"..."can;t I just do it later" "Now you have timeout...you have 5 min"
9. when they get out of timeout, the STILL have to do what they were asked.........
what do you think???????

 

[alexiarenee]

Why must we "reward" our children for behaving?!?!?!?! Has our society become SO scared-shitless of Child-Protective-Services that we have to reward our children to behave?!?!? Thats total BULLSHIT in my opinion. If you misbehave, you PAY THE PRICE, just like "real-life". What are "rewards" gonna do??? It will just make the child think that if he/she does something "good", they will recieve a reward. So, when they become an adult, they can be disappointed?? Give it to them HARD.........and NOW.........this way they will be prepared for what is to come.

Whoa!!!
Please dont tell me you have kids!!!

 

[alexiarenee]

My personal opinion is the timeout thing is a load of crap. Little Billy just beat the shit out of little Mark. Oh yeah a little timeout in the corner will teach him not to do it again.

I see kids now a days as being worse then ever before.

When I was a kid, if I was bad I got a good old fashion spanking.

Am I screwed up becuase of it NO
Am I violent because of it NO.
Do I hate my parents cause of it NO.

I never got a spanking that I didn't deserve. My parents are great and I love them both.

My two cents.

Well this sit. would definitely require more than timeout--but if this kid is already doing those things- then I think more violence towards him will make him worse.

 

[The_Ghost]

I do agree...in that case i pick timeout with the rewards program...
1.explain timeout to them
2.when they dont listen to you the first time they will go to timeout
3.everytime the argue or talk back and do not go directly to time out its another 5 min
4.the timer doesnt start until they are in timeout and quiet...no screaming or kicking the door
5.may have to hold door shut and explain that until they behave the timer will not start
6.if they REFUSE to go, then take something away from them that they really like/use..like thier radio, or bike
7.they dont get that item back UNTIL they complete thier timeout
8. if they go to time out for refusing to do what they are told..for instance "bobby, please throw the trash"..""ugh! I'll do it later!"
"No, do it now please"..."can;t I just do it later" "Now you have timeout...you have 5 min"
9. when they get out of timeout, the STILL have to do what they were asked.........
what do you think???????

See my parents didn't have to waste steps 2 through 9, they told me what I did wrong, spanked me, I got the point, not to do it again.

 

[alexiarenee]

See my parents didn't have to waste steps 2 through 9, they told me what I did wrong, spanked me, I got the point, not to do it again.

with some kids it may not work

they get spanked, so they stop right then.....and do it again when they think you have forgotten....
the timeout thing may work better in making them really think about what they have done and change
keep in mind, I am talking about your avg. misbehaving small child
Not the crazy kids we have running around calling thier mom a slut and trying to kill thier little sister............

 

[gorilla_boy]

FUCK OFF Gorilla Boy..........How are YOU rewarded by behaving in the real world??.........YOU DONT GO TO JAIL........THATS IT......YOU wake the fuck up!!!!!! I didnt bring anything on myself, although i see kids today bringing guns to school, blasting their teachers, shooting their parents, etc!!!!!!! They need a FOOT in their ASS... NOT "therapy"!!!!!

You are obviously a teenager.

Do you believe in karma, Bitch?
If you are a good person, don't screw people and do the right thing even when it's the harder choice you will be rewarded in life. Period.

Learn that now or chances are you will be a failure.

 

[The_Ghost]

with some kids it may not work

they get spanked, so they stop right then.....and do it again when they think you have forgotten....
the timeout thing may work better in making them really think about what they have done and change
keep in mind, I am talking about your avg. misbehaving small child
Not the crazy kids we have running around calling thier mom a slut and trying to kill thier little sister............

I am sure for some it does work better.

I just see to many parents give their kids a timeout then less then 5 minutes later they are hugging them saying good boy/girl.

 

[gwl9dta4]

Way too much science in the raising of a child now a days. We have taken the simple concept of using a little physical punishement and developed it into a huge complicated mess. Stick to the basics, good communication and an occasional spanking. We are not as far removed from the animals as some may think, we respond to the simple law of the jungle the best and quickest.

I only talked back to my father 1 time. I said the words "none of your business" at the age of 11. Let me tell you, when that back of his hand made full contact with my cheek i instantle had an awakening. I had never, ever talked back to him or ANY adult male for years since.

Spanking and hitting may not be a effective for every child, espacially a problem child but it will work WONDERS for about 80% of the population. Where the time out bullshit and the scientific approach had led out society to where it is now. Kids cussing, spitting, shotting up schools etc... It really is an American Phemomenon.

 

[alexiarenee]

Way too much science in the raising of a child now a days. We have taken the simple concept of using a little physical punishement and developed it into a huge complicated mess. Stick to the basics, good communication and an occasional spanking. We are not as far removed from the animals as some may think, we respond to the simple law of the jungle the best and quickest.

I only talked back to my father 1 time. I said the words "none of your business" at the age of 11. Let me tell you, when that back of his hand made full contact with my cheek i instantle had an awakening. I had never, ever talked back to him or ANY adult male for years since.

Spanking and hitting may not be a effective for every child, espacially a problem child but it will work WONDERS for about 80% of the population. Where the time out bullshit and the scientific approach had led out society to where it is now. Kids cussing, spitting, shotting up schools etc... It really is an American Phemomenon.

You do have a point.

 

[Warik]

It destroys a child's trust in others.

Oh?

The only person in this world whom I trust more than my father is myself. By your logic, I should hate him.

Haven't you noticed that children who get spanked or belted get better and better, and children who get "timed out" get worse and worse?

I bit a kid in elementary school one day. They made me eat soap - bar soap - literally BITE AND SWALLOW. I never bit anyone again.

I answered my mom back nasty one day. Cursed and shit. She slapped my mouth and made me bleed. I never answered my mom in that fashion again.

My friend's brother called his mom a bitch last week. She grounded him. He called her something worse this week.

Nice.

-Warik

 

[theoak01]

my beliefs are this,if your kid swears at you hit them in the mouth,not hard but so they know not to do it again,it is not abuse it is correcting them,if a kid throws a fit spank there ass and if a kid hits you or destroys property a nice ass paddling is again in need

some more liberal views may be against this but to damn bad,i wish i had a few more smacks as a young child,now i have no control and know it

 

[Warik]

Why must we "reward" our children for behaving?!?!?!?!

Agreed!

Reward??? Wtf? Since when are people rewarded for things they are SUPPOSED to do!??!?!

That's like being proud of yourself for never going to jail and wanting some kind of benefits for that... WTF! YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO GO TO JAIL!!!

-Warik

 

[Warik]

Me at age <very younger>: "DAD... IF I BEHAVE GOOD CAN I HAVE A SUPER NINTENDO?"

Dad: "So that you stop behaving when you get your Super Nintendo?"

An excellent point. Kids should not be fooled into behaving with these little tricks. If a child complies, he will be behaving because he expects a reward. A child should not behave because he expects a reward - he should behave because he should behave.

There's no reward in the real world for behaving good, but there are many punishments for being bad. Why don't I use drugs or commit crimes now? Not because I'm afraid of not getting my reward, but because I don't want to have my ass thrown in jail.

Same with a kid. Why doesn't the kid answer his dad back nasty? Because he doesn't want to see stars for the next 10 minutes.

-Warik

 

[Warik]

some more liberal views may be against this

Pretty funny, eh? I thought it was the liberals who claimed that the government should stay out of the bedroom. I guess liberal policy has ifs ands and buts. Talk about inconsistency.

-Warik

 

[theoak01]

liberals don't know what the fuck they want,you should feel sorry for me,i have a damn liberal in charge here that has had his balls removed,and he doesnt talk to well either

 

[Latimer]

They can take a timeout after the assbeating.

 

[Rex]

Warik's story reminded me when I was little my father made me sit in the back seat while my brother got to sit in the front. I wasn't happy with that so I decided to kick his seat, and cry while he was driving. After 3 or so warnings to stop he pulled the car over, cracked me in the legs and said "You wanna cry I'll give you a reason to cry". I never kicked his seat again.

"It destroys a child's trust in others."

-Trust is earned. I trusted that my dad would not hit me if I did not misbehave. Low and behold he never hit me when I behaved.

 

[Warik]

Low and behold he never hit me when I behaved.

Yup... and society will never hit you when you behave either. Another important life-lesson learned through corporal punishment.

So Rex... has society given you any rewards (ya know... video games, free pizza, let you stay up past 11) for behaving? If so, where the hell do you live, cause society hasn't given me jack. =)

-Warik

 

[latinoheat6u]

Jezz, I finally got back from work today and it's good to have seen this thread put to good use.

One thing I have to argue with is what you guys said about problem childs. One of the reasons it dosen't work for them or is to late is becuase there parents have already raised them to be all missed up. You just can't try to change them at 5 or 10 years old. You have to trian them to be god kids and give them direction with displine when they are young. That's the key.

"Hello Squidward"
-SpongeBob

 

[Rex]

So Rex... has society given you any rewards (ya know... video games, free pizza, let you stay up past 11) for behaving? If so, where the hell do you live, cause society hasn't given me jack. =)

-Warik

What is this free pizza you speak of? All I ever got for behaving was not getting hit, and a "nice behavior" said to me. I learned that I don't get anything for stuff I am to do, nor should I expect it.

Everyone wants a frigging reward for shit they're supposed to do. Its fucking disgusting.

 

[HumorMe]

I think it's nothing but garbage and will only promote undisplined kids later on in life. I hate it when I see poeple on those talk shows where they show there kids at there houses cussing, throwing things, and hitting there parent's. They always say could you stop or please listen to me! BINGO! No wonder why they act the way they do becuase they don't respect or fear there parents. Instead of time out, it should be times up. Guys don't take this the wrong way becuase I don't support child abuse in no way. I just think there would be a lot more better kids if they were displined for things that are wrong. I'm sure you all want to raise your children to be the best they can be. So, tell me your views on this topic? I will find this interesting to see what you guys think.

I'm 40 years old and the father of two daughters ages 9 and 5. I personally believe "time out" only works in certain situations. These situations are certainly small time infractions such as not playing nice, arguing with each other, etc.
When the situation arises for more forceful discipline, they receive whippings with a belt. It's an extremely disturbing thing to do and especially on girls. I have actually given this punishment and gone into another room and cried my eyes out. My father always said while he was disciplining me with a belt that "it hurt him more than it was hurting him", I never understood how this could be until I had kids of my own. Kids need disciplining to survive in life. There is a very fine line between disciplining and child abuse. You have to understand that line and not cross it.
Every parent has their own way of disciplining their own kids. It's not anybody's position to question their form of punishment. I've learned from my kids that you pick and choose your own battles. Don't get me wrong, my kids get away with very little without a lesson being taught. I'm not a Hitler, but I am one who believes in old fashioned values. My wife is a 7th grade school teacher and the stories that she comes home with relates to me make me shudder from time to time. Discipline starts in the home and should be allowed in school. Teachers and administrators do not have the option of corporal punishment anymore and it shows in the kids attitudes at school. the times I had to bend over touch my ankles while the principal took batting practice on my ass, cured me very quickly from getting in trouble at school. If I did get in trouble at school and was punished for it by paddling, I had another whipping to face when I arrived at home.

 

[huntmaster]

When I was a young lad, there were three words that hated to hear . . . "get the belt"---Yeah thats right, im about to get my ass whipped and I have to go get the belt that will be used to do it with. (kind of a bum deal, eh?)

When I did wrong my dad would whip the snot out of me with the belt(only on my butt, never anywhere else) and then immediately following, he would sit down with me and explain what I did wrong and how much he loved me and how I should not do that again.

I'll tell ya, I really admire him for it now--He showed me that I was wrong and that there would be repercussion.

Years later when I was in my upper teens and was out with friends and they wanted to go raise hell, sometimes I would go --- but I was always more apprehensive than others and many times I Led the group in the right direction.

Now at 26, I know what respect is because of the way I was raised----corpral punishment had a lot to do with that.

My dad never hit me---but he did whip my ass and I am better for it.

 

[justwannagetsum]

I beleive in rubbing the kids nose in a shitty toilet, it works on dogs!

 

[gorilla_boy]

I beleive in rubbing the kids nose in a shitty toilet, it works on dogs!

Actually it doesn't work on dogs (I believe you may be using sarcasm). Anyone that knows anything about animal training knows that positive reinforcement is far superior to reactive force.

This thread and the backwards neanderthal-type thinking contained within is genuinely upsetting me.

This is my last word on the subject.

 

[Hannibal]

My son turned 2 a few weeks ago, and I am happy that I started with 1 warning followed by a spanking from the start (we're talking a whomp on the diaper that hurts his ego more than his tush). Because he knows from expereince that I only ask once, he (almost) never tests me. Because I spanked a few times consistantly, I have to discipline LESS overall, compared to others. That leaves me with more time to engage him in positive reinforcement. I'm always thanking him for his good behavior and helpful gestures, and he in turn is very good about thanking and encouraging others. Irrespective, I always look him in the eye, explain what I didn't like, and ask what he could/should do differently. I want him to understand WHY he should choose to act differently the next time. Without logic, he's merely in fear of the consequences.

Awesome reply from an undoubtly great mother. TIME OUT is a joke. I was taught to respect my parents rules...and they never tried TIME OUT. My mom just counted to 3

Now grandma....she still liked the trusty of Flyswatter. For those of you that have never been on the other end of a flyswatter.....its an attention getter

 

[latinoheat6u]

I've been hit with a flyswatter and BOooooy did go through some changes fast! That just made me think about the worst objet I was displined with was the padle with holes and was wet. OOOoooccccchhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Have anyone hear been displined in a private school? I use to to go to a private christian school when I was little.

"Hello Squidward"
-SpongeBob

 

[Jersey Freak]

Agreed!

Reward??? Wtf? Since when are people rewarded for things they are SUPPOSED to do!??!?!

That's like being proud of yourself for never going to jail and wanting some kind of benefits for that... WTF! YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO GO TO JAIL!!!

-Warik

THANK YOU WARIK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FINALLY.......someone that has intelligence. Gorilla Boy, i have a step-child, ENOUGH SAID. LOL............Its just that we certain "few" have the BALLS to say what SHOULD be done about misbehavior. I dont believe in ABUSE, but i sure as hell believe in PHYSICAL DISCIPLINE. Some kids, if not most kids, need a smack in the teeth to get it thru their thick skulls to understand how to present themselves and act accordingly. If you dont, 99% of the kids today will roll all over you and take advantage.

 

[gorilla_boy]

I said I had enough of this but this fucking idiot really gets me.

THANK YOU WARIK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FINALLY.......someone that has intelligence. Gorilla Boy, i have a step-child, ENOUGH SAID. LOL............Its just that we certain "few" have the BALLS to say what SHOULD be done about misbehavior. I dont believe in ABUSE, but i sure as hell believe in PHYSICAL DISCIPLINE. Some kids, if not most kids, need a smack in the teeth to get it thru their thick skulls to understand how to present themselves and act accordingly. If you dont, 99% of the kids today will roll all over you and take advantage.

It takes little in the way of "balls" to smack a child.

So step children are more predisposed to behavior that you believe warrants a "smack in the teeth"?

99% of all children need a "smack in the teeth"?

You are a bully. Pick on someone who can defend themselves.

 

[gorilla_boy]

I've been hit with a flyswatter and BOooooy did go through some changes fast! That just made me think about the worst objet I was displined with was the padle with holes and was wet. OOOoooccccchhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Have anyone hear been displined in a private school? I use to to go to a private christian school when I was little.

Now we're talking about using weapons on children?
Think back and think hard. Do you remember the fear that you felt at those moments? Do you want your children to experience fear like that? Do you really want to be the cause of that fear?

 

[latinoheat6u]

I'm not going to displine them that way. But the old fashioned spaking and talking to. Like I said there's good and there are bad ways to displine. Displine=Direction.

 

[Jersey Freak]

Re: I said I had enough of this but this fucking idiot really gets me.

It takes little in the way of "balls" to smack a child.

So step children are more predisposed to behavior that you believe warrants a "smack in the teeth"?

99% of all children need a "smack in the teeth"?

You are a bully. Pick on someone who can defend themselves.

"Balls" have nothing to do with it Gorilla Boy. Look at most of the replys to this thread and you can see that most believe in physical discipline. DONT call me a "bully", for i am not one. The term "smack in the teeth" is just that, "a term". It doesnt mean that i clench my fists and aim for the teeth for crying out loud! Matter of fact, in all honesty, i never struck my stepchild. What i DID do however, is grab her by the shirt and act like i was going to. I'm 6'5" and 297 lbs right now and i think with my physical presents along with a loud, stern voice she gets the point. BUT........it doesnt stop there of coarse. I have indeed told her that if she were my biological child (which i have none thank heavens) that i would smack the shit out of her. My wife has recently gotten more "physical" with her lately although and i'm glad to see that she's taking a stance to that effect. You have to remember, you dont live with this kid like i do, and if you dealt with HALF the bullshit i have with this kid, you'd think twice. I do think kids today DO need more physical discipline, without a doubt. Just my .02

 

[justwannagetsum]

This thread and the backwards neanderthal-type thinking contained within is genuinely upsetting me.

Now THAT'S FUNNY!

 

[gorilla_boy]

This thread and the backwards neanderthal-type thinking contained within is genuinely upsetting me.

Now THAT'S FUNNY!

You're an idiot.

 

[Mysterio]

Yes, I believe!