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Which Test=least Bloat????

NYMUSCLE

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what test should i use and how much in a 12 week gh,fina,winny,arimidex cycle

stats 5'7' 200 bf approx15%

looking for bf loss, hardness and vascularity
 
If your lookinng to cut go with prop. As far as water retention they're all going to hold water but the liquidez will help. I would goo at 500mg a week if this is your first time.
 
NYMUSCLE said:
what test should i use and how much in a 12 week gh,fina,winny,arimidex cycle

stats 5'7' 200 bf approx15%

looking for bf loss, hardness and vascularity

Well I would use Suspension since you will be shooting ED anyway.
 
NYMUSCLE said:
cornholio,

why would you use suspension??

i was told susupension is the roughest test on the body!!!

What is the logic behind that statement. I bet Greg Zulak made it...

'Pension causes me less water-retention problems that Prop.
 
I'd take Prop. It does have less water retention than other testosterones... and as far as brand, Viromones are the most popular... Testovit is cheaper and is 100 mg/ml rather than 50 mg/ml.

I'll be taking 100 mgs/day for 10 weeks.
 
sust is good for less water retention....but it you add .5 mg of arimidex to any test you should have less water retention
 
BA Labs. But get ready for the pain. Viromone is good, but twice the price. I've also heard good thing about Testovit. I personally like BA Labs the best because I don't believe that you can have prop w/o pain. Viromone and Testovit are supposed to be almost pain free. That doesn't make sense to me.
 
For you peeps who like prop better than suspension:


Have you guys tried both, under the same conditions.

Rule of thumb:

The "bigger" in term of molecular weight an ester is, the longer it stays in the system.

That is why prop is in and out faster than cyp.

That is also the reason why pension is in and out quicker than prop as there is no ester on it. Therefore less water retention.
 
cornholio,

i got the information about the toxicity of suspension on the website=MESOMORPH.NET under DRUG PROFLIES

can you comment on it????
 
NYMUSCLE said:
cornholio,

i got the information about the toxicity of suspension on the website=MESOMORPH.NET under DRUG PROFLIES

can you comment on it????

Looks like they are basing it on the fact that it IS in and out of the system so quick. Don't see any real basis for their statements though.
 
NYMUSCLE said:
cornholio,

i got the information about the toxicity of suspension on the website=MESOMORPH.NET under DRUG PROFLIES

can you comment on it????

Looks like they are basing it on the fact that it IS in and out of the system so quick. Don't see any real basis for their statements though.


Taken from their info:

"A few bodybuilders find that this fast-acting androgen helps harden them up proir to a bodybuilding competition. Some even take the drug the morning of a contest and claim it makes their muscles look harder and fuller."


I don't think competitors would use in pre-contest if the water retention was high.


Their negative statements about being androgenic, affecting HPTA, shruken testicles, blah, blah, blah are true of ALL forms of test.
 
Well,I can't say that I've seen any scientific evidence on which esterification would produce less estrogenic edema,as once the ester is detached,all we're left with is plain old testosterone in circulation.I would say that the shorter the ester chain,the potential for more test to be attacked by aromitase,as higher concentrations of T molecules are released at a given time.Just a hypothesis,I think you guys that experiment with all esterified(as well as non-esterified)can elaborate as well as I can from your personal experiences.Personally,I find the longer chains to give me less bloat,but this is an individuality response.And I agree,ANY test should be accompanied by an anti-aromitase agent if estrogenic bloat is a concern.
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:
Well,I can't say that I've seen any scientific evidence on which esterification would produce less estrogenic edema,as once the ester is detached,all we're left with is plain old testosterone in circulation.I would say that the shorter the ester chain,the potential for more test to be attacked by aromitase,as higher concentrations of T molecules are released at a given time.Just a hypothesis,I think you guys that experiment with all esterified(as well as non-esterified)can elaborate as well as I can from your personal experiences.Personally,I find the longer chains to give me less bloat,but this is an individuality response.And I agree,ANY test should be accompanied by an anti-aromitase agent if estrogenic bloat is a concern.

Damn - you should be a politician. Way to give an opinion. LOL!!!
 
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