my first cycle I used 750mg super test/e.w, 300mg QV deca/e.w., and 30mg QV d-bols for first 5 wks, and went from 175 to 205 after 10 wks.. finished with QV winny and stayed at around 193. I assume most of the gains came from the super test, and thought it was the shit, even though everyone knocks it. Definately up the dose to make up for underdosing, but its so cheap it doesn't really matter. 750 mg./wk. for 10 weeks costed me about 120$.