Which one for my cycle... CLOMID or PROVIRON

[the_Pikey]

I'll be stacking Winny with Fina, and depending on the damn mail, also EQ...

My question is, should I take Clomid afterwards because of the Winny?

OR

Take Proviron during because of the added hardness and antiaromatise properties?


... both is not really an option at this point for my broke ass.

 

[Nimrod25]

Since none of those drugs aromatize with the exception of eq at high doses, all u need is clomid post.

 

[the_Pikey]

Thank you Nimrod.

Only reason I thought it would be nice is because I am nips get gyno easily, and I am doing this cycle to cut up, thought the Proviron might help in that department.

Also, I am prone to acne, and I am fearing using Clomid because of that.

Any thoughts?

 

[Nimrod25]

Look at it this way, u need clomid post cycle no matter what. If ur worried grab some nolva just in case.

 

[the_Pikey]

Thanks. That sounds logical.

So if I basically HAVE to use the Clomid post,..

then would it beneficial to add Proviron during cycle, or Nolvadex?

 

[MikeyLikesJuice]

nolv and prov together work great when needed during the cycle, and the clomid after the cycle

 

[Nimrod25]

You probably wont need anything during the cycle because u are using weak androgens. Have nolvadex on hand just incase u get itchy nips.

 

[mlomker]

then would it beneficial to add Proviron during cycle, or Nolvadex?

No bro, only take the Nolvadex if your nips start to itch. EQ doesn't aromatize much and the winny should take care of any progesterone from the fina. I don't think you have much to worry about on this cycle. If you had the $$ I'd suggest arimidex during cycle but you don't really need it.

Acne sucks. I'm not even prone to it and dbol brought me a present this week.

 

[JA_RULE]

Nimrod,
Is gyno really a concern with Fina/Winny and low doses of EQ?
I know he said he was prone to gyno, but what if your not prone?

 

[Nimrod25]

Nimrod,
Is gyno really a concern with Fina/Winny and low doses of EQ?
I know he said he was prone to gyno, but what if your not prone?

Tough call, but since none of those drugs really aromatize I wouldnt worry if ur not prone. I certainly would not use anything unless I felt gyno coming on.

 

[the_Pikey]

Thanks alot for the GREAT replies.

They helped me alot!

 

[Nimrod25]

Glad to Help.

 

[lawnsaver]

I'll be stacking Winny with Fina, and depending on the damn mail, also EQ...

My question is, should I take Clomid afterwards because of the Winny?

OR

Take Proviron during because of the added hardness and antiaromatise properties?


... both is not really an option at this point for my broke ass.

You should be most worried about your HPTA from fina. Fina will shut down natural production of test faster than anything.

You might want to use proviron for the reason of the progesterone sides which are mostly linked to decreased libido.

Winny should occupy the progesterone receptor site enough to keep away any progesterone induced gyno, but the lack of libido might be a problem.

I would always use test with fina, deca, or anadrol, which all convert to progesterone. So if you arent going to use test, I would use proviron to aid with your sexual habits.

As Nimrod said, clomid is a MUST with all cycles!! Better be safe than sorry.

 

[Ryvor]

Originally posted by mlomker

If you had the $$ I'd suggest arimidex during cycle but you don't really need it.

Why would you throw in arimidex? Liquidex is cheaper and he's not using any test. He'll be okay with no arimidex.

 

[the_Pikey]

I would always use test with fina, deca, or anadrol, which all convert to progesterone. So if you arent going to use test, I would use proviron to aid with your sexual habits.

Yeah, but if I threw in some test for labido, now I would have to add nolvadex for sure to prevent gyno from the test sides right? Or is that still progesterone related and I would just add proviron along with the test.

Ug, this is getting too expensive.

I need to keep it simple... Winny,Fina,EQ,Clomid,......

 

[jarabbit]

Proviron sent my sex drive thru the roof and added some hardness to my physique, I was also dieting . Proviron is cheap and can't hurt to take 50 to 100 mgs a day, I save it for the last 2 weeks and post cycle month to help with things along with clomid.

 

[loomisH]

Pikey,
Fina is a harsh drug as far as sides are concerned and it can be hard to predict how you will personally react to this drug. I did a Fina/EQ cycle last spring and I got a mild case of rebound gyno after I discontinued use in spite of Clomid therapy. Also, the Fina fucked up my sex drive to no end. My libido was so low that I wasn't interested in sex at all for about a month after I stopped clomid therapy and it took about 4 months in total to get it back to where it was before! My advice is to run Proviron throughout the cycle at 50mg/day because this will help keep your sex drive in check. I would also keep running it at least until you finish clomid therapy (but preferrably for an additional week or two after as well). I may just be sensitive to fina, but with Proviron being as reasonably priced and effective as it is why not throw it in just to be safe? That's my 02...hope I've been helpful.

 

[lawnsaver]

Yeah, but if I threw in some test for labido, now I would have to add nolvadex for sure to prevent gyno from the test sides right? Or is that still progesterone related and I would just add proviron along with the test.

Ug, this is getting too expensive.

I need to keep it simple... Winny,Fina,EQ,Clomid,......

Drop the EQ and add the test! Fina and winny will give you a huge anabolism in the muscles. If you add test, the proviron should keep the estrogen in check.

You will lose your sex drive on a fina cycle without test or a dose of proviron no less than 50mg ED. It gets no simplier than test. It should be in every cycle!

The addition of arimidex or liquidex during your clomid therapy will greatly aid in HPTA recovery.