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Anavar at 50mgs per day or Winstrol at 50mgs per day? Also, does winstrol deplete the body of calcium?
Which is worse for the lipids?
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Goodfellow
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Winstrol is worse on the lipids.. at least thats what my past blood test has shown.
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UA_Iron
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In my experience with Dbol + femara my lipids were trashed, HDL down to 17. Exactly a month later after a high fiber diet, niacin and flax oil they went up to 40.
As ULTER will always point out: there's no evidence that a temporary reduction in HDL levels will have negative implications on the user.
As ULTER will always point out: there's no evidence that a temporary reduction in HDL levels will have negative implications on the user.
Well.....A LOT of factors come into fucking up the lipids. But please...fellows...lets not go off the subject here. Just want to know which will fuck up lipids MORE. 50mgs a day of Var or 50mgs a day of Winstrol? And WHAT IS too long to be on either one?
I'm asking because I have been on gear for a LONG time. I do not come off. And my doc checks me out all the time. My lipids and liver always come back great! Yes my HDL is a little low. But my doc says that my triglecyrides and cholesterol and LDL are so damn good...that I shouldn't even worry. And the same goes for my liver.
But get this! I've been on winny for 50mgs per day...and tests didn't come back so great. First time this fucked up EVER! My liver values are still within range. But they are at its highest EVER! My cholesterol is 181 but my Tris are 191. And my HDL and LDL....I don't even want to say. They are pretty fucked up! Really bad! But my HDL/cholesterol ratio is slightly over a 3. My doc said that that is 1/2 average of a risk. But still....I don't care. Fucking Winny did this shit to me! Damn winny!
But I like the winny incorporated with my Test and Tren cycle. The winny for some reason didn't give me that lethargic feeling. And it kept the progesterone side effects down! I'm in my 4th week of winny. I think I'll just go up to 6 or maybe even 8 weeks and I'm done with winny.
I'm asking because I have been on gear for a LONG time. I do not come off. And my doc checks me out all the time. My lipids and liver always come back great! Yes my HDL is a little low. But my doc says that my triglecyrides and cholesterol and LDL are so damn good...that I shouldn't even worry. And the same goes for my liver.
But get this! I've been on winny for 50mgs per day...and tests didn't come back so great. First time this fucked up EVER! My liver values are still within range. But they are at its highest EVER! My cholesterol is 181 but my Tris are 191. And my HDL and LDL....I don't even want to say. They are pretty fucked up! Really bad! But my HDL/cholesterol ratio is slightly over a 3. My doc said that that is 1/2 average of a risk. But still....I don't care. Fucking Winny did this shit to me! Damn winny!
But I like the winny incorporated with my Test and Tren cycle. The winny for some reason didn't give me that lethargic feeling. And it kept the progesterone side effects down! I'm in my 4th week of winny. I think I'll just go up to 6 or maybe even 8 weeks and I'm done with winny.
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UA_Iron
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try running niacin at a gram per day. It seemed to help out my lipids.
bicepts101
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winny
geoboy
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djufo said:Holy shit that's low. I'm naturally low in HDL so maybe after cycle I'm at zero and I didn't know...
the doc said it was the lowest HDL he's ever seen, and he has lots of cardiac patients
but my total cholesterol, c-reactive protein and homocystiene levels are really good even while my HDL is trashed by var.
UA_Iron : Dbol 40mg+test 500mg+ npp 300mg hardly moved my hdl -- was 35 3 weeks out with no special program and a 10 mg dbol bridge.
psychedout
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Here is what basically determines how bad a steroid is on lipids -- if it aromatizes, its not that bad, but if it doesn't, watch out, it's gonna get ugly.
Now, if you use a steroid that aromatizes with an anti-e (aromasin being the exception) your just as fucked as if you used something that doesn't aromatise.
Now, if you use a steroid that aromatizes with an anti-e (aromasin being the exception) your just as fucked as if you used something that doesn't aromatise.
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UA_Iron
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geoboy said:the doc said it was the lowest HDL he's ever seen, and he has lots of cardiac patients
but my total cholesterol, c-reactive protein and homocystiene levels are really good even while my HDL is trashed by var.
UA_Iron : Dbol 40mg+test 500mg+ npp 300mg hardly moved my hdl -- was 35 3 weeks out with no special program and a 10 mg dbol bridge.
I think it was the femara that wrecked my lipids.
It seems as if var is harsh on HDL's though. This is what everyone is reporting.
bicepts101
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Hahaha.....powned!!!!!
Well fellows....does Winny deplete the body of calcium???
bicepts101
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Carth said:
no...
bicepts101 said:
Are you sure about that? Because my bloodwork came back saying that my Calcium was a bit low! And this has NEVER happened to me before. And believe me! I take my multi-vitamins that has calcium in it. And I also take a Calcium, Zinc, Magnesium tablets later in the day. And all my proteins contain their own multi-vitamins and source of Calcium. So what would my calcium show up low????
geoboy
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Carth said:
I wonder how big muscles would look with a dowagers hump? j/k
I had the same thing. did a re-test a few weeks later, and it was ok.
you doing any diuretiucs? winny itself also has a diuretic effect and that could deplete calcium levels.
here's some drugs that will deplete calcium:
http://www.umm.edu/altmed/ConsSupplements/Depletions/Calciumcs.html
Nope! None of those.
bicepts101
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Carth said:
well not possitive...but medical advise says not to take winny if you have high calcium levels...
