which is better?

[xdiesel69]

didnt know where to post this so i posted it where it would get the most views

as far as health is concerned, which would be safer to take:

if juice was NOT an option
methyl 1 test or nolvadex (at recomended dosages)

i dont kno if anyone has ever just taken nolvadex besides at the end of a cycle just for a little extra in the gym but i have and it makes you feel great...methyl 1 on the other hand makes me feel like shit.

 

[genarr3]

Nolvadex is not a steroid, why it makes you feel great is beyond me. As far Methyl 1 test check out the supps forum here.

 

[dzulboy]

nolvadex suppresses igf-1 freakin pointless by itself unless you have a cancer to shrink

 

[Smokescreen]

Hey Dzulboy, did we already talk about this? I seemd to have forgotten. But you say Nolva lowers IGF-1 output right? But what if I'm taking exogenous GH??? Would that still affect IGF-1 output while using Nolva? Or is this only a concern for those NOT taking GH?

 

[xdiesel69]

so why do people take it post cycle?

 

[xdiesel69]

it makes ur balls produce more test...this started as me wanting nolva cause i never did any pct after my last inject of my first cycle like an idiot newbee. so i took it by itself to see if i could get my balls down and maybe shrink my gyno a little bit. it helped with my balls a little, made me shredded and veiny. my nips got a little better so i tried t up the dose to about 30-40 mgs to see if i could maybe get my nipples to come back down a little more...and as time goes on the lumps get smaller.

when taking it by itself at 30mgs a day, ur workouts are better, u become more leaner, harder, less bloated, stronger and ur own test levels raise. i like it by itself...and util im 20something and i actually need juice....ill just eat some nolvas instead of stupid prohormones that just bloat u, and ruin ur test production.

i was only asking for mylittle brother who is 15 and bought m1t...i would rather have just given him nolva in my opinion.

 

[Paulo]

i was only asking for mylittle brother who is 15 and bought m1t...i would rather have just given him nolva in my opinion.

Pardon my english but WHAT THE FUCK?

It is your duty AND obligation as the older brother to carry out the following objectives...

1. Smack the living shit out of him for buying ANY type of steroid, whether its a 'pro-hormone' or not.

2. After he's curled up on the ground in a ball crying his little eyes out, take his bottle of M1T and throw it in the fucking trash!



Seriously, if my little brother did that shit, or if I personally knew anybody that allowed a minor to use it, I'd be throwin down some roid rage with extreme predjudice.

 

[donsj]

I agree completely with Paulo. Hey man, you and your brother are way, way to young to mess with this stuff. At your age you probably have so much endogenous test floating around it would be like one of us oldtimers doin' 600 of cyp a week ! I know it is tempting as hell to just do shit and see what happens but honestly at a very young age messing around with any of the stuff you mentioned and all of the stuff you didn't mention is asking for an endocrine catastrophy. All things come to pass in good time. Just train hard and eat well. Good luck bro.

 

[xdiesel69]

bro im 19 thank you for the fatherly advise but i have learned my lesson. its my little brother that is the problem. i keep fuckin yelling at him but he dont understand, i kno he will learn his lesson just like me i just wish he didnt have to learn it the hard way just like me.

 

[slat1]

If you are getting something "extra" from usin nolva alone you have a bigger problem:
1. You need to take a look at your diet
2. Take a look at your program
If both those things are in order you will be making great gains for years to come... as long as you didn't screw yourself up by using juice at your age. Then you could be completely fucked!
Good Luck