V-SHAPE 2 said:
HAhahahahahahahah, good post...I can def relate
Why not use the sust bro?
Also do you mean 10 wks of test/deca or 10 weeks test then another 10 wks of deca?
i meant 10 weeks with the test and deca...or if u dont like deca u can use eq instead...i have seen 2 different ways to cycle these, actually 3, ill tell u all three...
regardless, it is usually recommended that, when starting a cycle, you should do 1 of 2 things...that is...kickstart a cycle with 4-5 weeks of dbol/abombs, or frontload the injectibles that you are going to use...that is the method i prefer, and i dont usually do orals unless my bfat is lower, or else i feel like a walking water balloon...being an endo/meso like i am...
for instance, in your cycle, you would use 800 mgs of test for 10 weeks...with either deca or eq at 4-600mgs a week also...(i usually use 200mgs of deca a week in all cycles because it basically temporarily cures my tendonitis in my shoulders...)so, if u were to start with orals that i listed, you would keep the test/deca or test/eq dose constant...and do the oral for the first 4-5 weeks, upon cesation your injectibles will have kicked in...on the other side...u would take 1600mgs(800mgs x 2) of test for the first 2 weeks, and then finish with the regular dose of 800mgs, and you would do the same with the deca or eq, meaning start with double the dose for 2 weeks, the finish out the cycle, the remaining 8 weeks, with the regular dose...this method has been taught to me by Zyglamail, and i havent looked back ever since(in terms of the 2x the dose frontload for long acting injectibles)...
now, onto the 3 cycles...
having said what i did before, and having decided whether to frontload or do orals, you can do 1 of 3 things...
1...do the test for 8-10 weeks, and do the eq/deca for an additional 2 weeks, so once u stop the test, u do the anabolic for an extra 2 weeks, and then stop the cycle...i have seen that many times...it seemed to be an old huck favorite

, it is said that by doing that anabolic an extra 2 weeks it solidifies your gains better...
so...8-10 weeks of test(optional frontload/orals), and 10-12 weeks of deca or eq...that would be the cycle...
2...
http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=151034&highlight=jonathanpeters
do that one, that was the most effective...i did it to the T, and found it was awesome, i personally dont like doing prop/fina for more than 4 weeks at a time...but change the doses accordingly to ur needs, and do that one...i loved it...and bigandy is now my cycle advisor, gotta love those bigandycycles...
3...or u can just do number 1, and not come off, change to something else, but that isnt usually recommended, but its a thought, do the 10-12 weeker and then just change chemicals used...
karma once again is appreciated my "going through it" loving friend
if u need anything else, feel free to post again, ill keep checking up on this one bro...
