where I came from

[itlnstln]

Where I Came From

You know it just amazes me, when i was about 15 I stepped into my first gym, (Boys Club - at our local Police Station.
I was SO nervous being there, cause back then I was about 6 ft nothing (still growing for many more years) - and I had never done anything except curl my Dad's old weights in the basement, along with some pushups, and situps - I was skinny, weak, but just ballsy enough to make an ass out of myself in front of my hometown peers.
I remember getting "the looks" from the older guys in the gym - there was our Lieutenant of Police - benching 500+ for 3-5 reps, - I was scared as hell, but my buddy found us an open bench and said to me - "come on, you gotta' start somewhere".
So I crawl under the bar (with 25lb-plates on it - 95lbs) - I remember thinking how wide the bar was. Now everyone in the gym watches as another kid cuts his teeth in with his first bench. I thought I'd puke - and NO I didn't even come close to getting it up. Then I sat up and the unexpected happened - almost all 15-20 guys in the gym who had watched said, - "you'll get it kid - the hard part's over, now go home, eat and rest we WILL see you back here tomorrow"..........
During the next months my bench went up, and I started to actually see "progress" with my body, and the natural test and the weights was almost "intoxicating" - (nothing I could inject today could EVER take the place of that).
Well, one night - 3 years later I was the last one left in the gym on a Summer Night and I asked one of the guys who ran the gym if I could start using steroids. (see this was around 91', but more importantly, Steroids weren't a "bad-word" in our gym. There were PLENTY of guys who used them - none of them FREAKS, just balls-to-the-wall lifters who were big, strong, and fukin hardcore.
The guy I asked stayed for an hour to two hours after the gym closed, and told me the benefits, misconceptions, but more importantly the Dedications that "roids" came with. He told me that if I showed him over the next year that I had what it took in the gym, (had to work out at nights only , cause that's when he did), he would help me with my first cycle.
Long story short - I did it, and at 20yrs old, he gave me the OK - hooked me up with the right guys, and back then (and should be NOW) my first cycle was to be 200mg of test/week for 12 weeks. When it was over - I put on about 10lbs of SOLID muscle - and I thought that was GREAT.......................

That's just one of my stories from when I was starting out, a story that you would never see in a magazine, or newspaper, because it it's not Drama...........it's just life - and something that I loved, and others didn't - and in a perfect world, the two sides can put thier difference aside instead of always JUDGING one-another, and feeling the need to hold one down, so that another can raise himself up...........

In my community - my town, - steroids were NEVER sold by drug dealers-pushers, they were NEVER in our schools, and you couldn't find them unless you put your dues in in the gym.

No one will EVER convince me that the above story contains anything morally wrong.

No one will EVER convince me that Law Enforcement should have EVER stepped in and tried to make what I did a "Crime".

ItlnStln

 

[wwebound4life]

Go Rocky!!!











TRAIN, EAT, LIVE LIKE A ANIMAL!!

 

[corporate ceo]

Right on, bro.

I can tell you have a passion for getting your thoughts and feelings out on paper. This should parlay nicely into your book writing...


The CEO

 

[itlnstln]

I've been away from this arena for awhile, (injury) and I come back and all of a sudden someone minding their own business, not dealing anything, trying to better themselves without asking for ONE THING from anyone else is being portrayed as a criminal-drug dealing-bloated-stupid-selling to kids-ruining sports-soon to die ass&ole


FUK THAT

seriously

 

[PolfaJelfa]

Good post bro

 

[immortalis]

Very nice post bro. Its always good to hear more personal experiences, and how people got to where they are today.

Im glad you actually had an educated "mentor", so to speak. I was completely uneducated when I did my first cycle. I was playing Division 1 college football... and a majority of my teamates were on gear.

I went my first year and a half and trained really fuckin hard. I ate like a horse, and I knew the entire offensive playbook almost better than any of the coaches. I never missed or was late to practice... bottom line is I worked my ass off harder than almost everyone else and I just wasnt getting the playing time that I felt I deserved.

Of course, I ran a 4.7 and had hands of gold. But when it came game time, the coaches want a guy that runs a 4.3 and can break a play at any time.

I had done everything I knew how to do both on and off the field. I became a better blocker... I lifted hard and became the strongest most physical receiver we had. I played Tight End and Linebacker in highschool... actually went to college to play TightEnd but wasnt near big enough. The senior that was there when I came in as a freshmen came in his freshmen year at around 175 pounds. He got on a few cycles and then he was our starting tightend at 255 and a fuckin beast. Of course, I didnt do any cycle when I got there... and I didnt get that big. But I was fast enough and had great hands and could run really good routes so they moved me out with the wideouts.

However after my first year and a half there, I just couldnt get fast enough. I peaked at 196 pounds at just above 4.5% bodyfat. So one day after a game, a buddy of mine who came in with me as a freshmen...he was pretty much my best friend my freshmen year, he came to me after the game and started goin off about how some dropped balls and blown assignments by some of the receivers really cost us a lot of opportunities, and that he was tired of seeing me only getting 10 mins or so of playin time plus special teams. Of course being close, we vented a lot to eachother so he knew my frustrations... hell everyone knew my frustrations.

After that season my buddy came to me and told me he was going to do a cycle. I thought about it night after night after night. I finally decided I was going to do it. I needed to even the playing field. It seemed like everyone else was doing it and it was known. But me, tryin to be the straight-laced hard worker was getting nowhere. It was so frustrating... working so hard all the time for little to no reward...plus the fact that the majority of the time your playing some really really big schools and just gettin your damn head busted all the time. It really helps the morale...

So my buddy, who wanted to be a vet. got online and "did some research". He said we should do a cycle of test. I was in. I didnt care.

We had no idea what we were doing. I just relied on him and his knowledge... and now that I am much more educated on the subject, I realize he didnt know shit. We cycled all wrong... didnt do any PCT... nothin. And what was the sad part was, we both thought it was great. We both had awesome size and strength gains.

I got bigger, faster and stronger. During the off season and spring training I was at 216 pounds, and I was running about a just below a 4.6 40. I must say... I was nasty. When the season rolled around I had stabalized at 206 and was back below 6% bodyfat. I was extremely extremely happy with my results. I only did 1 more cycle during college, and after that I was off gear for quite a while. I didnt need to get any bigger than I was at that point. I was a receiver for gods sake, not a strong safety heh.

So a few years after I graduate I end up seeing a teamate here and there. I bumped into a few of the major users back then and they looked horrible. It really raised a red flag for me.

It was at that point that I decided that I wanted to know for myself exactly what I had done to my body. So I did research on my own. That research actually led me to this board where I lurked for a little while before registering. I never wanted to be associated with use, so I was hesitant to even register to a bodybuilding forum. So I lurked on a lot of sites, but this one is definitely the best. I worked really hard for what I had prior to getting on gear. I busted my ass more than 99% of the rest of the members of the team. I work hard in virtually all aspects of my life. And when someone asks me if Im a frequent user because of my body... even tho i have used a few times... it really irritates the crap out of me because the general public thinks that taking steroids instantly turns you into a god. It basically negates all of the hardwork that I have put in over all these years in everyones mind because they think im "Barry Bonds".

Oh well... gotta cut this short, wife and I gotta run accross town. But thats a brief synopsis of my first experience with gear, and why.

Hope you enjoyed.

 

[immortalis]

guess i took too long writin that to be the first reply heh, kinda got carried away goin down memory lane

 

[immortalis]

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We had no idea what we were doing. I just relied on him and his knowledge... and now that I am much more educated on the subject, I realize he didnt know shit. We cycled all wrong... didnt do any PCT... nothin. And what was the sad part was, we both thought it was great. We both had awesome size and strength gains.

This is a point that I really wanted to hit on by the way. I meant to say more about it and how it relates to young guys today. I hope that some young person out there who is contemplating using will read that and understand that there is a lot to educate yourself on prior to jumping into these waters. Its a dangerous game playing with your body the way that gear does, and if not done properly... it can have disasterous results.

We had NO idea what we were doing. But we liked the results. It could have easily continued and we could have easily been really messed up, or even dead by now. Thats a scary thought. Some kids out there, not knowing what they are doing...but liking the results so they think they must be doing something right, and just continue using? Scary thought.

Since I came out of lurker status, I have seen post after post after post of uneducated "kids" coming here for advise. Its been real good working with some of you guys here and helping set these people on the right path... and most of the time without AS. Most people just want a quick fix, and dont understand that with minor structure changes to ones diet and training, they can virtually achieve most typical goals that they could ever want. And when it does come time to really give someone advise on a cycle, it feels really good knowing that there are a lot of educated people around here that are very passionate about safety and every other possible aspect of steroid use, who are more than willing... hell even want to give you that advise.

My advise to any newbie that comes around and may see this post. Listen to the veterans advise around here. They want whats best for you. They want you to be successful. But most of all, we all want to see you be safe and understand what you and your body is doing.


shit, i just got carried away again. Man the wife is pissed! lol IM OUT

 

[itlnstln]

Very nice post bro. Its always good to hear more personal experiences, and how people got to where they are today.

Im glad you actually had an educated "mentor", so to speak. I was completely uneducated when I did my first cycle. I was playing Division 1 college football... and a majority of my teamates were on gear.

I went my first year and a half and trained really fuckin hard. I ate like a horse, and I knew the entire offensive playbook almost better than any of the coaches. I never missed or was late to practice... bottom line is I worked my ass off harder than almost everyone else and I just wasnt getting the playing time that I felt I deserved.

Of course, I ran a 4.7 and had hands of gold. But when it came game time, the coaches want a guy that runs a 4.3 and can break a play at any time.

I had done everything I knew how to do both on and off the field. I became a better blocker... I lifted hard and became the strongest most physical receiver we had. I played Tight End and Linebacker in highschool... actually went to college to play TightEnd but wasnt near big enough. The senior that was there when I came in as a freshmen came in his freshmen year at around 175 pounds. He got on a few cycles and then he was our starting tightend at 255 and a fuckin beast. Of course, I didnt do any cycle when I got there... and I didnt get that big. But I was fast enough and had great hands and could run really good routes so they moved me out with the wideouts.

However after my first year and a half there, I just couldnt get fast enough. I peaked at 196 pounds at just above 4.5% bodyfat. So one day after a game, a buddy of mine who came in with me as a freshmen...he was pretty much my best friend my freshmen year, he came to me after the game and started goin off about how some dropped balls and blown assignments by some of the receivers really cost us a lot of opportunities, and that he was tired of seeing me only getting 10 mins or so of playin time plus special teams. Of course being close, we vented a lot to eachother so he knew my frustrations... hell everyone knew my frustrations.

After that season my buddy came to me and told me he was going to do a cycle. I thought about it night after night after night. I finally decided I was going to do it. I needed to even the playing field. It seemed like everyone else was doing it and it was known. But me, tryin to be the straight-laced hard worker was getting nowhere. It was so frustrating... working so hard all the time for little to no reward...plus the fact that the majority of the time your playing some really really big schools and just gettin your damn head busted all the time. It really helps the morale...

So my buddy, who wanted to be a vet. got online and "did some research". He said we should do a cycle of test. I was in. I didnt care.

We had no idea what we were doing. I just relied on him and his knowledge... and now that I am much more educated on the subject, I realize he didnt know shit. We cycled all wrong... didnt do any PCT... nothin. And what was the sad part was, we both thought it was great. We both had awesome size and strength gains.

I got bigger, faster and stronger. During the off season and spring training I was at 216 pounds, and I was running about a just below a 4.6 40. I must say... I was nasty. When the season rolled around I had stabalized at 206 and was back below 6% bodyfat. I was extremely extremely happy with my results. I only did 1 more cycle during college, and after that I was off gear for quite a while. I didnt need to get any bigger than I was at that point. I was a receiver for gods sake, not a strong safety heh.

So a few years after I graduate I end up seeing a teamate here and there. I bumped into a few of the major users back then and they looked horrible. It really raised a red flag for me.

It was at that point that I decided that I wanted to know for myself exactly what I had done to my body. So I did research on my own. That research actually led me to this board where I lurked for a little while before registering. I never wanted to be associated with use, so I was hesitant to even register to a bodybuilding forum. So I lurked on a lot of sites, but this one is definitely the best. I worked really hard for what I had prior to getting on gear. I busted my ass more than 99% of the rest of the members of the team. I work hard in virtually all aspects of my life. And when someone asks me if Im a frequent user because of my body... even tho i have used a few times... it really irritates the crap out of me because the general public thinks that taking steroids instantly turns you into a god. It basically negates all of the hardwork that I have put in over all these years in everyones mind because they think im "Barry Bonds".

Oh well... gotta cut this short, wife and I gotta run accross town. But thats a brief synopsis of my first experience with gear, and why.

Hope you enjoyed.

Priceless Story bro

 

[itlnstln]

This is a point that I really wanted to hit on by the way. I meant to say more about it and how it relates to young guys today. I hope that some young person out there who is contemplating using will read that and understand that there is a lot to educate yourself on prior to jumping into these waters. Its a dangerous game playing with your body the way that gear does, and if not done properly... it can have disasterous results.

Since I came out of lurker status, I have seen post after post after post of uneducated "kids" coming here for advise. Its been real good working with some of you guys here and helping set these people on the right path... and most of the time without AS. Most people just want a quick fix, and dont understand that with minor structure changes to ones diet and training, they can virtually achieve most typical goals that they could ever want. And when it does come time to really give someone advise on a cycle, it feels really good knowing that there are a lot of educated people around here that are very passionate about safety and every other possible aspect of steroid use, who are more than willing... hell even want to give you that advise.

My advise to any newbie that comes around and may see this post. Listen to the veterans advise around here. They want whats best for you. They want you to be successful. But most of all, we all want to see you be safe and understand what you and your body is doing.


shit, i just got carried away again. Man the wife is pissed! lol IM OUT

1.) Your Wife is always going to be pissed

2.) The worse rep Juice gets my the media - the more "underground" young adults will go to get what they want. It HAS TO STOP.

 

[justinjones1963]

good post!

I remember being the 6 foot scrawny kid in the gym too - your story sent a chill down my spine. bravo!

 

[big49ersfan]

great story that is what juicin is about proper education and dedication waitning till the right time getitng ont he right stuff form the right people and making good solid gains with as minimal helath sides as possible

great story

 

[i am what i am]

i think im tearin up from listening to you guys. Seriously, great post. We need more guys like you on this board to keep up the prestige of elite.

 

[itlnstln]

i think im tearin up from listening to you guys. Seriously, great post. We need more guys like you on this board to keep up the prestige of elite.

It's what you make of it (Elite or anything you do in life) - stick to your guns on your beliefs, and stand up for what you think is right.

This board "contains" people that make up more prestige than I have ever seen.

We just need to remember (myself included) that we are all on the same team.

Live and learn, and what you learn - DON'T be stingy with..........

 

[i am what i am]

I couldn't agree more. With all this pressure from the media and the government being exerted onto the bodybuilding community, the only course of action for us all to take is to stand united. I commend you on your task that you have taken up. I"m ashamed to say that my use must be kept in the dark since I still live under the roof of my parents and the profession that I'm currently undertaking at college doesn't have a friendly outlook on steroids. I often wonder what it would be like to just say " Yeah! I take steroids! Now what the fuck is the big deal!" But i take the chicken way out and keep it to myself and those within the inner circle. I wish that I had met the people that make-up this board when I first had decided to start. I call this board home and have only been here for 3 months now. Itlnstln, you have my utmost respect and gratitude for the path that you have chosen.

 

[ALIN]

Re: Where I Came From

You know it just amazes me, when i was about 15 I stepped into my first gym, (Boys Club - at our local Police Station.
I was SO nervous being there, cause back then I was about 6 ft nothing (still growing for many more years) - and I had never done anything except curl my Dad's old weights in the basement, along with some pushups, and situps - I was skinny, weak, but just ballsy enough to make an ass out of myself in front of my hometown peers.
I remember getting "the looks" from the older guys in the gym - there was our Lieutenant of Police - benching 500+ for 3-5 reps, - I was scared as hell, but my buddy found us an open bench and said to me - "come on, you gotta' start somewhere".
So I crawl under the bar (with 25lb-plates on it - 95lbs) - I remember thinking how wide the bar was. Now everyone in the gym watches as another kid cuts his teeth in with his first bench. I thought I'd puke - and NO I didn't even come close to getting it up. Then I sat up and the unexpected happened - almost all 15-20 guys in the gym who had watched said, - "you'll get it kid - the hard part's over, now go home, eat and rest we WILL see you back here tomorrow"..........
During the next months my bench went up, and I started to actually see "progress" with my body, and the natural test and the weights was almost "intoxicating" - (nothing I could inject today could EVER take the place of that).
Well, one night - 3 years later I was the last one left in the gym on a Summer Night and I asked one of the guys who ran the gym if I could start using steroids. (see this was around 91', but more importantly, Steroids weren't a "bad-word" in our gym. There were PLENTY of guys who used them - none of them FREAKS, just balls-to-the-wall lifters who were big, strong, and fukin hardcore.
The guy I asked stayed for an hour to two hours after the gym closed, and told me the benefits, misconceptions, but more importantly the Dedications that "roids" came with. He told me that if I showed him over the next year that I had what it took in the gym, (had to work out at nights only , cause that's when he did), he would help me with my first cycle.
Long story short - I did it, and at 20yrs old, he gave me the OK - hooked me up with the right guys, and back then (and should be NOW) my first cycle was to be 200mg of test/week for 12 weeks. When it was over - I put on about 10lbs of SOLID muscle - and I thought that was GREAT.......................

That's just one of my stories from when I was starting out, a story that you would never see in a magazine, or newspaper, because it it's not Drama...........it's just life - and something that I loved, and others didn't - and in a perfect world, the two sides can put thier difference aside instead of always JUDGING one-another, and feeling the need to hold one down, so that another can raise himself up...........

In my community - my town, - steroids were NEVER sold by drug dealers-pushers, they were NEVER in our schools, and you couldn't find them unless you put your dues in in the gym.

No one will EVER convince me that the above story contains anything morally wrong.

No one will EVER convince me that Law Enforcement should have EVER stepped in and tried to make what I did a "Crime".

ItlnStln

Awesome story.

 

[Roc86]

Solid read bro. Question ... "6 ft nothing, still had alot to grow" how tall did you actually get ? haha

 

[itlnstln]

Solid read bro. Question ... "6 ft nothing, still had alot to grow" how tall did you actually get ? haha

right now - 6'6" 320LBS.

 

[hesnobradpitt]

posts like these are the reason im still a resercha yet to enter the dark side
It drives home the fact that its a serious choose to make .

 

[flyingjer]

right now - 6'6" 320LBS.

what kind of BF do you have, have you posted any picks, thats a lot to of gained, good job

 

[itlnstln]

what kind of BF do you have, have you posted any picks, thats a lot to of gained, good job

I promise this - when I get down to my desired weight of 295 6-7% bodyfat - I'll post some picks


Right now, I don't want to bring to much attention to myself while doing this research.

But I promise you - I won't stop until this false accusation of the "Steroid Epidemic" is put to rest.

 

[used2juice]

Re: Where I Came From

- I remember thinking how wide the bar was

Man THAT really brings me back to my lifting youth.

 

[Goldprospector]

good read bro's

 

[itlnstln]

good read bro's

Thanks bro

 

[itlnstln]

Re: Where I Came From

Man THAT really brings me back to my lifting youth.

Yeah - when all you thought about was getting stronger/bigger, and never had to defend yourself..............