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where are "passwords" stored on a computer?

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I used someone else's PC and I would like to go in and delete any password I may have left stored behind when I checked my email and other sites that required me to log in. (non-EF)

Where to look?
 
there is a log file or the registry file or something... I dont know where though, sorry.... (I have seen it before though)
 
Go to C: Documents and Settings and in each profiles folder find Cookies folder and kill the cookies
Then go to the 'local settings' folder in those same profiles and wipe out the history and temporary internet files
also use Tools - internet options - clear history in explorer
 
or tools, options and find stored cookies, delete all

I use Netscape so it is a little dif than Explorer, but in explorer it is under internet options you can find and delete cookies.

There should have been a box to check if you wanted to store the password on the computer, if you did not check box - it should nopt have stored psswd.
 
or tools, options and find stored cookies, delete all doesn't always work.

Shadow's third point is true though.

In this amount of time there is nothing you can do about index.dat. But no worries, I don't believe the password is stored there.
 
Also use shift+delete when deleting so it doesn't go to the recycle bin.
That way if the guy has stuff in the bin it will still be there because you won't have to empty the bin to 'clean' the computer.
 
I am on XP. I don't want to erase all the cookies or files, (for good reasons), but I want to clear any traces of myself on here.
 
The Nature Boy said:
it's called "dontlookhere.txt"

That must be on XP.

In 2000 mine is called "whistle whistle, just minding my own business.txt"
 
AAP said:
I am on XP. I don't want to erase all the cookies or files, (for good reasons), but I want to clear any traces of myself on here.

This will make a good story. Whose office did you sneak into and what information did you find?
 
ohashi said:


This will make a good story. Whose office did you sneak into and what information did you find?

Pipe down ok.


Now, let's just assume for sake of you guys having a clearer picture. The scenario(s) are :

#1 I have someone's computer.

#2 I let someone use MY computer and they logged into certain sites using a password.


Are traces of that password stored on the computer?
 
What a liar.

Anyway, you can go into the Temprorary Internet Files folder in the Windwos subdirectory and delete the appropriate cookies, but unless you delete ALL cookies, you are likely to miss something.
 
ohashi said:
Anyway, you can go into the Temprorary Internet Files folder in the Windwos subdirectory and delete the appropriate cookies, but unless you delete ALL cookies, you are likely to miss something.

werd.
 
at least tell us what geigh porn sites you visited... ohasi's want to know....
 
Suppose I wanted to use the cookies to find a password they used to log in.

Come on, important here.

I can't go to our IT peeps here until I am 100% positive of this.
 
just look for a cookie witht he name of the site in it....
 
Becoming said:
just look for a cookie witht he name of the site in it....

I found that.... but it is all numbers and shit. Nothing that resembles a word or phrase.


Hey, isn't there a spy program you can install on the PC and it captures every keystroke that someone types.
 
I was trying to find one for you, but a) i'm lazy, and b) i'm lazy.

As for being terrible partners in crime, you're a terrible crook. Next time you want to commit something bad, post the idea here first so that someone competent at it can give you tips.
 
..............

There are hundreds of programs you can install that will capture keystroke... just go out on the internet and do a search for "keystroke loggers"

Passwords are stored in different locations depending on the OS. It really depends on the OS.

I will try to put it as simply as possible. On any OS in the world. If you have access to the terminal... you can retreive ANY password on the box.

There are zillions of programs out there to decrypt password files from all MS OS's, Unix OS's

the trick is being able to get to the terminal and getting at the hard drive.

If you can actually get to the machine and get the hard drive for even an hour... whoa boy... you can have whatever you want.
 
AAP and IT.

Kinda like oil and water.

You don't really have anything to worry about.

However, sites like this can store your log in information in cookie form.

You merely need to log out from the board and it will clear the cookie for you.

For e-mail sites and such, unless you have selected to have it "Remember" you, it shouldn't.

You can delete individual cookies without clearing the whole cookie folder.
 
Okay smart guy milo- he has the hard drive, now lets get the password- and aapo, exactly what is this a password to? the farmsex site I hope......

I looked in mine and all my cookies were the same... no passwords..
 
AAP- I just scanned my entire drive for anything that contained either my handle or my password IN THE FILE EVEN and came up with nothing... keystroke thing I think would be easiest.......
 
Ok, I have the computer and the hard drive.

If you guys remember back in Nov, I had two associates in Chicago that deliberately made me lose a 60K deal. (they were fired later).

Ok, one thing that has bothered me was that when I was going over the entire process and reviewing all the mistakes, there were times that they were cutting me off at corners before I even got there. Unless they were pyschic, there was no way of knowing where and what avenue or direction I was taking. For a while, I have long suspected that my assistant was the one feeding them information about my actions. No one else knew, but he knew my travel schedule and who I was talking with.

I have his laptop here. I know for a fact he still remains in touch with these two ex-employees. If I can find his password to various sites, I can double check my suspicions and get his ass canned a lot faster.
 
download.com doesn't have keystroke loggers. when I did a search, they just had 4 programs that was designed to remove keystroke loggers and spyware.
 
AAP, Here:

Open Internet Exlorer > Tools > Internet Options > Content (tab) > Then under Personal Information select "Autocomplete". Select the "Clear Passwords".


It's that simple.
 
alien amp pharm said:
AAP, Here:

Open Internet Exlorer > Tools > Internet Options > Content (tab) > Then under Personal Information select "Autocomplete". Select the "Clear Passwords".


It's that simple.

Actually, I don't want to clear passwords. I want to DISCOVER them.
 
Ok, I'm confused after reading further on the thread...

Are you trying to delete your passwords off of another computer like you originally stated, or are you trying to steal someone's password?
 
alien amp pharm said:
Ok, I'm confused after reading further on the thread...

Are you trying to delete your passwords off of another computer like you originally stated, or are you trying to steal someone's password?

BOTH! haha, bro, this is a fun thread.....
 
AAP said:


Actually, I don't want to clear passwords. I want to DISCOVER them.

Ah, I see. That is illegal:)

Do you see ****** where the passwords are? If you see those you can unmask them. Otherwise I don't know.
 
I am only going to "borrow" it.

I have checked to make sure I have no passwords on it.

But I do have the list of sites he visited.

If I find what I think I am going to find, I am going to send his ass to the unemployment line on Friday.
 
alright alien... talk! (I know you got good info brolio)
 
Becoming said:
alright alien... talk! (I know you got good info brolio)

Whatcha wanna talk about?





Sorry AAP. The **** was my only shot at it.
 
I know you're a cheap bastard, but google the word "keylogger"

You'll probably have to buy it, but hey you're rich anyway, right?
 
User accounts PW's are in a file called SAM, but you don't want to mess with that AT ALL. You want to remove cookies.
 
Code said:
Most systems store them in /etc/passwd

the only etc file I found was under the Drivers directory. No passwd file in there.
 
I should have clarified... use google to serach... and

if the OS is 9X based all the local passwords are stored in a .pwl file and can be viewed using pwlview1.exe which can be downloaded.. (there are literally hundreds of these)

and NTX boxes uyou have to be able to get to the SAM... a little difficult and decrypting it with a third party app will take some time.

You will have to do a little research to do this... but in any case you have to have access to the hard drive to get at these files... which you do... so the HARDEST part is already accomplished.

happy hacking.
 
There is one other little program that is well known (in IT circles) that can aid in spying on a system.

Karma to the first bro who can name it.

(Code excluded)
 
LOL

okay aap

I ran back to the lab and tested the 9X demo version... it works well. fast too

dont have time to test the 2K/XP one but Im sure it will do what you need.

I did notice the 2k/XP demo version will recover short passwords... so if these guys were boneheads and used passwords like "cat" you can get at them with the demo version.
 
1. He's on XP.
2. He's computer-illiterate.
3. Passwords in cookies are not encrypted using hashes. Now, if he had to steal an admin login pass, it'd be different.
 
Ok, I did find a free keystroker capture program

I tested it on my machine and it worked. It captured every keystroke I did. (another bonus).

So I put it on his machine and it is back at his desk. I am going to give it until he leaves at lunchtime tomorrow and print the file off. Then I can sit at my desk and reveiw it at leisure. I will try out each of the passwords on the email accounts he uses.

If I find what I am suspecting, Friday is going to be a horrible for him.
 
I am going to lock this, then I will spread karma tomorrow to everyone on here.
 
ohashi said:
Don't forget to post the rusults, good or not. This is interesting.

Yes!- This thread is the bomb... HAHAHAHA
 
I can't help but notice that this thread is not locked yet, despite AAP's promises. I thought I was a lazy admin on my board, but it looks like AAP's even lazier than me on this one.
 
ohashi said:
I can't help but notice that this thread is not locked yet, despite AAP's promises. I thought I was a lazy admin on my board, but it looks like AAP's even lazier than me on this one.

lol
True, but technically he didn't say WHEN he is locking it.





(don't worry, he'll forget the karma too)
 
Ya'll bitches, I tried to lock it. But BRR said no. He said my thread didn't have over 100 replies to yet. Seems to be the minimum standard I have when I start a thread.

I am using Perfect Key LoggerLite.

I am actually going to go to the office tomorrow (for once) just to check this thing.
 
I can`t believe I did`nt click on this thread all day. Best thread ever!
 
XBiker said:
There is one other little program that is well known (in IT circles) that can aid in spying on a system.

Karma to the first bro who can name it.

(Code excluded)

There are LOTS of programs for spying. Instead on keystroke logging, I'd sniff the packets. Then you know everything that's going on. A lot of data, though.
 
Well today was certainly VERY interesting to say the least. Two things that I have found out today :

#1 He did do just what I had been suspecting.
#2 His ass is getting canned ASAP.

The only thing I have to work out is how to get the evidence to my boss (The President) without it appearing I did something immoral to obtain it. (I wouldn't do anything immoral right? shut up )

So, I have printed off copies of the evidence and I am going to mail them to a non-business associate in Ohio (the area this concerns), he is just going to put them in a new envelope and remail them to my boss here. Anonymously.

this way, I will be in FLL when the package is mailed and received (my alibi) and no one will suspect that I was the one who instigated the whole thing.

*replacing tiara with halo*
 
AAP said:
Well today was certainly VERY interesting to say the least. Two things that I have found out today :

#1 He did do just what I had been suspecting.
#2 His ass is getting canned ASAP.

The only thing I have to work out is how to get the evidence to my boss (The President) without it appearing I did something immoral to obtain it. (I wouldn't do anything immoral right? shut up )

So, I have printed off copies of the evidence and I am going to mail them to a non-business associate in Ohio (the area this concerns), he is just going to put them in a new envelope and remail them to my boss here. Anonymously.

this way, I will be in FLL when the package is mailed and received (my alibi) and no one will suspect that I was the one who instigated the whole thing.

*replacing tiara with halo*


dont be surprised when your boss
pretends that he never received
the package...

just a hunch...
 
AAP you gotta Overnight those Envelopes and have your buddy mail them right away and AS SOON as YOU copy the evidence. This way there`s no way you could have done it (unless you did what I said) lol

But what you said will work too I guess. I don`t know how much you have to cover your tracks.
 
PS keep us updated. I stopped watching Days of Our Lives for this...
 
Dude this is the bomb... weird... I am thinking AAP is cooler everyday.... I will probably change my mind later though...
 
jnuts said:


There are LOTS of programs for spying. Instead on keystroke logging, I'd sniff the packets. Then you know everything that's going on. A lot of data, though.

You want to sniff AAP's packets?

I thought you were married, bro...
 
The president will obviously be suspicious as to how the "evidence" was obtained. Surely he will confront the snitch, and possibly show the snitch what he received. Will the snitch be able to make out that the evidence was directly from his computer? If so, they will know someone was lurking.

Be careful.
 
Actually, my boss was firmly against this guy working for me from the very start. He had a lateral transfer when I started with the company from his ex-boss who was promoted. We both got rid of him then by assigning him to another upstart.

When I was made VP of Business Development, I absorbed everyone in the department under my supervision. Actually, I have the power to fire him myself, however, I can't do that without revealing how I came to obtain the evidence.

He has been written up in the past countless time for failing to maintain adequate work performance, leaving early, falsfying his time sheet, attitude problems, etc.... this will be the final straw.
 
Can`t wait for the details. Please give time and channel. Now THIS is reality TV. or... internet.
 
JOKER47 said:


Fuck dude, that right there is grounds for immediate termination at my company. :confused:


It would be here to. However, he claimed it was an "accident". coming in at 1pm was somehow accidentally changed to 7am because of a stray mark (conveniently) on the sheet made it look like the 1 was really a 7.

Same thing for coming in at 3 and having it "accidentally" marked as 8.

And he has "forgotten to clock out" when taking 3 hour lunches, although when someone signs his time card, he takes it to another dept supervisor and only reports 1 hour.
 
AAP said:



It would be here to. However, he claimed it was an "accident". coming in at 1pm was somehow accidentally changed to 7am because of a stray mark (conveniently) on the sheet made it look like the 1 was really a 7.

Same thing for coming in at 3 and having it "accidentally" marked as 8.

And he has "forgotten to clock out" when taking 3 hour lunches, although when someone signs his time card, he takes it to another dept supervisor and only reports 1 hour.

Funny sod. I have fired better people for much less. Set the standard or you will be forced to accept substandard.

Did you can his ass yet?
 
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ChefWide said:


Funny sod. I have fired better people for much less. Set the standard or you will be forced to accept substandard.

Did you can his ass yet?

Thing is, (I hate to say this because it is going to sound bad), he is Jewish. I don't mean that in a nasty kind of way (apologies to hardrock and other Jewish EF members), however, he is the only Jewish employee we have.

So, the company has taken pains to help him along the way instead of showing him the door because we do not want to be investigated for discrimination.

Even with his below standard work, instead of letting him go like we have done others, we gave him "retraining" so he could perform better, but he hasn't.

He will be fired in the next week. I gurantee that.
 
Today is going to be very fun. (for me). It won't be until next week before the mail gets here and the fireworks start.

But until then, I am going to make him miserable.

740am now. I go in at 9am, boy is he in for a surprise.
 
Hope things work out for you when the Prez gets the anonymous emails..Get things rolling and call IT to do an extraction of the data on your scheduler's laptop to confirm the collusion he was in with the 2 fired business partners. Wonder what he will say to the President when confronted with copies of the emails/websites.
 
Well, this has been interesting thus far.

He shows up at 910am, even though his scheduled hours begin at 8AM. He was really surprised to see me. Especially since I am sitting on the edge of his desk waiting. He asked me "what you are doing in on a Friday, you never come in on a Friday?"

I asked him "what time you got there?"

He was like "908AM".

I say "what time you suppose to be here?"

He goes "uh..... 800AM?"

I say "Yes. So you are late right?"

He goes "yeah, a little" (WTF? an hour is a little?)

I tell him "go get a tardy slip".

He goes "A tardy slip? When did we have to start getting tardy slips? This isn't junior high".

I told him "go down to HR, tell them you are late, have them deduct it from your vacation pay and bring me back the paper."
(For the record there is no such thing as a tardy slip, I just wanted to get his ass moving to let everyone know he was late.)

Amazingly, he just stood there looking at me blankly. He (can you believe it?) says "Why do I have to do that? You come in at anytime you want to and never have to do it. No one says anything to you about being late."

I stood up and looked down at him and asked him "Have you seen the name plate on my office door? The one with MY name on it? Ever noticed that besides my name is the word EXECUTIVE? If you had noticed that, you would be aware that the title alone excludes me from 99% of the rules you have to follow. Now shift directions and get me that tardy slip."

The rest of the secretarys were sitting around the cubicle farm just staring at him. (they all hate him because they have to cover for his sorry ass when he doesn't do his job)

So... he flounced off and got the slip.

Then half an hour ago (1100), he comes in and informs me that he has to leave early to take his son (3 years old) to the doctor.

(now, his wife does NOT work. 27 years old and has NEVER had a job in her life. A true Jewish Princess. She doesn't work and he has to run home constantly and take care of things around the house, even though she is home all day. And she has her own car)

I ask him "hows your wife?"

He goes "good"

I ask "is she at home?"

He says "yeah"

I say "give her a call and tell her to take her child to the doctor, she isn't working and you have to be here because Jeannie is on vacation and you have to do that filing of hers that you haven't done all week. And it ALL has to be done today."

You would think I just suggested he wipe my ass after I took a shit. He stammers "I can't do that. I have to go home and take my son. My wife is going to lunch with her mother and can't take him."

So I look at him and tell him "Well why don't you call your wife and inform her that she and her mother can make it a family affair and take her child to the doctor before lunch or after lunch or skip lunch all together unless her child's health is less important to going to lunch. Or maybe she should call the doctor and reschedule his visit on a day that doesn't conflict with her lunch schedule. But YOU have things to do. Starting with that filing, and you best get to it, otherwise you are going to be here past 6PM."

He had a look on his face like some threw cold water on him. Not because of what I said, but mainly because of the thought of having to call his wife and tell her that he couldn't do what SHE wanted today.
 
How engorged were you at this point? Flint steel hard or diamond hard? :lmao:
 
WODIN said:
So are you going to fire this guy?

It will be a circus firing. Out of there so fast, you would think it was from a cannon.

So in short, I am like, soooo going to fire this guy.
 
If you are being honest and you don't have a personal vendetta against this guy (no, not AAP, he's not the vindictive type...) then it sounds like he deserves to be shot out of a cannon and right in to a port-a-potty draining pit.
 
XBiker said:
If you are being honest and you don't have a personal vendetta against this guy (no, not AAP, he's not the vindictive type...) then it sounds like he deserves to be shot out of a cannon and right in to a port-a-potty draining pit.

Would costing me a $60K commission check be due grounds for a vendetta?
 
I'm pretty sure now that this dillweed is fuming and emailing the 2 guys that were fired what a (#($*_! executive you are and how you should be canned and not them two.

Dillweed sure is taking advantage of the non micro mgt at the office up till now:D I'm sure the other secretaries are glad you put him in his place and even happier when he gets canned.

He won't have to worry leaving early for work to take his kid to the doctor, he'll have all the time he wants with him until the unemployment check runs out!:rolleyes:

Dillweed working 5 hrs, but putting in 8 hrs worked....illegal time keeping practice is enough to get him canned.
 
AAP said:


Would costing me a $60K commission check be due grounds for a vendetta?

I read that part earlier, just emphasizing the seriousness of getting someone canned.

For 60K, I would suggest one of the two following penalties.

1. Drawn and quartered.

2. Total evisceration.
 
I know you`re having fun AAP and I`m CERTAINLY on your side bro, But for this week before you fire him he can conjure up something like harrassment or whatever ESPECIALLY the way you`re turning up the heat on him. I may be totally off base here, Just looking out for you.
 
he cant really say its harassment when he is violating corporate policy and getting reprimanded for it. it must be great to see him squirm and be miserable. I would continue to make his job suck for a while until I felt better about the 60K(which would never happen) so once I got bored Id can his ass. Better make the next few days worthwhile b4 your boss gets the anonymous envelope.
 
IJ26 said:
he cant really say its harassment when he is violating corporate policy and getting reprimanded for it. it must be great to see him squirm and be miserable. I would continue to make his job suck for a while until I felt better about the 60K(which would never happen) so once I got bored Id can his ass. Better make the next few days worthwhile b4 your boss gets the anonymous envelope.

Yes I agree what AAP did was fine but This guy is already a liar and a cheat. Do you think he`ll stop there? What about when he gets fired? He may come up with some untruths that he gets from this next "Hell week" with AAP.

This mornings example will allow other cooworkers to see what`s going on in case there`s need for witnesses as well. I could just see it now... "Yes as a matter of fact AAP HAS been harsher than normal to little stinky here" Not that he does`nt deserve it,but he can use it as evidence in his lie or whatever he comes up with.

I say Getting him fired is well worth waiting a week with no drastic drama. Totally just My opinion, I certainly am not there and can`t test the waters.
 
Actually (thanks a biggie for your concern gonelifting - really! no joke), everything I have done was by the book. When it happened in front of other co-workers, it was because he continued the conversation and instigated each question.

Had he said "let's talk in private about this", I would have. Or worse, if I didn't, he would have a legitimate complaint. Also, I never insulted him. My comments about his wife and mother, while directly pointed, can be labeled as suggestions if he were to ever complain. I "suggested" he get his wife to take the baby. I "suggested" he make it a family affair. I "suggested" he reschedule the appointment if the lunch date was more important. So, he really has no legitimate complaint to stand upon.

(See the wonders of 4 years in Motorola's HR dept?)

Even by making him do all the filing, that is not a legitimate cause. Because when one co-worker goes on vacation, the others pick up the slack. The other four did the filing Mon-Thurs (a different co-worker each day), today was his day.

You know, in the past when it was suggested that he be laid off, I always said no. Because he has no college education, he has a new born baby, his wife is too "precious" to work, and the economy was really bad. I was the one that voted against letting him go. And this is what I get.
 
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