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jmead

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i ran a pretty heavy cycle.. im 3 weeks or so into pct.. and.. well ive only lost 3lbs or so.. and i feel great.. no mood changes.. no depression.. i still HAVE to go to the gym or ill kill myself.. still eating well(ghrp helps alot with hunger)

im just wondering why im not crashing hardcore like i expected.. could my test levels already be jumping back up? im confused? i guess blood test is the only way to tell.. is it too early to get bloodwork done as far as not letting a doc know im juicin my brains out..

cycle was

1-4 dbol 50mg ED
1-20test e about 600mg EW
1-18 eq 700mg ew
wk 8-15 npp 600mg EW
aifm/aromasin throughout..
liquid cabaser(might have been bunk) throughout

pct.. did hcg for 14 days from last test injection
now a week into clomid..

started 215 around 10-11%
ended 250ish around 9-10%
 
Personally 3 weeks is way to early to tell. Give it a a month or two. Maybe you're just doing everything right like you should and will retain everything but a few lbs :). In the ideal world...... Good luck....
 
Not everybody crashes. The whole point of pct is so you don't experience the crash. Stick w/ pct and keep the diet and training on point. That's a hell of a cycle though. Talk about getting as much as you can out of it.
 
ya.. this my was first laid out cycle.. i might have gone overboard.. but hell i controlled all my sides.. didnt hurt myself.. so fuck it.. you only live once..

next one is gonna be real fun.. encorporating igf into it..

im thinking..

800mg test
600mg deca (10 weeks)
60mg dbol 4wks
igf 50mcg pwo 4 on 4 off
ghrp-6 throughout 500mcg ED
aromasin
then into
100mg prop ED
75mg tren ace ED
100mg winny ED

like to end up around 265..

im 6'5'' so i do have to admit i started way before my genetic potential but most people dont know how hard it is to bulk being so lanky with a crazy metabolism

anyway back on subject.. im hoping the pct goes well.. but i figured my test levels would be in the shitter right now and id be feeling pretty crappy.. but it hasnt hit me ..

im going to get blood work done 2 months after i get off the clomid.. if all is well i might just get back on.. who knows
 
UFC22 said:
Personally 3 weeks is way to early to tell. Give it a a month or two. Maybe you're just doing everything right like you should and will retain everything but a few lbs :). In the ideal world...... Good luck....
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4-5 weeks he will bottom out but very well may have a smoth transition, lets not jinx him!
 
Hey man dont even mention crashing no more, Dont Jinx it just ride it out and hope you never crash
 
jmead said:
ya.. this my was first laid out cycle.. i might have gone overboard.. but hell i controlled all my sides.. didnt hurt myself.. so fuck it.. you only live once..

next one is gonna be real fun.. encorporating igf into it..

im thinking..

800mg test
600mg deca (10 weeks)
60mg dbol 4wks
igf 50mcg pwo 4 on 4 off
ghrp-6 throughout 500mcg ED
aromasin
then into
100mg prop ED
75mg tren ace ED
100mg winny ED

like to end up around 265..

im 6'5'' so i do have to admit i started way before my genetic potential but most people dont know how hard it is to bulk being so lanky with a crazy metabolism

anyway back on subject.. im hoping the pct goes well.. but i figured my test levels would be in the shitter right now and id be feeling pretty crappy.. but it hasnt hit me ..

im going to get blood work done 2 months after i get off the clomid.. if all is well i might just get back on.. who knows
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hey bro not to sound like a douche, but what is ghrp?
 
It depends on your PCT, your body chemistry, your age and the amount/type of gear you took. Usually during the first month off I look and feel great. This PCT I used IGF-1, HGH, Dostinex, aromasin, Clomid and I did not loose much after about 2 1/2 months. Then at that the 2.5 month point I noticed muscle lose, its funny however I did not lose much strength. At some point off the juice we will all start to lose muscle mass.

peace
 
jmead said:
i ran a pretty heavy cycle.. im 3 weeks or so into pct.. and.. well ive only lost 3lbs or so.. and i feel great.. no mood changes.. no depression.. i still HAVE to go to the gym or ill kill myself.. still eating well(ghrp helps alot with hunger)

im just wondering why im not crashing hardcore like i expected.. could my test levels already be jumping back up? im confused? i guess blood test is the only way to tell.. is it too early to get bloodwork done as far as not letting a doc know im juicin my brains out..

cycle was

1-4 dbol 50mg ED
1-20test e about 600mg EW
1-18 eq 700mg ew
wk 8-15 npp 600mg EW
aifm/aromasin throughout..
liquid cabaser(might have been bunk) throughout

pct.. did hcg for 14 days from last test injection
now a week into clomid..

started 215 around 10-11%
ended 250ish around 9-10%
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Dude, you look huge....and ripped....
 
i only crashed one time man. i ran deca 600mg ew with winny as a dumb fuck when i didn't know about ef, i didn't crash with no pct. do not try it though. i ran deca again with test and did pct, but crashed so hard i couldn't nut for 3 months no joke, now i can't explain this. i think enth shuts me down like a mofo. i ran
eq 800mg 1-17
proviron 50mg ed as needed
npp 75mg eod 14-19 i think maybe sooner
suspsension 14-19
i ran pct and never crashed man. thats why i love proviron so much. when i come off a cycle with proviron in it i do not crash. aside from that eq imo does not shut down most people. beachstud, myself, krish all get intense libido from eq with a bit of pro-v in there. i got it off just 800mg of eq, at one point i was on eq only no proviron at all. the libido was a beast. i'll never touch deca or long test again but i don't think you will crash jmead. keep it up bro, thats a lot of mass to put on goddamn, bet people are questioning you
 
Here's hoping you *don't* crash bro...

But personally, I usually go down at about my 3rd or 4th week into PCT... my last PCT incorporated IGF for the first time and my crash wasn't so bad.
 
jmead said:
i ran a pretty heavy cycle.. im 3 weeks or so into pct.. and.. well ive only lost 3lbs or so.. and i feel great.. no mood changes.. no depression.. i still HAVE to go to the gym or ill kill myself.. still eating well(ghrp helps alot with hunger)

im just wondering why im not crashing hardcore like i expected.. could my test levels already be jumping back up? im confused? i guess blood test is the only way to tell.. is it too early to get bloodwork done as far as not letting a doc know im juicin my brains out..

cycle was

1-4 dbol 50mg ED
1-20test e about 600mg EW
1-18 eq 700mg ew
wk 8-15 npp 600mg EW
aifm/aromasin throughout..
liquid cabaser(might have been bunk) throughout

pct.. did hcg for 14 days from last test injection
now a week into clomid..

started 215 around 10-11%
ended 250ish around 9-10%
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Dood we musta stopped our cycles exactly the same time i have done 14 days of HCG myself 1000iu eod and now i am a week into clomid 6 days exactly i still feel great also i lost 13lbs of BF in the last month too got real lean i wanna start my next cycle now :) i didnt get the size i wanted to achieve but i did lose the BF so my next cycle i should see great results i hope

This cycle was 14 weeks of test E and 10 weeks of deca

Next 1 will be

20 weeks test E 500mg

400mg EQ for 16 weeks

1-4 week 30mg dbol

1-4 test prop 100mg eod

and maybe add deca for joints
 
dude its mental. thats what the crash is ive never had it and I NEVER WILL im on TEST forever not by doctors orders by my orders JUST AS GOOD. So shit I dont know you just dont let it hit you mentally.
 
ghrp is growth horomone releasing peptide, its mostly for us younger people who dont want to hop on exo growth and shut down our natty gh.. its like a GH booster basically.. i get insane hunger and feel fuller while on it.. im about 3 weeks into it

i dont see it talked about at all on this board, but 4-5 others theres all kinds of raving fans..

gonna start igf soon until next cycle, 4 wk on 4 wk off, or EOD havent decided yet
 
We must have got off about the same time too bro. I am 4 weeks into PCT, HCG 1000 iu MWF for 3 weeks, and Clomid 50 mg ed for 4. I did start the clomid and the HCG at the same time about a week after last shot per Jenetic's PCT sticky protocal. So far, so good with absolutely zero weight or strength loss. (Actaully had some strength gain on Bench,, go figure????)

Lets keep in touch on this!

last cycle
500 mg Test E 1-13
400 mg EQ 1-13
40mg Dbol 1-4
AIFM throughout

6'1, 230 lb 15% bf
 
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good luck with everyones crash.. haha.. all you guys post up some pics.. like to see where all you tall guys stand
 
the wings will be posted again when the tren cycle is over. when my chest looks like yours J i'll be posting front. lol
 
well thanks for the compliment, im lackin in a few areas that im really gonna concentrate on.. legs for one its hard to fill out legs with 38inch inseams.. calfs big time same problem.. lower back could use some work.. i have slight sculiosis so my lower back has a weird look to it.. probably from the slight twist in my spine

heres a quad and back shot.. i still cant figure out how to flex my back while taking my own picture.. haha


http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s306/jmead123/leg.jpg

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s306/jmead123/back.jpg
 
jmead said:
no one wanna post some pics? :/
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i got some on my comp at home....



jmead how old are you? ive been looking for info on GHRP for a while now, and the only person who chimed in was anthony roberts, but the thread ddint go far....

what other forums can u send me to find out about it.

im 20 and would love to increase my GH
 
they recognize me, and recognize im juicing.. haha. its not like i can hide it

"protein shakes and creatine" can only account for maybe 10-15 lbs max.. OOOOH WELL
 
im only a week and a half into my clomid.. and ive woke up with morning wood the past 2 days.. im guessing this is a good sign.. but i figured it would take a little longer
 
Shit .. Im starting PCT with HCG injects then clomid in 2 weeks .. NOT looking forward to it.. I hate PCT .. But no pain no gain
 
5 weeks off today bro, no weight loss, no strength loss so far. New avatar is from today. But damn, the intensity at gym has sure slowed and libido is back to reality too. I feel "smaller" mentally but scale and freinds say no.
 
Hey Bro,

Well honestly after such a long cycle w/ long acting anabolics, u still have hormones active in your system. If you were doing eq to the end of your cycle, it will still be active in your system for an additional week at least. A single shot of eq in the glutes will be active for around 6 weeks. Granted it is only 2-3 mgs active in your system daily for the last week or 2 but it is still hormones in your system. The clomid definately helps recovery but next time the NCG will be better utilized during your cycle than at the end. Wait another week and if you don't start losing weight, you probably wont lose much more.

Hope this helps,
-dino

QUOTE=jmead]ya.. this my was first laid out cycle.. i might have gone overboard.. but hell i controlled all my sides.. didnt hurt myself.. so fuck it.. you only live once..

next one is gonna be real fun.. encorporating igf into it..

im thinking..

800mg test
600mg deca (10 weeks)
60mg dbol 4wks
igf 50mcg pwo 4 on 4 off
ghrp-6 throughout 500mcg ED
aromasin
then into
100mg prop ED
75mg tren ace ED
100mg winny ED

like to end up around 265..

im 6'5'' so i do have to admit i started way before my genetic potential but most people dont know how hard it is to bulk being so lanky with a crazy metabolism

anyway back on subject.. im hoping the pct goes well.. but i figured my test levels would be in the shitter right now and id be feeling pretty crappy.. but it hasnt hit me ..

im going to get blood work done 2 months after i get off the clomid.. if all is well i might just get back on.. who knows[/QUOTE]
 
i stopped the eq then ran the test 2 weeks after.. then hcg for 2 weeks, then started clomid, so when i started clomid it was 4 weeks after my last eq shot i stopped the npp way before that..
 
the test is just starting to leave my system? bro that wouldnt make much sense if i was pcting right now then would it..

the enanthate ester clears in around 14-21 days
 
jmead said:
ghrp is growth horomone releasing peptide, its mostly for us younger people who dont want to hop on exo growth and shut down our natty gh.. its like a GH booster basically.. i get insane hunger and feel fuller while on it.. im about 3 weeks into it

i dont see it talked about at all on this board, but 4-5 others theres all kinds of raving fans..

gonna start igf soon until next cycle, 4 wk on 4 wk off, or EOD havent decided yet[/QUOTE

please make sure to post up your thoughts on the GHRP and IGF.....I am following the same route and would love to hear what ya think
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the ghrp has been goin good so far.. makes me feel alot FULLER.. and im actually gettin good pumps at the gym i dont know if thats from the ghrp or what..

i think its helped me maintain my weight.. and i have actually seen some fat loss.. which also might have been water..

i have my igf coming now.. so ill keep ya updated when i actually start with that..

gonna be doing 40mcg 5-10 minutes PWO on workout days only 4 weeks on 4 weeks off
 
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