When to take clomid?

[RippedRule]

I just started a 500 mg/week Test E cycle that I plan on running for approx 8 weeks. I am shooting 250mg twice/week. When exactly should I take clomid. I know Test E has a longer halflife and I want to be precise about this because my last cycle I think I started too soon and I had a hard time recovering. I am running Nolva @ 20mg/day and plan on doing so through pct.

Also, clomid/nolva was the extent of my pct but I am curious to know if there is anything natural that will aid in recovery. I remember a post awhile back but I can't seem to find it.

 

[RippedRule]

I just started a 500 mg/week Test E cycle that I plan on running for approx 8 weeks. I am shooting 250mg twice/week. When exactly should I take clomid. I know Test E has a longer halflife and I want to be precise about this because my last cycle I think I started too soon and I had a hard time recovering. I am running Nolva @ 20mg/day and plan on doing so through pct.

Also, clomid/nolva was the extent of my pct but I am curious to know if there is anything natural that will aid in recovery. I remember a post awhile back but I can't seem to find it.

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[GymIntensity]

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redkat or alpha male by biotest will help keep your natty test pumpin, on cycle and PCT. tribulus terrestris will help also but the alpha male already has it in there .

 

[Ulter]

I think you should reconsider using the nolva and suggest you get AIFM for the cycle and the PCT. Use the clomid for two weeks post cycle. You should do very well with that.

 

[njmuscleguy]

I think you should reconsider using the nolva and suggest you get AIFM for the cycle and the PCT. Use the clomid for two weeks post cycle. You should do very well with that.

what? no nolva for PCT? why not? I would use AIFM along with Nolva for PCT (oh, and HCG too) .... what's your reasoning?

 

[Ulter]

You CAN use both if you're not coming off of nandrolone. But I think it's overkill. Nolva is selective so AIFM is a better choice to raise natural test levels.

 

[deadliftinghorse]

what do you mean you cant take both if coming off nanodrone?

 

[Ulter]

You shouldn't use nolva if you're using nandrolone. When you come off the elimination period is much longer than most people want to wait to start PCT. So you should use something else for PCT.

 

[ryan04]

Start clomid 2 wks after your last test injection. Take 100 mgs a day for 1st 7-10 days, then 50 mgs a day for another 2-3 wks. Some bros like to jumpstart it with 300 mgs the 1st day...that'll work too. Nolva and clomid work in different ways, I used them both successfully for my last PCT. I took the clomid like I said, then ran 40 mgs of nolva a day for 2 or 3 wks after I finished off the clomid. Good luck bro.

 

[steelmass]

You shouldn't use nolva if you're using nandrolone. When you come off the elimination period is much longer than most people want to wait to start PCT. So you should use something else for PCT.

Why would AIFM even help at all if you still had 500mg Nandrolone-Decanoate in your system? Sounds like you're saying you can start PCT when you really shouldn't - just use AIFM!

 

[steelmass]

For nandrolones you should use Cabergolin throughout as well as HCG and an AI. Then for PCT - AI and/or SERM.

 

[Ulter]

Why would AIFM even help at all if you still had 500mg Nandrolone-Decanoate in your system? Sounds like you're saying you can start PCT when you really shouldn't - just use AIFM!

I know there is a question in there somewhere, I'm just not sure what it is.

AIFM should be used as an AI. You should use an AI while on cycle.
I don't think I gave a time to start PCT coming off of Nandrolone.

 

[njmuscleguy]

so that means no nolva when coming off deca.... no nolva for deca-related gyno...

what about coming off tren? it's a derivative of nandrolone but its activity is different.... so is Nolva ok for tren? if using AIFM during cycle and for PCT, are you saying AIFM is enough?

 

[njmuscleguy]

Ulter?

 

[Mr.X]

I just started a 500 mg/week Test E cycle that I plan on running for approx 8 weeks. I am shooting 250mg twice/week. When exactly should I take clomid. I know Test E has a longer halflife and I want to be precise about this because my last cycle I think I started too soon and I had a hard time recovering. I am running Nolva @ 20mg/day and plan on doing so through pct.

Also, clomid/nolva was the extent of my pct but I am curious to know if there is anything natural that will aid in recovery. I remember a post awhile back but I can't seem to find it.

Stick to Clomid and nolvadex for PCT.

Day 1-3: 300mgs clomid ED + 40mgs nolvadex ED
Day 4-7: 200mgs Clomid ED + 40mgs nolvadex ED
Day 8-14: 100mgs Clomid ED + 20mgs nolvadex ED
Day 15-21: 50mgs clomid ED + 20mgs nolvadex ED
Day 22-30: 25mgs clomid ED + 10mgs nolvadex ED

 

[Mr.X]

so that means no nolva when coming off deca.... no nolva for deca-related gyno...

what about coming off tren? it's a derivative of nandrolone but its activity is different.... so is Nolva ok for tren? if using AIFM during cycle and for PCT, are you saying AIFM is enough?

If you want something for deca related gyno, go with Dostinex or run letrozole.

For your PCT, you need a SERM like nolvadex, or run the clomid + nolva combo. If you had deca in the cycle, I suggest you add HCG.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

so that means no nolva when coming off deca.... no nolva for deca-related gyno...

what about coming off tren? it's a derivative of nandrolone but its activity is different.... so is Nolva ok for tren? if using AIFM during cycle and for PCT, are you saying AIFM is enough?

nolva is not ok for tren, it is ok AFTER tren (when its clear your system- which will depend on ester)

AIFM is enough (as any AI) during cycle, it will reduce PR expression (nolva increases PR expression- which is why its not well suited when PR issues arise- great for ER issues).

during the PCT add clomid or nolva (after tren has cleared system), you can run HCG and AIFM from the beginning of PCT (if wanting to be sure the tren/nandro has cleared your system)

 

[njmuscleguy]

Macro / Mr.X - MANY THANKS!

 

[RippedRule]

Mr. X -

Should I stop running the letro [1.25mg ed] after my last shot or keep running it through the 2 weeks until I start clomid. My PCT will consist of the exact schedule you posted above. Thanks for the help btw

 

[LVTitan]

i use NO clomid ever again.. and all i run is nandrolone cycles.. i use nolva/adex during cycle (yes nolva/adex controls my bloat on deca) and i use hcg post cycle along with more nolva/adex.. been off for 2 weeks now, actually putting on weight still..