When should you consume Post-Workout drink?

[DavePeters]

I know alot of people advocate drinking your post-workout drink as soon as you finish training , as the the insulin released will negate the cortisol produced during the workout . But this is what i have a problem with as the the insulin will also negate the growth hormone released during training.

What is the answer to this?

 

[Babyfaced Assassin]

Glucose or Maltodextrin/Dextrose mix
Hydrolised whey or Isolate
BCAAs

those are most important

If you want add:

Creatine
ALA

 

[DavePeters]

Babyface , my question was not WHAT it was WHEN.

From : http://www.medical-library.net/sites/framer.html?/sites/_human_growth_hormone_(hgh).html

"Now, let us talk about the most powerful way possible to increase growth hormone release: exercise. Vigorous, sustained, anaerobic exercise causes the release of growth hormone, as every serious body builder knows well.

There is one way to block the release of growth hormone, even in the presence of this type of exercise, and that is carbohydrate intake. For maximal effect, body builders consume pure protein, no carbohydrates, and pump iron to exhaustion. (I am not suggesting you do that, only making a point.)

To get the best HGH release, use of the largest muscles in the body is best, namely the lower extremities. A body-builder favorite is to place a heavy barbell on the shoulders and do repeated squats. They do not reach for the sport drink after that because the infusion of carbs wipes out the HGH response."

 

[sawastea]

The best time to consume your PWO is immediately following your workout. There is a small window where it is most beneficial (around 30 min +/-)

followed by your PWO (carb/protein) meal about an hour (+/-) after your shake

 

[d3track]

i couldn't find the article of your link
but it sounds like the ingestion on ONLY CARBS is what affects gh output
your post workout shake should be carbs&protien
if i remember right, the gh output is triggered durring the extensive sets, not after
so wait 10-15 minutes after your workout and then down your shake

 

[DavePeters]

d3 track for some reason the link doesn't add the final hgh).html
click on it add then just add the (hgh).html on and it will work

 

[Synpax]

Use the creatine immediatly.

 

[KoRn01ForLife]

Glucose or Maltodextrin/Dextrose mix
Hydrolised whey or Isolate
BCAAs

those are most important

If you want add:

Creatine
ALA

I mix 2 scoops whey with 2 cups 1% milk a banana and a tablespoon (or a bit more) with peanut butter. Is this good enough (carbohydrate wise)? If not, how do I get maltodextrin/dextrose or glucose in it? Do I need to get a powder, or is there food that will be enough? My creatine has glucose but I cycled off for a while, so now its just the above mentioned shake.

 

[tbone1227]

IMO - dump the banana, milk and peanut butter - just go with protein powder, and a 50/50 mix of malto & dextrose - im not sure that you need or want the fat in your post workout shake

 

[KoRn01ForLife]

IMO - dump the banana, milk and peanut butter - just go with protein powder, and a 50/50 mix of malto & dextrose - im not sure that you need or want the fat in your post workout shake

malto and dextrose are in powder form?? if so, the 3 powders would be mixed together in water rather than milk?

 

[KoRn01ForLife]

disregard the last question. I now know that they are in powder form. This means now yet ANOTHER freakin supplement to buy. Unless there is a food substitute? How about dumping some oats into the shake??

 

[tbone1227]

im pretty sure that some people do use oatmeal in there protein shake as well - although i for dont like that method as it takes too long to absorb and after a workout your body needs to replenish - i find that the 50/50 mix with protein works pretty well, you get an insulin spike but you also get the slow absorbed lower GI as well from the malto....everyone once in a while if i dont have time and need a protein shake with carbs I will load up the whey add a scoop of raw oats and mix together with water, tastes pretty good to me

 

[rjl296]

i go 2:1 cho- pro.
try to use high GI carbs

 

[KoRn01ForLife]

what are some high GI carbs besides malto/dextro?? Anyhting I can add that is not powder?

 

[tbone1227]

sweet tarts - pretty much all dextrose - other than that im not sure

 

[KoRn01ForLife]

thanks although I found a place to get some malto/dextro powder

 

[tbone1227]

the best way to use the 2 is get carbo gain or a malto-dex and have your dextrose as well - so you can mix in equal portions of both...

 

[motar]

hey KoRn01ForLife,

Your going to want to keep your PW meal liquid. This way it will be asorbed very rapidly which will in return:

1.) get rid of all the cortisol in your body causing catabolism
2.) I believe protein synthesis is increased 300% during your "anabolic window"
3.) Also I believe it was BBF who said that muscle glycogen uptake is increased 160%.

 

[KoRn01ForLife]

hey KoRn01ForLife,

Your going to want to keep your PW meal liquid. This way it will be asorbed very rapidly which will in return:

1.) get rid of all the cortisol in your body causing catabolism
2.) I believe protein synthesis is increased 300% during your "anabolic window"
3.) Also I believe it was BBF who said that muscle glycogen uptake is increased 160%.

definitely

 

[david_diesel]

I use isopure's packets for my PW shake plus another scoop of dextrose. the isopure packets are 50g protein and 25g carbs most all of which is malto. mix this with a scoop of dextrose and i have a perfect 1:1 ratio good for 400 pW calories...of course 600 mg ALA too

 

[kingsbury]

I'd say that the best time to drink your post workout shake would be after your workout.......if you did it before, then it would be a pre workout shake and if you had while you were still working out it would be a while working out shake...so I'd advise you to drink the post workout shake after you're done working out....but not too far after because then it might be considered a pre workout shake if you wait too long and then workout again.....