When Does PCT Start?

[Nelson Montana]

I see lots of threads like this. The simple answer is -- BEFORE the cycle.

That's right. Not only do you need everything up front. But you have to PREVENT suppression as much as "cure" it.

EVer since message boards began there's been this notion that one drug causes a problem and another drug cures it. Then of course, THAT drug has a side effect and you need something to counteract it. It's like everybody is wasting time and money and gambling with their health when they could have avoided the problems in the first place.

SO for everyone who wants to know HOW to supplement their recovery -- here's a crash course.

While on:

HCGenerate -- to slow down suppression.

N2GUARD: To protect against hypertension, cholesterol and to restore receptors.

Formastanazol: To keep excess estrogen at bay.

GEAR: To make the most of the cycle

AFTER the Cycle.

HMG -- to jumpstart the HPTA.

UNLEASHED-- to maximize FREE testosterone and increase libido.

POST CYCLE -- to clean the liver, remove "bad" estrones and support erectile. function.

GEAR: To maximize nitrogen retention while coming off.

AFter PCT :

BRIDGE: To maintain the "on" feeling

GEAR: To stay in an anabolic state.


EVerything else is gravy. But THESE, you absolutely need. Or don't juice. (Or don'tt complain if you have problems).

At this point it's no mystery. This work. You can add stuff, but you can;t take these away. DO it right. And make sure EVERYTHING is in you cabinet before that first shot.

And kill it in the gym!!!

 

[-SD-]

EF needs to have in house financing for the cost of all that stuff

 

[reggie1387]

awesome write up nelson that might help answer a few peoples pct questions.

 

[Typo]

Wow that's a lot of stuff.

I used nothing while on cycle (500mg test e a week), I did a nolva only pct and my levels are fine.

Am I just lucky?

 

[stevesmi]

Wow that's a lot of stuff.

I used nothing while on cycle (500mg test e a week), I did a nolva only pct and my levels are fine.

Am I just lucky?

try running tren or deca and running nolva only.. it won't be very fun afterwards.

 

[Cali72]

After finishing off a mild 12 weeker will a couple of doses of HMG at 75iu be sufficient for pct with unleashed and post cycle? HCG will be used on cycle at 250iu 2x week starting from week 4?

 

[Nelson Montana]

After finishing off a mild 12 weeker will a couple of doses of HMG at 75iu be sufficient for pct with unleashed and post cycle? HCG will be used on cycle at 250iu 2x week starting from week 4?

Sure. The point of the "on cycle" supps is to make it easier and protect nasty sides.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Wow that's a lot of stuff.

I used nothing while on cycle (500mg test e a week), I did a nolva only pct and my levels are fine.

Am I just lucky?

You had a blood test and no elevated enzymes or LDL, test was high, recovery fast and estrogen low? You ARE lucky.

 

[Nelson Montana]

EF needs to have in house financing for the cost of all that stuff

It's not that much.

N2GUARD is only a few dollars more than a good multi. No brainer.

UNLEASHED and POST CYCLE come out to a total of about $3 a day. Best bang for your buck around.

BRIDGE maintains the sense of being "on" at 2 bucks a day.

HCGen is the biggest expense so look out for sales and discounts.

GEAR insures you get enough protein, which every bodybuilder needs anyway.

So all in all, it isn't a big price to pay considering what you get.