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When Cutting on a Cycle how much calories is too low?

i get nervous when i hit bodyweight times 12. thats it for me, any lower and i feel like the muscle is going to go bye-bye. i make sure i get 1.5 grams protein per lb bodyweight no matter what calorie level i am at also. that plus anabolics and you should be OK.
 
I am about 210 lbs and never drop under 2000 cals...but I feel really shitty when I go anywhere near that low. Personally I would stick with 3000 when I am cutting...my maintence cals is prob around 4250 so that is way under for me.
 
Greek Freak said:
I am about 210 lbs and never drop under 2000 cals...but I feel really shitty when I go anywhere near that low. Personally I would stick with 3000 when I am cutting...my maintence cals is prob around 4250 so that is way under for me.


yeah, me at 180 lbs or so times 12 is around 2 grand. and that is rock bottom! i throw in a cheat day once a week to level it off. but keep it strict the other 6 days. works well. you can even do a cheat day and a semi-cheat day too. go big one day and then the other day just go half as big as the cheat day. then go back strict for 5 days. that worked for me too.
 
well i am not sure of the lowest...but when i went from 235 to about 220 with 5000 calories a day. maybe that would be a good place for you to start.
 
warbird hit it dead on. 12x body weight. If on anabolics (espcially fina) you can throw in weekly or beweekly cheats. God I miss fina, eat like shit 1 day a week with a few bad meals during the week and still got ripped. w/0 fina eat perfect and still fighting to get to 8% b.f.
 
Not sure you should....

The whole point of using gear is to "bulk" (general rule--I know some gear is designed for cutting cycles).

Don't worry about dropping body fat until you complete the cycle. If you're on year-round, I guess that doesn't work.

The basic plan I'm on always goes from bulking to cutting diets. General rule is to increase by 500 cal/day if not making gains. When waist expands by 2", go into cutting mode. Train hard, but not so much to expect gains. Drop by 1,500 cal/day until the fat comes off then increase back by 1,000 cal/day and see what happens.

The guy who came up with this set these numbers because to drop more than 1,500 cal/day would shock the system into thinking it was starving (having a different effect than you burning off fat--even canibalizing existing muscle). Going back up by 1,000 cal/day would quickly reestablish the muscle mass you had and you can see if gains resume or if you need to go up another 500 cal/day.
 
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