What's wrong with Diet Coke?

[Ish]

http://www.mamassecrets.com/diet_coke.htm

Countless numbers of dieters consume Diet Coke thinking that it is inert to their diet efforts. After all, it's called Diet Coke, right? Wrong!

Diet Coke, regardless of how many calories it has, wreaks havoc on

your fat loss efforts and will ultimately cause you to gain weight.

There are two main reasons for the Diet Coke fallacy. First, the

sweet taste from Diet Coke elicits an insulin spike, which blocks

your ability to burn fat. Second, artificial sweeteners found in

Diet Coke disrupt satiety, the feeling of being full. Combined, the

actions of Diet Coke go against a healthy lifestyle. Understanding

why ensures that we think twice before consuming it.



When it comes to losing fat, it is more about how much sugar (or

sugar substitute) you consume rather than calories or dietary fat

intake. Hence, the goal is to consume as little sugar or sugar

substitute as possible (including fruits and their juices). Why? The

sweet flavor elicits the release of insulin from the pancreas to

enhance the uptake of sugar by the cells so that it doesn't linger

in the bloodstream. Once insulin is released it inhibits your fat

burning hormone called HSL (hormone sensitive lipase). This hormone

is responsible for releasing fat into the bloodstream to be utilized

as fuel. If inhibited, your body is unable to burn fat and will then

begin utilizing amino acids (from muscle) and carbohydrates as fuel.

This will leave you feeling tired, grumpy, and sloth-like toward the

end of the day. Not to mention, you will become abnormally hungry.

Those with large amounts of HSL burn fat all day and look thin and

slim. Those who inhibit it by eating or drinking the wrong

substances grow fat throughout their adult years.



Second, as discovered by Professor Terry Davidson and associate

professor Susan Withers at Purdue University, artificial sweeteners

disrupt satiety, the feeling of being full. Their results,

published in International Journal of Obesity showed that "mouth

feel" plays a crucial role in the body's ability to count calories

and that when we consume artificial sweeteners we disrupt the body's

ability to count calories based on sweetness. Not able to use mouth

feel to count calories, those who drink diet coke will overeat

without conscious awareness. In other words, you think you're not

eating like a pig, but in reality you are.



Diet Coke is not the only substance having these abilities. Makers

of health food bars and protein supplements are either not aware or

ignore the ill effects of sugar alternatives and sugar. This can be

seen by the fact that most every health food bar and protein

supplement is loaded with sugar or artificial sweeteners. The

belief that these bars and supplements are healthy for you is a

perfect example of how marketing strategies can supersede medical

science and common sense.



In closing, Diet Coke is a joke. Stay away from it and other sugar

sources if you're serious about losing fat and keeping it off

forever. Regardless of your diet and/or training efforts, the

aforementioned ill effects of sugar alternatives and sugar will

greatly hinder them.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR:

Shane holds a Master's degree in organic chemistry and has first- hand industry experience with drug research, design and synthesis.

He knows that American's want and deserve education, not prescriptions! His shocking book can be found at www.healthmyths.net - His nutritional supplements at www.health- fx.net.

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

great advice. Karma to you.

 

[rnch]

because it tastes like ASS!!!!!!!

 

[chewyxrage]

http://www.mamassecrets.com/diet_coke.htm

First, the sweet taste from Diet Coke elicits an insulin spike

I don't see how that can be possible. "A sweet taste" alone cannot cause an insulin spike

 

[swole]

Good post. Before reading that I had 1 stand on diet drinks: Every chance to drink one is a chance you could be drinking water.

 

[NJRipped]

I was drinking about a twelve pack of Diet Coke per day up until about 3 mos ago when I quit after having my teeth whitened (Dentist said that it would interfere with the bleaching process). My BF levels have stayed the same since. Although I am glad I quit, I do not think it affects fat levels.

 

[anthrax]

I'd like to see any study proving that artificial sweeteners induce an insulin spike

Highly improbable IMO

 

[Isaac79]

I don't believe something spikes insulin levels, just because its sweet. I don't drink diet coke, because it contains aspartame, and I've read many bad things on aspartame which I actually believe. I only use splenda as a sugar substitute, probably they will find side effects from splenda too, but until than I will use it.

 

[jenscats5]

I'd like to see any study proving that artificial sweeteners induce an insulin spike

Highly improbable IMO

Info I've read says that the "sweet taste" causes the body to think that there will be carbs entering the body after it recognizes the sweet taste. When those carbs don't show up, the body continues to crave the carbs & some studies have found that people will nosh on carbs to fulfill the body's craving for the carbs that it didn't get after ingesting the carb-free sweet soft drink.

However, I think if you recognize that this occurs & just don't eat anything, then you'll overcome it. Diet Pepsi satisfies my sweet craving & actually makes me feel full.

 

[anthrax]

Info I've read says that the "sweet taste" causes the body to think that there will be carbs entering the body after it recognizes the sweet taste. When those carbs don't show up, the body continues to crave the carbs & some studies have found that people will nosh on carbs to fulfill the body's craving for the carbs that it didn't get after ingesting the carb-free sweet soft drink.

However, I think if you recognize that this occurs & just don't eat anything, then you'll overcome it. Diet Pepsi satisfies my sweet craving & actually makes me feel full.

With that reasoning I guess that the single smell of some hot chocoalte and pecans cookies getting out of the oven would make you fat

 

[*MissFit*]

better to drink diet coke then regular .. right

 

[jenscats5]

With that reasoning I guess that the single smell of some hot chocoalte and pecans cookies getting out of the oven would make you fat

LOL smarty pants.....

No it has more to do with the brain recognizing sweetness on the tongue thus signaling the body to get ready for the influx of carbs.....when that doesn't happen, the body continues to "crave" carbs till it gets said carbs

 

[juve]

*sigh* - none of the sources posted are of any credence - just some holictic assessment based on archival research, theoretical extrapolation and anecdotal feedback. In scientific world this kind of reference literature will earn you a title of a 'jester'.
I am not denying the fact that artificial sweetners could potentially be harmful, but that CANNOT be inferred from the 'garbage' above

 

[NJRipped]

You're right but I suspect they would find a correlation in your example too.

With that reasoning I guess that the single smell of some hot chocoalte and pecans cookies getting out of the oven would make you fat

 

[anthrax]

You're right but I suspect they would find a correlation in your example too.

Looks like the Pavlov's dogs

 

[the guy on the couch]

I stopped reading when it said it illicits an insulin spike. What's he selling? Oh! A book! Full of useful BULLSHIT like that.

Taken from pubmed:

Sweet taste: effect on cephalic phase insulin release in men.

Teff KL, Devine J, Engelman K.

Monell Chemical Senses Center, Philadelphia, PA 19104, USA.

To determine whether sweet-tasting solutions are effective elicitors of cephalic phase insulin release (CPIR) in humans, two studies were conducted using nutritive and nonnutritive sweeteners as stimuli. Normal weight men sipped and spit four different solutions: water, aspartame, saccharin, and sucrose. A fifth condition involved a modified sham-feed with apple pie. The five stimuli were administered in counterbalanced order, each on a separate day. In study 1, subjects tasted the stimuli for 1 min (n = 15) and in study 2 (n = 16), they tasted the stimuli for 3 min. Arterialized venous blood was drawn to establish a baseline and then at 1 min poststimulus, followed by every 2 min for 15 min and then every 5 min for 15 min. In both study 1 and study 2, no significant increases in plasma insulin were observed after subjects tasted the sweetened solutions. In contrast, significant increases in plasma insulin occurred after the modified sham-feed with both the 1 min and 3 min exposure. These results suggest that nutritive and nonnutritive sweeteners in solution are not adequate stimuli for the elicitation of CPIR.

In summary: the mere taste of sweetness caused by sugar, aspartame, or saccharin caused NO RISE IN INSULIN LEVELS.

If it takes someone less than 5 minutes to disprove your ass, you've got some nerve writing ANYTHING.

This asshat should be caned. Fuck him and fuck his book.

-the guy

 

[deltreefitness]

What I'm wondering if artificial sweeters (like aspartame) induce an insulin spike why is is used by diabetics? A childhood friend of mine that had type I diabetes drank tons of diet coke. I didn't notice him having to pump in any insulin when he did.

EDIT: Nevermind, I'm an idiot.

Not real sugar = no need for insulin.

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

http://www.mamassecrets.com/diet_coke.htm

Countless numbers of dieters consume Diet Coke thinking that it is inert to their diet efforts. After all, it's called Diet Coke, right? Wrong!

Diet Coke, regardless of how many calories it has, wreaks havoc on

your fat loss efforts and will ultimately cause you to gain weight.

There are two main reasons for the Diet Coke fallacy. First, the

sweet taste from Diet Coke elicits an insulin spike, which blocks

your ability to burn fat. Second, artificial sweeteners found in

Diet Coke disrupt satiety, the feeling of being full. Combined, the

actions of Diet Coke go against a healthy lifestyle. Understanding

why ensures that we think twice before consuming it.



When it comes to losing fat, it is more about how much sugar (or

sugar substitute) you consume rather than calories or dietary fat

intake. Hence, the goal is to consume as little sugar or sugar

substitute as possible (including fruits and their juices). Why? The

sweet flavor elicits the release of insulin from the pancreas to

enhance the uptake of sugar by the cells so that it doesn't linger

in the bloodstream. Once insulin is released it inhibits your fat

burning hormone called HSL (hormone sensitive lipase). This hormone

is responsible for releasing fat into the bloodstream to be utilized

as fuel. If inhibited, your body is unable to burn fat and will then

begin utilizing amino acids (from muscle) and carbohydrates as fuel.

This will leave you feeling tired, grumpy, and sloth-like toward the

end of the day. Not to mention, you will become abnormally hungry.

Those with large amounts of HSL burn fat all day and look thin and

slim. Those who inhibit it by eating or drinking the wrong

substances grow fat throughout their adult years.



Second, as discovered by Professor Terry Davidson and associate

professor Susan Withers at Purdue University, artificial sweeteners

disrupt satiety, the feeling of being full. Their results,

published in International Journal of Obesity showed that "mouth

feel" plays a crucial role in the body's ability to count calories

and that when we consume artificial sweeteners we disrupt the body's

ability to count calories based on sweetness. Not able to use mouth

feel to count calories, those who drink diet coke will overeat

without conscious awareness. In other words, you think you're not

eating like a pig, but in reality you are.



Diet Coke is not the only substance having these abilities. Makers

of health food bars and protein supplements are either not aware or

ignore the ill effects of sugar alternatives and sugar. This can be

seen by the fact that most every health food bar and protein

supplement is loaded with sugar or artificial sweeteners. The

belief that these bars and supplements are healthy for you is a

perfect example of how marketing strategies can supersede medical

science and common sense.



In closing, Diet Coke is a joke. Stay away from it and other sugar

sources if you're serious about losing fat and keeping it off

forever. Regardless of your diet and/or training efforts, the

aforementioned ill effects of sugar alternatives and sugar will

greatly hinder them.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR:

Shane holds a Master's degree in organic chemistry and has first- hand industry experience with drug research, design and synthesis.

He knows that American's want and deserve education, not prescriptions! His shocking book can be found at www.healthmyths.net - His nutritional supplements at www.health- fx.net.

100% Disagree...keep drinking calorie free, sugar free drinks

 

[Ish]

This is just an article I found when a co-worker asked if diet soda was alright. I thought it was, but he has gained around 60-75lbs once he started drinking it all day. He used to drink water at work all the time, but now he probably goes through 2 liters of diet soda a day at work. His diet has changed also, but not that much worse. He is always hungry now also. I would think diet soda was alright in moderation, but I don't know for sure. That's why I wanted to ask the question here where more people know about diet than I do. Is it safe to drink diet soda? Does it have an adverse effect on your kidneys or anything like that? How much is ok, and how much is too much soda? Would you be better off drinking caffine free tea with a pack of splenda? I don't drink it, but I was just curious. Why do I see so many fat people drinking diet soda. I mainly just wanted to get you input on if diet soda was good for you or not. Thanks.

 

[JKurz1]

This is just an article I found when a co-worker asked if diet soda was alright. I thought it was, but he has gained around 60-75lbs once he started drinking it all day. He used to drink water at work all the time, but now he probably goes through 2 liters of diet soda a day at work. His diet has changed also, but not that much worse. He is always hungry now also. I would think diet soda was alright in moderation, but I don't know for sure. That's why I wanted to ask the question here where more people know about diet than I do. Is it safe to drink diet soda? Does it have an adverse effect on your kidneys or anything like that? How much is ok, and how much is too much soda? Would you be better off drinking caffine free tea with a pack of splenda? I don't drink it, but I was just curious. Why do I see so many fat people drinking diet soda. I mainly just wanted to get you input on if diet soda was good for you or not. Thanks.

Hey.....end of story.....calories in = calories out OR you will gain weight.....very simple. NO WAY you can gain weight from drinking a zero calorie beverage.....I'll put my house on it that his diet was out of wack somewhere else..............

 

[psychedout]

LOL at anyone who believes what Ish posted. It would appear no one does.

 

[deltreefitness]

Hey.....end of story.....calories in = calories out OR you will gain weight.....very simple. NO WAY you can gain weight from drinking a zero calorie beverage.....I'll put my house on it that his diet was out of wack somewhere else..............

There are many zero-calorie substances or chemicals that have an effect on metabolism.

 

[Debaser]

There are a shitload of reasons not to drink diet coke. If you need someone to convince you it will make you fatter before you stop drinking it, you're an idiot anyway.

 

[nikolai_bolkov]

diet soda like all sodas will rot your teeth though, at least strip them of enamel

 

[Roonytunes]

So what's a good drink to have in a social situation when you want to avoid alcohol, but saying "a tall glass of water" is just not appropriate or too blah when everyone is having a real cocktail? Club soda with a twist of lime? I don't think there's anything other than fizz in that....

 

[Nucman]

A real story here:
My mom, who did little to no exercise, had a 12 pack of coke a day habit, and was a little overweight(typical 60 y/o female in America). After the doc said her triglycerides and cholesterol were too high, he suggested she switch to diet coke(otherwise her diet was OK). Bam, 6 mos later, she's 20lbs lighter and blood work is within normal range. Diet coke did not make her fatter! She lost weight, just by changing that 1 thing in her diet. I'm not suggesting anyone drink 12 everyday, but if you have the choice, a 0 cal beverage would be better.

 

[Ish]

Dropping 1440 calories of sugar a day out of her diet by not drinking regular coke should make her lose weight.

 

[Ish]

http://diabetes.about.com/od/sweeteners/a/pavlovsweetener.htm

Just another article I found interesting.

 

[wootoom]

i heard its actually good to have one once in awhile

 

[anthrax]

i heard its actually good to have one once in awhile

Why ?

 

[wootoom]

its a joke. i think everything with aspartame is very bad for you

 

[deltreefitness]

So what's a good drink to have in a social situation when you want to avoid alcohol, but saying "a tall glass of water" is just not appropriate or too blah when everyone is having a real cocktail? Club soda with a twist of lime? I don't think there's anything other than fizz in that....

What is it not appropriate? I order water everywhere. If you're worried about not ordering a expensive drink leave a tip.

 

[Ish]

I love the occasional condescending "just water?" I get from servers. It's like they are pissed I don't want something else to drink.

What is it not appropriate? I order water everywhere. If you're worried about not ordering a expensive drink leave a tip.

 

[Slyder190]

I'll tell you what's wrong with Diet Coke, it doesn't taste nearly as good as Diet Pepsi.

 

[drbones2]

Info I've read says that the "sweet taste" causes the body to think that there will be carbs entering the body after it recognizes the sweet taste. When those carbs don't show up, the body continues to crave the carbs & some studies have found that people will nosh on carbs to fulfill the body's craving for the carbs that it didn't get after ingesting the carb-free sweet soft drink.

However, I think if you recognize that this occurs & just don't eat anything, then you'll overcome it. Diet Pepsi satisfies my sweet craving & actually makes me feel full.

I've heard something like this too... but saying that it causes an insulin spike has GOT to be complete BS....

I used to drink half a dozen a day and was hanging in the high 8% BF level...

I don't think they are healthy for you for other reasons.. but making you fat is not one of them.

 

[JKurz1]

A real story here:
My mom, who did little to no exercise, had a 12 pack of coke a day habit, and was a little overweight(typical 60 y/o female in America). After the doc said her triglycerides and cholesterol were too high, he suggested she switch to diet coke(otherwise her diet was OK). Bam, 6 mos later, she's 20lbs lighter and blood work is within normal range. Diet coke did not make her fatter! She lost weight, just by changing that 1 thing in her diet. I'm not suggesting anyone drink 12 everyday, but if you have the choice, a 0 cal beverage would be better.

DUH.......in your mom's case (no pun intended), she nixed about 1500 calories of pure JUNK...think about it.......diet pepsi,coke has what? one calorie????? Diet whatever is FINE........I have one now and again but I drink a ton of 0 calorie drinks and still am sub 7%.....coffee, flavored water, tea, etc. My asparmate levels are probably through the roof, but nothing a little stomach discomfort wont take care of.......

 

[anthrax]

Some people are taking shitload of veterinary steroids from unknown source and they are afraid of aspartame

 

[deltreefitness]

Some people are taking shitload of veterinary steroids from unknown source and they are afraid of aspartame