Thanks for your messages guys. I have done one cycle which I got off a few weeks ago of test and winny. What sucks is I have had two shoulder operations in the past year, so this cycle kind of was a rebuilding cycle. Before the operations I was somewhere in the 170's all natural(im 5'9'' by the way), now I'm about 185. I have never got a chance to lift for long periods of time. The longest duration of lifting has been over a summer, then I had to stop because my shoulders. I've always been to preocupied with sports, and then I kept injuring my shoulders. Now after the operations I'm ready to stay on a program and keep lifting.