Whats the difference between enanthate and cypionate

[The_Chemist]

I can't do a proper search now becasue i'm not platinum.

I have heard that the only difference is the duration of the ester; enanthate lasting 14days and cypionate lasting 10. But, Greg Zulak once said that anyone who claims one drug or the other has a greater effect for them is totally stupid becasue they act the same way in the body.

The reason I'm asking is...I just finished a 12 week test cycle a few months ago. The first 9 weeks were enanthate, but I ran out on week 9 and had to switch to cypionate for the last few. I noticed a measurable difference in pumps and strength gains within 4 days without a change in diet, rest or training.

Does anybody else hear who runs high dose test(750mg) notice a measurable difference between the two???

 

[DaddyX]

with test the ester is the only difference.....

 

[Canuck4]

Not really a big difference with those 2.

 

[Juice Authority]

One carbon

 

[The_Eviscerator]

Here is the difference and much, much more:

Steroid esters Drug Active half-life
Formate 1.5 days
Acetate 3 days
Propionate 4.5 days
Phenylpropionate 4.5 days
Butyrate 6 days
Valerate 7.5 days
Hexanoate 9 days
Caproate 9 days
Isocaproate 9 days
Heptanoate 10.5 days
Enanthate 10.5 days
Octanoate 12 days
Cypionate 12 days
Nonanoate 13.5 days
Decanoate 15 days
Undecanoate 16.5 days

To answer your question, there isn't much of a difference.

 

[psychedout]

Thanks Eviscerator for posting that.

 

[jboldman]

Gotta love that heptanoate is listed seperately from enanthate!

I also do not belive that enanathates half-life is anywhere near 10.5 days.

jb

 

[L.D. 50]

For all practical purposes, the only "difference" is usually cost.

 

[The_Eviscerator]

Gotta love that heptanoate is listed seperately from enanthate!

I also do not belive that enanathates half-life is anywhere near 10.5 days.

jb

You may be right:

Enanthate: Chemical Structure C7H14O2.
Also referred to as heptanoic acid; enanthic acid; enanthylic acid; heptylic acid; heptoic acid; Oenanthylic acid; Oenanthic acid. Enanthate is one of the most prominent esters used in steroid manufacture (most commonly seen with testosterone but is also used in other compounds like Primobolan Depot). Enanthate will release a steady (yet fluctuating as all esters are) level of hormone for approximately 10-14 days. Although in medicine enanthate compounds are often injected on a bi-weekly or monthly basis, athletes will inject at least weekly to help maintain a uniform blood level.

Cypionate: Chemical Structure C8H14O2.
Also referred to as Cyclopentylpropionic acid, cyclopentylpropionate. Cypionate is a very popular ester here in the U.S., although it is scarcely found outside this region. Its release duration is almost identical to enanthate (10-14 days), and the two are likewise thought to be interchangeable in U.S. medicine. Althletes commonly hold the belief than cypionate is more powerful than enanthate, although realistically there is little difference between the two. The enanthate ester is in fact slightly smaller than cypionate, and it therefore releases a small (perhaps a few milligrams) amount of steroid more in comparison.

 

[pharmguy]

Hey eviscerator, where did you find that list?
pg

 

[The_Eviscerator]

Hey eviscerator, where did you find that list?
pg

Right here on the elite under the articles section.

 

[tapoutm]

Ok eviscerator does any one kind of test make you lose more hair than the other one. And is there any other steriods that are safer to take if you are already worried about losing hair. Thanks.

 

[John450]

From my experience cyp hurts and costs more than enanthate.

 

[The_Eviscerator]

Ok eviscerator does any one kind of test make you lose more hair than the other one. And is there any other steriods that are safer to take if you are already worried about losing hair. Thanks.

Test is test... if you lose hair from test, no change in the release time (which is all an ester does) will save your hair. I would think Deca or primo would be easy on the hairline, but some guys say primo is hell. I think if you are genetically predisposed to hair loss, any AAS will fuck you in the end.

Thank God I was descended from a pack of Monchichis . Hairloss is not an issue for me... but acne is another story .

 

[Triple J]

I have found my recent batch of QV cypinate seemed to "agree with me" more than the enanthate, producing no sides gyno-wise as compared to enanthate, which typically causes a little flair up with each shot. The cypinate just seemed to provide a smoother release (more even blood levels).

However, I also think I am very BA sensitive and that BA flairs up my gyno. I recently got a tetnus boost and that fucking shot hurt like a bitch for four days and I had a bad gyno flare-up when prior I had no sides at while being on letro. QV TE is more concentrated and contains more BA as compare to the TC.

 

[The_Chemist]

If they are truly the same...then why do legitimate north american pharmaceutical companies produce both compounds.

I know this beyond the shadow of a doubt, because i know two men over 50 who are both on hrt. Both go to the same Md, but one is prescribed enanthte, while the other is prescribed cyp.

There must be something else that shows how they react different in the body.

Anyone?????

 

[Imnotdutch]

They are similar not the same..........

If they are truly the same...then why do legitimate north american pharmaceutical companies produce both compounds.

I know this beyond the shadow of a doubt, because i know two men over 50 who are both on hrt. Both go to the same Md, but one is prescribed enanthte, while the other is prescribed cyp.

There must be something else that shows how they react different in the body.

Anyone?????

 

[jboldman]

They are very close to being the same, perhaps a slight difference in half-life but i can not imagine any "real" difference. If anyone notices some diffrence, more pain, faster acting, etc. it has to be due to the amount of ba/bb and/or the oil base they are in. Remember different oils have different release rates. Of course as soon as you change the concentration the whole mix changes, more bb, less oil, etc. If you had cyp and enanthate made by the same company, using the same solvents and bacteriostatic additives in the same concentration it would seem highly unlikely that anyone would tell the difference.

jb

If they are truly the same...then why do legitimate north american pharmaceutical companies produce both compounds.

I know this beyond the shadow of a doubt, because i know two men over 50 who are both on hrt. Both go to the same Md, but one is prescribed enanthte, while the other is prescribed cyp.

There must be something else that shows how they react different in the body.

Anyone?????

 

[geoboy]

The first 9 weeks were enanthate, but I ran out on week 9 and had to switch to cypionate for the last few. I noticed a measurable difference in pumps and strength gains within 4 days without a change in diet, rest or training.

The CYP improved the pumps/gains?

 

[celica]

well which is better?

 

[jboldman]

Whichever is cheapest!

jb

 

[strongisland631]

definitely both the same. sometimes i hold slightly more water with cyp.

 

[b1ewsw32]

For all practical purposes, the only "difference" is usually cost.

Yeah, but from where I come from it's a whole 38 cents between depo-t and dela-t, both are at a gram a pop.
They both have essentially the same half-life and both contain 28mgs of esterfied weight and 72mgs of base hormone per 100mgs. They are interchangeable and produce the same amount of water retention and other sides, as I have used both on several occasions.
So basically they're twin brothers with diffferent mothers.

 

[superbigzane]

ethanate and cyp?

both are slow acting , i dont like them both

i stick to test prop and the best is test suspension..

test suspension= 0 ESTER, SUPER FAST ACTING.. 24 hours half life i thnik

its beautiful