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you said that you train hard so it isnt a problem,,, i actually was shown about 1.5 yrs ago that i was training too hard to gain... training hard is not the same as training smart. If you over work you mscles then they actually get smaller.. lots of things can have a bearing on this, like recovery time between workouts, and working out too frequently with the same regoins, things lke this, What is your workout routine for any given week?

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ego boner said:
you said that you train hard so it isnt a problem,,, i actually was shown about 1.5 yrs ago that i was training too hard to gain... training hard is not the same as training smart. If you over work you mscles then they actually get smaller.. lots of things can have a bearing on this, like recovery time between workouts, and working out too frequently with the same regoins, things lke this, What is your workout routine for any given week?

Ego Boner

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That and stress, natural recovery time, 'supplements'.. but i agree, if you are having a problem gaining, try a new method.
 
ego boner said:
you said that you train hard so it isnt a problem,,, i actually was shown about 1.5 yrs ago that i was training too hard to gain... training hard is not the same as training smart. If you over work you mscles then they actually get smaller.. lots of things can have a bearing on this, like recovery time between workouts, and working out too frequently with the same regoins, things lke this, What is your workout routine for any given week?

Ego Boner

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years ago, i used to severly overtrain. it was common for me to do 30+ sets for chest. never grew too much though. now, when im off, i only do about 12. when i first started doing less set that when i really packed on some size.
 
dugie and ego make excellent points... just gonna chime in here.... definitely change up the diet.... you yourself said you gained 9 pounds just from initial changes to your diet... now imagine if fine-tune it even more.... eat the right stuff, and the right amounts...at the right times...and you're golden!

Also, if you over-train, you won't get huge...you'll only slow your gains.... few other suggestions.... don't drink milk in the AM when you wake up if you're having a shake.... it will slow down the digestion and you want to fuel your body fast since it's been depleted during sleep.... whenever you're haing those 2 eggs.... change that to something like 6-8 egg whites (maybe 1 egg yolk mixed in)... you must have a good shake right after your workout.... fast-digesting protein with high glycemic carbs ... no milk for this shake either... you want your body to use this shake quickly....milk will slow it down.... I usually have some milk with my mid-day or mid-afternoon shakes...

trust the guys here....they're speaking from experience....wait a few years before jumping into AAS... your buddies may not be as well-guided as you are and could set themselves up for disaster.... knowledge is everything!

Good luck!
 
First thanks for all the replies. Second sorry for taking so long got stuck working a double. The better diet not off to a good start, stuck at work 8 extra hours killed me. As far as training, i do chest and back day 1, cable cross over, flat dumbell and some barbell, with other back exercise maybe 3 or 4. 1 day off. next day squats deadlifts and some more leg stuff(not sure of names). day off. bicep, tricep, forearms, skull crushers,preacher curl and 5 more i am not sure of. Then 2 days off. I take more time off than some but i just take awhile to heal it seems. Also everything is done 1 set 12 2nd set 6 to 8 and 3rd 3 to 5(adding weight each time). All last sets are done to failure
 
jayson311 said:
First thanks for all the replies. Second sorry for taking so long got stuck working a double. The better diet not off to a good start, stuck at work 8 extra hours killed me. As far as training, i do chest and back day 1, cable cross over, flat dumbell and some barbell, with other back exercise maybe 3 or 4. 1 day off. next day squats deadlifts and some more leg stuff(not sure of names). day off. bicep, tricep, forearms, skull crushers,preacher curl and 5 more i am not sure of. Then 2 days off. I take more time off than some but i just take awhile to heal it seems. Also everything is done 1 set 12 2nd set 6 to 8 and 3rd 3 to 5(adding weight each time). All last sets are done to failure

no offense but that doesnt explain or outline your workout very well, plus what do you put in your body RIGHT after you finish your routine? you need to be puttin in PROTEIN or some glutamine or even some creatine immediately after.... my addtl .02

Galaxy has said that chocolate milk is good after a w/o.. which is what i am starting to do today in addition to my diet.

Ego Boner
 
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