What would heal the world???

[Testosterone boy]

Bros.....we have a very serious situation on our hands. Very serious.

Given the nuclear age and bioviruses and our financial/stock market over reactions to "events"...........we should all be very, very concerned.

More than ever...we need friends and support that we can count on to counter whatever al Queda may bring. They may be licking their chops at a couple more swings at the USA...they would not do this so readily if they knew they would face global retribution.


Seriously....there is a strong argument for re-aligning ourselves with the goodwill of the United Nations.

This will require a new administration of course.

So...................vote for the ....ahem........democrat.

 

[biteme]

Yes.

 

[starfish]

Peace, Love and Sex


Just let me run things

 

[jerkbox]

nuclear winter

 

[Testosterone boy]

Peace, Love and Sex


Just let me run things

OK

 

[MAX 300]

Sex sounds good... anyone here who would...

ah fuck it!

 

[Mr. dB]

What would heal the world? Banapple gas!

 

[RADAR]

We need to bomb the whole planet with cake frosting-this will stop terrorists,murders,rapists,and pretty much anything else.
Everyone should be good & mellowed out after all that suger & insulin spike.

RADAR

 

[plornive]

My answer: NOTHING would "heal" the world.

Christianity will fade away as Islam takes hold in poor nations, making the problem worse.

(By the way, there is nothing inherently more violent about Islam than about Christianity. If we were Islamic and still rich/civilized and the now Muslims were Christian, those Christians would have some virally spreading ideas similar in effect to 'suidice bomber' or 'jihad'.)

 

[Testosterone boy]

We need to bomb the whole planet with cake frosting-this will stop terrorists,murders,rapists,and pretty much anything else.
Everyone should be good & mellowed out after all that suger & insulin spike.

RADAR

I like it!

 

[WODIN]

Women need to start roaming the streets naked throwing link sausages at roaming muslims.

 

[ChefWide]

Women need to start roaming the streets naked throwing link sausages at roaming muslims.

A whole lot o' roaming going on!

 

[WODIN]

A whole lot o' roaming going on!

Naked women with huge platters of suckling pig that they can hurl as the doorways of mosque.

(This curling moment brought to you by Bubba's Armadillo Burgers. Road Kill Eats from the best of west Texas)

 

[havoc]

A big bandaid

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

The death of God.

the elimination of the mysticism and lies that we call religion from the human thought process.

 

[Testosterone boy]

The death of God.

the elimination of the mysticism and lies that we call religion from the human thought process.

I'm picking up what you are putting down....many terrible things are done in the name of religion.

On the other side though.....seems to me that mankind may need religion though I am not sure.

Have you ever considered the population problems if religous wars did not periodically purge the population? Science would have progressed more rapidly. That too is both potentially good and bad. It has been good until recently, however I fear that science may now allow us to play God and really screw things up with manufactured viruses etc.

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Have you ever considered the population problems if religous wars did not periodically purge the population? Science would have progressed more rapidly. That too is both potentially good and bad. It has been good until recently, however I fear that science may now allow us to play God and really screw things up with manufactured viruses etc.

If not war, something else. When it comes to population control, nature always wins.

Religion has destroyed so much more than it has created. Chief among what it has destroyed is the reasoning capability of the human mind.

Absent this capability, it has ben easy for man to say "I as your king am only doing God's will".

People respond "OK, I am your slave, God wants it to be so".

That is the history of man.

Time for the mind to strike back and kill god.

 

[plornive]

If not war, something else. When it comes to population control, nature always wins.

Religion has destroyed so much more than it has created. Chief among what it has destroyed is the reasoning capability of the human mind.

Absent this capability, it has ben easy for man to say "I as your king am only doing God's will".

People respond "OK, I am your slave, God wants it to be so".

That is the history of man.

Time for the mind to strike back and kill god.

If I could go back to ancient Greece or Rome, I would build guns, improve technology, progressively improve education and create a better god.

I actually feel like a portion of my intellectual capabilities were stolen from me by Christian ideas. It took a while to shed most of that - a bit too long. One's mind can be sharp with Christian morals and memes, but it certainly won't have a capacity to grasp new ideas.

People today do not believe in god:- They "believe they believe", thus they say "I believe". Since people generally cannot grasp the idea that their experience is a collection of mostly disconnected streams, they feel that they are one free being behind some mysterious interface. The truth is that their "belief" in god is an idea in competition with other much higher priority ideas such as money, status, family, etc.

I have been humoring the idea that Christianity was a "necessary evil", but I am starting to think otherwise.

 

[Burning_Inside]

test/deca?

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

If I could go back to ancient Greece or Rome, I would build guns, improve technology, progressively improve education and create a better god.

I actually feel like a portion of my intellectual capabilities were stolen from me by Christian ideas. It took a while to shed most of that - a bit too long. One's mind can be sharp with Christian morals and memes, but it certainly won't have a capacity to grasp new ideas.

People today do not believe in god:- They "believe they believe", thus they say "I believe". Since people generally cannot grasp the idea that their experience is a collection of mostly disconnected streams, they feel that they are one free being behind some mysterious interface. The truth is that their "belief" in god is an idea in competition with other much higher priority ideas such as money, status, family, etc.

I have been humoring the idea that Christianity was a "necessary evil", but I am starting to think otherwise.

'Monotheism' was a necessary evil. No progress beyond the most basic tribal system was possible when there was a separate spirit in trees, rocks etc. Monotheism united people spiritually.

We can thank the Jews for that breakthrough. Thanks, Jews...the first monotheistic society.

The monothesitic children of Judaism, Christianity and Islam, are the result of emperors who needed to link God to Man, in the person of either Jesus or Mohammed. While Muslims do not claim that Mohammed is God (as Christians do with Jesus), Mohammed is "His prophet" and remains a human link to God.

Islam actually has more in common with Judaism than Christianity, and in the early days of Islam there was a movement among Muslims to merge with Jews, which Jews rejected. (due to centrality of Mohammed amoing other reasons: caliphate etc.)

That wound never healed, huh?

Anyway, the point is that the arising of religions that link man to God are what allowed kings to strip human rights and stop progress in the name of staying in power, and use God as the justification. Judaism, as old as it is, has always been a very humanity-respecting religion: ten Commandments etc.

Any monotheistic religion that followed has been a disaster on humanity.

 

[Robert Jan]

The end of humanity would heal the world.

As often sayd before, alien hostile invasion would soon end all war on earth.

You're not gonna care some other fucker took some land or some oil or worships on a mat facing east and wears a towel on his head, when there are fuckers made of slime that like to turn children into them and have 35 rectangular heat sensors in their asscrack.

 

[Becoming]

If not war, something else. When it comes to population control, nature always wins.

Religion has destroyed so much more than it has created. Chief among what it has destroyed is the reasoning capability of the human mind.

Of course also consider the converse- if religion were not there to supress the despicable actions of many, were they not to fear "going to hell" one can always find some logical argument as to why a law may not apply....

As far as population control, I think we need MORE nature involved... less supporting the weak and the stupid... Not killing people off, but letting them die off instead of holding them up... The fact we are so far seperated from the natural order of things only seems to pervert itself more and more...

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

Of course also consider the converse- if religion were not there to supress the despicable actions of many, were they not to fear "going to hell" one can always find some logical argument as to why a law may not apply....

I am not even really sure what you are trying to say here. Given a representaive government and well - understood legislative body, applicability of laws requires no supernatural "authorization". Our Constitution separates state and church,yet our laws do not lack validity.

Additionally, violation of laws has consequences which are secular. We try these things in the temporal plane, as opposed to the spiritual.

I don't really understand your conclusion.

As far as population control, I think we need MORE nature involved... less supporting the weak and the stupid... Not killing people off, but letting them die off instead of holding them up... The fact we are so far seperated from the natural order of things only seems to pervert itself more and more...

While I agree with you, what is the instrument that will determine who is weak? Stupid? etc.

What you seem to be calling for is a freer market, which allows a man to succeed proportional to his ability.

 

[Becoming]

I am not even really sure what you are trying to say here. Given a representaive government and well - understood legislative body, applicability of laws requires no supernatural "authorization". Our Constitution separates state and church,yet our laws do not lack validity.

Additionally, violation of laws has consequences which are secular. We try these things in the temporal plane, as opposed to the spiritual.

Here is my idea - and granted it is just speculation...

We currently have laws - and a percentage (not an insignificant portion) choose to break them... ...in addition- obviously we have no shortage of criminals or our jails would not be chock full... so I also feel that out current law/penalty system is not THAT deterring...

I contend that for much of the "masses" it is not only laws which stop them from doing wrong, but morals, feelings of guilt, etc which are imposed on them by religion...

if those religious ideas were not in place, do you not think we could likely have many more which would be unopposed to actions that would harm their fellow man...?

reasons to break laws - especially "rational" laws can be fathomed... "I needed to steal because..." "I needed to kill because...." the religious ideals are a bit harder to get around... if you act agains the law you WILL NOT get around punishment....

-sure we might see a few religious whackos out there... but I think for a majority of muslims, christians, etc - those ideas are what supresses the violence potential of most of the population....
-I think MOST palestinians are more concerned with putting food on the table and living a good life with their family than they are about killing off israelis... likewise, I feel MOST israelis would feel the same...
-however- obviously we take notice of and observe more the actions of the few who have gone to far...

Religion is the opiate of the masses....

While I agree with you, what is the instrument that will determine who is weak? Stupid? etc.

What you seem to be calling for is a freer market, which allows a man to succeed proportional to his ability.

Obviously no one is able to/has the right to make a majority of those decisions... but yes I would believe in what you would call a "freer market" to a degree, especially for more of the basic natural things we now circumvent....

As an example on the simplest end to see.... though lots of our medicine is great- should all those capabilities be used? Artificial insemination/cloning for those that can't reproduce naturally? Saving the lives of those who because of natural/genetic reasons would not survive to reproductive age? (If you can't/wouldn't reproduce, is there not a reason for it?)

If you want I will think of more examples of ways we are peverting nature which will no doubt come back and bite us in the ass....