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What works best for maintaining gains?

Clenbuterol, above all, has a strong anti-catabolic effect, which means it decreases the rate at which protein is reduced in the muscle cell, consequently causing an enlargement of muscle cells. For this reason, numerous athletes use Clenbuterol after steroid treatment to balance the resulting catabolic phase and thus obtain maximum strength and muscle mass.


Clenbuterol is a beta 2 agonist which has a limited anabolic effect during its first few days of use and afterward is normally used to fight fat. At higher doses, however, it can be catabolic to muscle and it must be cycled on a 2 week on, 2 week of basis or the beta 2 receptors that clen binds to become saturated and down regulate.

Ketotifen’s magic is that it up regulates the beta-receptors including the beta 2s that clen uses. As long as you are taking ketotifen, it will continue to clean these receptors, never allowing them to down regulate – even while on a heavy clen cycle. That means you can continue to take clen indefinitely without having to cycle off to regenerate the receptors. 2-3mg ED can up regulate even severely shut down receptors within a week.

It also means that you don’t need as much clen to get the same benefits. It seems u can take about 30-40% less clen and it be equally effective. Someone had posted that it also increases the number of receptor sites on the surface of the cell, allowing more clen to attach and perhaps this is the reason for the increased efficacy. Ketotifen also seems to lessen the sides of clen including the jitters.
 
ericahls said:
Yes clen with Ketotifen Fumarate added really does help you maintain strength and size while off.

Who carries Ketotifen? Do I need a prescription?



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Ketotifen Fumarate is an anti-inflammatory drug used in the treatment of arthritis and other ailments that cause inflammation and swelling of the joints...and yes, I am reasonably sure it is only available with a prescription and not OTC. It is the generic name of a drug called Zaditen.
 
I'de like to hear from somebody ran this between cycles. How did your body react, how did you feel, quantity, etc and did you start it with pct or right after pct.
 
pudding said:
I'de like to hear from somebody ran this between cycles. How did your body react, how did you feel, quantity, etc and did you start it with pct or right after pct.

I ran it on my last PCT and it worked great. My muscles felt hard throughout my workout and my strength seemed to be close to that of when I was on. It should be noted that I was doing a Winny only cycle prior to doing this. I have done Winny only cycles before and never felt this good during PCT as I did when incorporating the Clen and Keto.

I will becoming off a Winny, OT, and Eq cycle and try this again.

One last note: I have used Clen during PCT before but without the Keto added and I can say categorically that adding the Keto makes all the difference.
 
ericahls said:
I ran it on my last PCT and it worked great. My muscles felt hard throughout my workout and my strength seemed to be close to that of when I was on. It should be noted that I was doing a Winny only cycle prior to doing this. I have done Winny only cycles before and never felt this good during PCT as I did when incorporating the Clen and Keto.

I will becoming off a Winny, OT, and Eq cycle and try this again.

One last note: I have used Clen during PCT before but without the Keto added and I can say categorically that adding the Keto makes all the difference.
How long was cycle? how long Pct(what did you use,nolva,clomid???) along with clen and did you take any time after pct to have nothing in system or did you go right back to next cycle? Sorry to ask so many questions, but been reading about clen and want to hear real life. I'm considering this after my cycle.
 
pudding said:
How long was cycle? how long Pct(what did you use,nolva,clomid???) along with clen and did you take any time after pct to have nothing in system or did you go right back to next cycle? Sorry to ask so many questions, but been reading about clen and want to hear real life. I'm considering this after my cycle.

My Winny cycle was 8 weeks. I was on Nolva for 4 weeks and continued the Clen until my next cycle 4 weeks later. So Clen the entire time I was off Winny. I felt fine but everyone is different. The key is to listen to your body and make adjustments where needed.
 
ericahls said:
My Winny cycle was 8 weeks. I was on Nolva for 4 weeks and continued the Clen until my next cycle 4 weeks later. So Clen the entire time I was off Winny. I felt fine but everyone is different. The key is to listen to your body and make adjustments where needed.
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ericahls said:
My Winny cycle was 8 weeks. I was on Nolva for 4 weeks and continued the Clen until my next cycle 4 weeks later. So Clen the entire time I was off Winny. I felt fine but everyone is different. The key is to listen to your body and make adjustments where needed.

are they eye drops??

what form does it come in?? "Ketotifen Fumarate"

how would you take this clen... what would be an example dosage sched..??
 
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