What with sust

[LOL72]

Ok i am starting my first cycle next monday and i am wondering what i should take along with it. I am only doing sust this cycle. My goal for this cycle is to gain as much lean mass as possible. My calorie intake while on is going to be around 5000cal/ed is that good? I am 6'1" and 220lbs...bf% idk not high though. I plan on taking protein with this cycle but are there any other things i should take with this? Also like i said before i cannot seem to get ahold of clomid or nolva is there anything that you guys could recomend that i can find at a vitamin shoppe or a health store? thanx ahead of time guys.


running....(let me know if you thikn i should change this?)

weeks1-10 -- 250mg sust/once a week

 

[scout69]

For your first Cle you can probably just run the Sus by its self and see results..A Test only cycle is always a good first cycle choice

 

[LOL72]

For your first Cle you can probably just run the Sus by its self and see results..A Test only cycle is always a good first cycle choice

thanks...what about supplements someone said i should up my potassium intake is this true?

 

[LOL72]

anyone?

 

[babyhercules]

hey pal,
if you are going to do the clen with the sus check out this post by Macro, he know his shit.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6215283#post6215283

 

[LOL72]

hey pal,
if you are going to do the clen with the sus check out this post by Macro, he know his shit.

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6215283#post6215283

i wasnt planning on doing clen just the sust

 

[thelion2005]

thanks...what about supplements someone said i should up my potassium intake is this true?

I don't know your background, so it is tough to respond.
However ....
- at your size, 250mg sust ew might not need anti-e or pct.
- up your intake of grilled animal flesh and veggies
- add a whey drink
- add creatine
- add a chewable multi-vit

There is no need to add a lot of science to this cycle and take exotic supplements. Do the simple basics.

Make sure you get plenty of fluids to fight cramps.

Try to get 9 hours sleep ... 8 at night and 1 in the PM.

Sust sneaks up on you at about the 2-3 week mark. It lasts 2-3 weeks after you finish taking it.

I'd expect about 15 more pounds with a 75% retention.

 

[jmt24]

if your looking for a lean bulk, eating 5000 lean cals will be hard. id say you only need around 4000, and dont cut out the carbs. id use fitday.com and track your meals. def need pct regardless of age.

week 1:40mg novaldex, 100mg clomid
weeks 2-4:20mg noval, 50mg clom

id start this 2-3 weeks after your last shot.

other supps should be liver and kidney protectant, fish and flax seed oils, sesapure to name a few. as for potassium, its always good to take it.

 

[LOL72]

I don't know your background, so it is tough to respond.
However ....
- at your size, 250mg sust ew might not need anti-e or pct.
- up your intake of grilled animal flesh and veggies
- add a whey drink
- add creatine
- add a chewable multi-vit

There is no need to add a lot of science to this cycle and take exotic supplements. Do the simple basics.

Make sure you get plenty of fluids to fight cramps.

Try to get 9 hours sleep ... 8 at night and 1 in the PM.

Sust sneaks up on you at about the 2-3 week mark. It lasts 2-3 weeks after you finish taking it.

I'd expect about 15 more pounds with a 75% retention.

great thanks for the advice....keep it coming

 

[LOL72]

that all guys or is there anything else i should know>?

 

[maldorf]

that all guys or is there anything else i should know>?

Ive never used sust with that low a weekly dose, but I would think that doing it all in one injection would lead to uneven test bloodlevels throughout the week. That prop in there has a very short half life, so I might worry about that. I would go with 500 mg/wk in 2 weekly injections done on say Monday and Thursday.

 

[LOL72]

Ive never used sust with that low a weekly dose, but I would think that doing it all in one injection would lead to uneven test bloodlevels throughout the week. That prop in there has a very short half life, so I might worry about that. I would go with 500 mg/wk in 2 weekly injections done on say Monday and Thursday.

i was thinking of that but heres my problem i only have 10amps of sust...and that would only last me 5 weeks from wut i understand is it doesnt start working until about week 3 and then your best gains are week5 and up

 

[maldorf]

i was thinking of that but heres my problem i only have 10amps of sust...and that would only last me 5 weeks from wut i understand is it doesnt start working until about week 3 and then your best gains are week5 and up

I hate to say it, but if you only have 10 amps you should wait until you can get some more. You could start out using the 250 mg/wk and if it isnt enough you could bump it up to 500mg/wk, but if you only have 10 amps you wont be able to do that and run it long enough. I wouldnt start a cycle of sust unless I have a minimum of 20 amps or so. If you run it at 250mg/wk and the dose is too low youll end up wasting it, and if you run it at 500mg/wk it wont be run long enough. Get some more. I would also have some nolva and clomid on hand for pct just to be safe. Might even want to have some arimidex incase you have water or gyno problems. Cant be too safe.